From: "Carey Dissmore" Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6341972 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 00:57:08 +0200 Received: by mail-io0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 97so18284120iok.7 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:59:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imugonline-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=E8quw2niDax30yZmaLMXO82MyGf6T7MOookTygpXSG4=; b=tvihRJcb8ouYYNljgNZaXwD5rLFXCyPAWfrkoBwUQF8mrhg7CdvGjFgeuNCu58h1rN FO3ESIg0UhESOteczmHHUqO2Kug79jle5jnEsvilRmpxUwGtcltyXRNYICIUM+OntMZS eX+PjcP82VvB6gWPVQ29GZcaSxw6RPMT+po2hG5oZ45P9vvy84tXE4/f2MUXKKlGGQc7 ZXYLpw8epGBMqLF6mHuOmv1sAB2B9j+OGlW5bRyBBL+Ql+DZ8UgVvMRuZGZQMcMIEpDf bPHonGCvwg/hvntbJvKS9h5Ru6QH33DcGPhjI5S9daGLS6ujAwoQ+bnFnvkGtvhDZ1BY XWRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=E8quw2niDax30yZmaLMXO82MyGf6T7MOookTygpXSG4=; b=kScSt5+lXBhrrTRqvPYlcAkkVsUTeYm2yq10ZJSzRYwbITO7BLBz3EMW9t4612F2I5 lNqZRlvsQzmcuq0WxG8HoykMbJhw5P584VFjbrnyJd7hW4Nx96sfEvlgAyTHwjJqANRX BSW0KoLR6IVeYUmAFtgvmZYauWbQZgDTC5KB3sxaMvV7+Hw+YpgiCsNG+EZvNQ6idzWs oCq/XXJrby1jpuoGUnXNPTccs11uOJ3/o2gTn44jS2iaTlg5vDQMoklVAHTG6SQ5I3Cb jB7V/YiiOQulGadyiDoTtus4xGtr6q5myiv9k8AFCyTweMRoznMK5NnwLAj0QKC/LUfM udLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXDJLi0jZmPWm0o0tRrTpM5jnM08f5giTQsnL2a0JODn1yt+PV9 1OHMP0Lv8hYZEyWhoc/U1y9Bjp1NtoA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SnkWrjQ6lfQKP3GZbAxeL6dmuSQbI8O5DFtLRBH/GMpZJoSuv4UsBHTbI+sS9VsQnAsP3EtQ== X-Received: by 10.107.143.20 with SMTP id r20mr14774974iod.205.1508713174542; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.84] (c-24-118-189-141.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [24.118.189.141]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o192sm1803699itc.27.2017.10.22.15.59.33 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0ED9B0AC-9170-4F73-B332-3C6D4868F343" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Monitor Recommendations Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:59:31 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <81C6FAA2-ACB5-4AF3-8A74-E4231B896643@imugonline.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) --Apple-Mail=_0ED9B0AC-9170-4F73-B332-3C6D4868F343 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Outboard video preview via SDI is the way to go, IMHO. Then you don=E2=80=99= t have to sweat the accuracy of your GUI so much.=20 I=E2=80=99m a Flanders guy. Carey > On Oct 21, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Roei Tzoref = wrote: >=20 > I wanted a dreamcolor last time after I tried this list. bought it, = then days before it was here I asked for a refund! the messenger = actually came with the monitor eventually but the I got the money back = and returned it. the reason was I was so caught up on some bad reviews = and also still could not decide in sRGB or wide gamut dilemma (which to = choose) and should I go for high end monitor like NEC or EIZO... = eventually got cold feet. I just said my next monitor will be sRGB and I = don't care. I think I am going to go for Dell. eventually I am still = with my very old dell monitor and didn't buy anything.=20 >=20 > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Robert W. Walker = > wrote: > It's such a crapshoot. I wish I could try-before-buy. >=20 > My dilemma is: spend ~500 on say Ultrasharp and maybe be disappointed = -- > or spend 900 on BenQ PV270 and maybe feel like I overkilled. I want a > solid color-accurate monitor even though it's "only" for the GUI > (separate DreamColor is the grading monitor). But if the PV270 blows = the > DreamColor away it could become the primary grading monitor. But then > I'd be using a $1k DreamColor for GUI, what a waste... on and on, the > buyer's dilemma. >=20 > Robert W. Walker > WalkerSound > Walker/Fitzgibbon TV & Film > Los Angeles CA USA >=20 > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [AE] Monitor Recommendations > > From: "Chris Zwar" > > > Date: Sat, October 21, 2017 8:19 am > > To: "After Effects Mail List" > > > > > > > Most of the monitors we use are Dells, in the ultrasharp range. = They actually upgraded me to a new 4K monitor the other day and then = realised the graphics card in my machine couldn=E2=80=99t run it, so it = went away again. > > I have no idea how they compare to anything else but I can only = suggest that you include the price of a calibrator, such as an xrite = i-display pro, into your overall budget. > > > > -Chris > > > > > On 21 Oct 2017, at 4:53 am, Craig Hemming > wrote: > > > > > > I know Monitors has been the subject of many threads over time = =E2=80=93=E2=80=93 but when I=E2=80=99m not in the market I tend not pay = very close attention. > > > > > > But Today: my trusty old 24=E2=80=9D Apply display used as a = secondary monitor where I preview After Effects sequences has begun to = grow dim. It=E2=80=99s about 8 years old, so I think a replacement is = due. > > > > > > Usage: > > > =E2=80=A2 A loaded up late 2015 iMac (32 GB RAM =E2=80=A2 1 TB SSD = =E2=80=A2 MD Radeon R9 M395X 4096 MB =E2=80=A2 RAID etc.) > > > =E2=80=A2 Connected via Thunderbolt2, through an OWC breakout box > > > =E2=80=A2 Used for After Effects Previews (have my timeline and = frequently used windows on the built-in 27=E2=80=9D 5K display) > > > > > > I=E2=80=99m thinking I=E2=80=99d like 27=E2=80=9D or larger. Not = looking for a bargain brand but on the other hand, I=E2=80=99m not doing = 4K deliveries either. Non broadcast, HD, corporate. > > > > > > Sharing of suggestions / experiences (good and bad) would be much = appreciated. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Craig > > > = =E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2= =80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80= =93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93 > > > Craig Hemming > > > carter craig sales & marketing > > > 905-635-1127 | Toll Free 1-800-869-7351 > > > cartercraig.com > > > > > > > >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0ED9B0AC-9170-4F73-B332-3C6D4868F343 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Outboard video preview via SDI is the way to go, IMHO. Then = you don=E2=80=99t have to sweat the accuracy of your GUI so = much. 
I=E2=80=99m a Flanders guy.

