From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-it0-f52.google.com ([209.85.214.52] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6338465 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 19:51:04 +0200 Received: by mail-it0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 72so3528589itl.5 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=gE+r+VE5KM+0lnlKlJC/qYkVqnPATqqlGVakuIFW13Q=; b=EcHjiem7gogQnoE3HD0rE23WlKwDcDEFV4YfsKysq9I+Md5kJ/0lr+5k1t/Q9kt0/R WiXXPA+jUkNvJABu76COXjCk8/7h5O0Bn9dELFRy2zzAAhozbk3hotWm2G+iTEgUCjxD lIGNy7sLA7ZSalUtAyl8/ksiuara5TTpC+rYX5Vu8jdc8rcnSmmWH6VkbEenjN6/oTFi pgMj98PseAzYY2aQ3wvbvojvJUgRQzp0mLl9w8+KEPmCD9wOIlz59CCGzjR33iQgPoS5 JZrGeoUmd/0lOEawPfrG6Te6yzWj79GQST7rUXimnC/4TneG2QUTzKKW7aGLw5ml4pfv 3DZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=gE+r+VE5KM+0lnlKlJC/qYkVqnPATqqlGVakuIFW13Q=; b=GppfYuOsGt5NfqYr3Sa8+GSulUo+rdkdXwqNxOrMkaKzvOmQB5vGsKqubLZBfQSKoO JdAHXyPbjXxGot7BzfysiIWcAdOiJmxAxdugYfhEWGaFTEggpog0eZUMUUKQtOabkroO yxe+9eRXJzWbKEY6Be7jgXhrglRV4b9VKcb0xnkWUplalIsQEW4yTnGNU6UPiqBeyQJ+ 5QEq+XNW6i+HdJjhd+rx9veELaZ+X0efvGSIy2Ei9cvVdV5WVoTuMvs9bU+A9pcSXQHa U3KFPWv1RMqY4FVy1FPBbTmTjHZAyiYzLcBHtnUMptdUtZM+h7a3Hj9Iy6Kp5SWY1A40 KpPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaX853xrcKuek9tbN+y1HFWWh3I4P7qTGVHZEyxtCYL4xiKVDzie VBs3424HD6OqRTO54yeCbww59AbzUEQOUuRmUCQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RanTs/us97VC1bvqHatmMTzPLu0oquVS0aiSfnIU5FyiEoqHWHWfih7Ge7XZ4Quqc8ohGCVZDckQFOvyORQH8= X-Received: by 10.36.189.130 with SMTP id x124mr2526081ite.27.1508262800145; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:53:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 17:53:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] a question to illustrator users on AE To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c19e4426e54c2055bc1cc2e" --94eb2c19e4426e54c2055bc1cc2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks for the tips R.K and all. I noticed the jittering with fonts but not so much with vector illustrations... and especially with small movements. Robert, do you have more information resources about the 4 stages of antialiasing? On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 at 0:26 Robert Kjettrup wrote: > The continuous rasterize uses the old illustrator antialiasing that is > quite bad for animation, it only has somehthing like 4 steps of graduations > in antialiased values. > You can see it by having some lines in an illustrator file that is near > but not exactly horisontal or vertical. > > Converting the illustrator to an AE shape layer and you will get much > smoother antialiasing, but ofcourse that is not always possible if the > illstrator file is a bit more complex and uses gradients or some of the > newer functions of illustrator. > > Shape layers if set to a 3d also have some issues with shimmering with > small slow movement, and here the solution is either as you suggest, force > it to be a raster layer by precomping it without using continious rasterize > on that precomp, or if you need to keep the shape layer in the 3d comp, use > the CC Force Motion Blur effect with a very high Shutter Angle so the > shimmering will be smoothed out. > > Robert > > > 2017-10-16 17:13 GMT+02:00 mike cardeiro : > >> One thing I've noticed over the years is, if I take illustrator artwork >> and set it to continuously rasterise. if I do any movement on it I will >> get a jitter on the edges. >> >> to solve this. I set it the layer to continuously raster. scale it up >> way bigger than I'll ever need it. precomp it and scale down the precomped >> layer to the size you want and do the move on that and you will end the >> jitters. >> >> I know it wasn't exactly what you asked, but it's something that drove me >> nuts for years. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Roei Tzoref >> *To:* After Effects Mail List >> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 1:14 AM >> *Subject:* [AE] a question to illustrator users on AE >> >> 1. do you use the HDTV presets to avoid cropping? (if the layer is also >> outside of the canvas size) or do you just add another artboard that's a >> little bigger? >> >> 2. have you found that the size of the second artboard in the HTDV preset >> of 14400x14400 makes a difference if it's that exact size that's created >> when you choose the preset? or do you just make your own second artboard? >> considering the fact that the second artboard in the HDTV preset is placed >> on half pixel and requires fixing everytime to avoid resampling of layers >> and antialiasing... >> >> the Meyers (Hi there if you are tuning in... ) in their tutorial here >> explain the issue: >> https://www.lynda.com/After-Effects-tutorials/Illustrator-artboards/372438/497652-4.html, >> but they also mention that the 2nd artboard 14400x14400 is a "magic size" >> is essential. "The second artboard must be this size to trigger After >> Effects into not cropping off layers." I have not found it to be the case >> in my Ae versions since CS6. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --94eb2c19e4426e54c2055bc1cc2e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the tips R.K and all. I noticed the jitte= ring with fonts but not so much with vector illustrations... and especially= with small movements. Robert, do you have more information resources about= the 4 stages of antialiasing?=C2=A0

