From: "Steve Oakley" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
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Subject: Re: [AE] Monitor Recommendations
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:23:25 -0500
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I=E2=80=99ve got dual dell 27=E2=80=9D 4K=E2=80=99s and they are =
accurate enough, especially for the price. sRGB and 709 are basically =
the same color space, different gamma - 2.2 vs 2.4.  easy enough to =
adjust. you can always try to calibrate a monitor to a specific color =
space and gamma. don=E2=80=99t waste your money on the low end data =
color spyders.

I=E2=80=99d run GUI monitor in same color space as output. it makes life =
a lot simpler knowing you are working with the basic same look as your =
output target.

if money is less an object I=E2=80=99d look at P3 / 2020 color space =
monitors with high brightness. I=E2=80=99m still trying to figure out =
what HDR *really* means vs the hype of what its supposed to be. same =
data range, just more brightness and better monitor gamma for more hi =
light rendition. seems to be a seriously moving target akin to cheap bad =
consumer CRT TVs vs a =E2=80=9Cbroadcast=E2=80=9D model in terms of what =
is a decent reference screen.  FWIW i have an atomos sumo 19 for field =
use but I=E2=80=99ve been thinking about adding it to the editing setup. =
realistically I=E2=80=99d like to have something 42-55=E2=80=9D =
instead...

S

> On Oct 21, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Robert W. Walker =
<AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
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> I am definitely looking at BenQ. The PV270. Choking a little on the =
$900
> price tag...but as someone once said "I've never regretted getting a
> bigger hard drive, more RAM, or a finer display."
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> Which model BenQ do you have, Robert?
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> My shortlist is:
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> BenQ PV270
> Dell U2717D
> Samsung S27H850QFN (love these naming conventions)
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> Robert W. Walker
> WalkerSound
> Walker/Fitzgibbon TV & Film
> Los Angeles CA USA
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>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [AE] Monitor Recommendations
>> From: "Robert Kjettrup" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>> Date: Sat, October 21, 2017 4:44 pm
>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>>=20
>>=20
>> I would say that don't skimp on the monitor, its what your eyes are =
on for
>> probably way too long each day.
>>=20
>> I went for the Technicolour certified Benq and like it very much, but =
at
>> first I wasn't so sure about it since it ghosted pretty badly  with =
default
>> settings. untill I found the quite hidden overdrive setting that was =
the
>> cause of this, disabling that and its very nice.
>> Just a tip if anyone are looking at the Benq
>>=20
>> Den 21. okt. 2017 10.26 PM skrev "Roei Tzoref" =
<AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
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>>> I wanted a dreamcolor last time after I tried this list. bought it, =
then
>>> days before it was here I asked for a refund! the messenger actually =
came
>>> with the monitor eventually but the I got the money back and =
returned it.
>>> the reason was I was so caught up on some bad reviews and also still =
could
>>> not decide in sRGB or wide gamut dilemma (which to choose) and =
should I go
>>> for high end monitor like NEC or EIZO... eventually got cold feet. I =
just
>>> said my next monitor will be sRGB and I don't care. I think I am =
going to
>>> go for Dell. eventually I am still with my very old dell monitor and =
didn't
>>> buy anything.
>>>=20
>>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Robert W. Walker <
>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
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>>>> It's such a crapshoot. I wish I could try-before-buy.
>>>>=20
>>>> My dilemma is: spend ~500 on say Ultrasharp and maybe be =
disappointed --
>>>> or spend 900 on BenQ PV270 and maybe feel like I overkilled.  I =
want a
>>>> solid color-accurate monitor even though it's "only" for the GUI
>>>> (separate DreamColor is the grading monitor). But if the PV270 =
blows the
>>>> DreamColor away it could become the primary grading monitor. But =
then
>>>> I'd be using a $1k DreamColor for GUI, what a waste... on and on, =
the
>>>> buyer's dilemma.
>>>>=20
>>>> Robert W. Walker
>>>> WalkerSound
>>>> Walker/Fitzgibbon TV & Film
>>>> Los Angeles CA USA
>>>>=20
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AE] Monitor Recommendations
>>>>> From: "Chris Zwar" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>>>>> Date: Sat, October 21, 2017 8:19 am
>>>>> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Most of the monitors we use are Dells, in the ultrasharp range.  =
They
>>>> actually upgraded me to a new 4K monitor the other day and then =
realised
>>>> the graphics card in my machine couldn=E2=80=99t run it, so it went =
away again.
>>>>> I have no idea how they compare to anything else but I can only =
suggest
>>>> that you include the price of a calibrator, such as an xrite =
i-display pro,
>>>> into your overall budget.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -Chris
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 21 Oct 2017, at 4:53 am, Craig Hemming =
<AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I know Monitors has been the subject of many threads over time =
=E2=80=93=E2=80=93 but
>>>> when I=E2=80=99m not in the market I tend not pay very close =
attention.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> But Today: my trusty old 24=E2=80=9D Apply display used as a =
secondary
>>>> monitor where I preview After Effects sequences has begun to grow =
dim. It=E2=80=99s
>>>> about 8 years old, so I think a replacement is due.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Usage:
>>>>>> =E2=80=A2 A loaded up late 2015 iMac (32 GB RAM =E2=80=A2 1 TB =
SSD =E2=80=A2 MD Radeon R9
>>>> M395X 4096 MB =E2=80=A2 RAID etc.)
>>>>>> =E2=80=A2 Connected via Thunderbolt2, through an OWC breakout box
>>>>>> =E2=80=A2 Used for After Effects Previews (have my timeline and =
frequently
>>>> used windows on the built-in 27=E2=80=9D 5K display)
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>>>>>> I=E2=80=99m thinking I=E2=80=99d like 27=E2=80=9D or larger. Not =
looking for a bargain brand
>>>> but on the other hand, I=E2=80=99m not doing 4K deliveries either. =
Non broadcast,
>>>> HD, corporate.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Sharing of suggestions / experiences (good and bad) would be much
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>> =
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>>>>>> Craig Hemming
>>>>>> carter craig sales & marketing
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