Carey

On Oct 21, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I wanted a dreamcolor last time after I tried this list. = bought it, then days before it was here I asked for a refund! the = messenger actually came with the monitor eventually but the I got the = money back and returned it. the reason was I was so caught up on some = bad reviews and also still could not decide in sRGB or wide gamut = dilemma (which to choose) and should I go for high end monitor like NEC = or EIZO... eventually got cold feet. I just said my next monitor will be = sRGB and I don't care. I think I am going to go for Dell. eventually I = am still with my very old dell monitor and didn't buy = anything. 

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Robert W. Walker = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
It's such a crapshoot. = I wish I could try-before-buy.

My dilemma is: spend ~500 on say Ultrasharp and maybe be disappointed = --
or spend 900 on BenQ PV270 and maybe feel like I overkilled.  I = want a
solid color-accurate monitor even though it's "only" for the GUI
(separate DreamColor is the grading monitor). But if the PV270 blows = the
DreamColor away it could become the primary grading monitor. But then
I'd be using a $1k DreamColor for GUI, what a waste... on and on, the
buyer's dilemma.

Robert W. Walker
WalkerSound
Walker/Fitzgibbon TV & Film
Los Angeles CA USA

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [AE] Monitor Recommendations
> From: "Chris Zwar" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
> Date: Sat, October 21, 2017 8:19 am
> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>
>
> Most of the monitors we use are Dells, in the ultrasharp = range.  They actually upgraded me to a new 4K monitor the other day = and then realised the graphics card in my machine couldn=E2=80=99t run = it, so it went away again.
> I have no idea how they compare to anything else but I can only = suggest that you include the price of a calibrator, such as an xrite = i-display pro, into your overall budget.
>
> -Chris
>
> > On 21 Oct 2017, at 4:53 am, Craig Hemming <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
> >
> > I know Monitors has been the subject of many threads over time = =E2=80=93=E2=80=93 but when I=E2=80=99m not in the market I tend not pay = very close attention.
> >
> > But Today: my trusty old 24=E2=80=9D Apply display used as a = secondary monitor where I preview After Effects sequences has begun to = grow dim. It=E2=80=99s about 8 years old, so I think a replacement is = due.
> >
> > Usage:
> > =E2=80=A2 A loaded up late 2015 iMac (32 GB RAM =E2=80=A2 1 TB = SSD =E2=80=A2 MD Radeon R9 M395X 4096 MB =E2=80=A2 RAID etc.)
> > =E2=80=A2 Connected via Thunderbolt2, through an OWC breakout = box
> > =E2=80=A2 Used for After Effects Previews (have my timeline = and frequently used windows on the built-in 27=E2=80=9D 5K display)
> >
> > I=E2=80=99m thinking I=E2=80=99d like 27=E2=80=9D or larger. = Not looking for a bargain brand but on the other hand, I=E2=80=99m not = doing 4K deliveries either. Non broadcast, HD, corporate.
> >
> > Sharing of suggestions / experiences (good and bad) would be = much appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Craig
> > = =E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2= =80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80= =93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93=E2=80=93
> > Craig Hemming
> > carter craig sales & marketing
> > 905-635-1127 | Toll Free 1-800-869-7351
> > cartercraig.com = <http://cartercraig.com/>
> >
> >

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