On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 at 0:26 Robert Kjettrup <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
The=C2=A0continuous rasterize uses the old illustrator an= tialiasing that is quite bad for animation, it only has somehthing like 4 s= teps of graduations in antialiased values.=C2=A0
You can see it by having = some lines in an illustrator file that is near but not exactly horisontal o= r vertical.

Converting the i= llustrator to an AE shape layer and you will get much smoother antialiasing= , but ofcourse that is not always possible if the illstrator file is a bit = more complex and uses gradients or some of the newer functions of illustrat= or.

Shape layers if set to a 3d also have some issues with shimmering with = small slow movement, and here the solution is either as you suggest, force = it to be a raster layer by precomping it without using continious rasterize= on that precomp, or if you need to keep the shape layer in the 3d comp, us= e the CC Force Motion Blur effect with a very high Shutter Angle so the shi= mmering will be smoothed out.

Robert


2017-10-16 17:13 GMT+02:00 mike cardeiro <AE-List@media-motio= n.tv>:
One thing I've noticed over the years is, if I take illustrator artw= ork and set it to continuously rasterise.=C2=A0 if I do any movement on it = I will get a jitter on the edges.

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to solve this.=C2=A0 I set= it the layer to continuously raster.=C2=A0 scale it up way bigger than I&#= 39;ll ever need it.=C2=A0 precomp it and scale down the precomped layer to = the size you want and do the move on that and you will end the jitters.

I know it wasn't exactly what you asked, but it's somet= hing that drove me nuts for years.


From: Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= ;
To: After Effect= s Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 1:14 AM
Subject: [AE] a question to illustrator us= ers on AE

1. do y= ou use the HDTV presets to avoid cropping? (if the layer is also outside of= the canvas size) or do you just add another artboard that's a little b= igger?=C2=A0

2. have you found that t= he size of the second artboard in the HTDV preset of 14400x14400 makes a di= fference if it's that exact size that's created when you choose the= preset? or do you just make your own second artboard? considering the fact= that the second artboard in the HDTV preset is placed on half pixel and re= quires fixing everytime to avoid resampling of layers and antialiasing...

the Meyers (Hi there if you are tuning= in... ) in their tutorial here explain the issue: https://www.lynda.com/Aft= er-Effects-tutorials/Illustrator-artboards/372438/497652-4.html, but th= ey also mention that the 2nd artboard 14400x14400 is a "magic size&quo= t; is essential. "The second artboard must be this size to trigger Aft= er Effects into not cropping off layers." I have not found it to be th= e case in my Ae versions since CS6.

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