From: "Steve Oakley" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
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Subject: Re: [AE] Pr CC 2018 not ready for prime time
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:24:43 -0500
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Having just gone thru 2 projects in PP 2018 :

its much more stable than 2015 and 2017. twice I had my project go into =
Media Pending. generally thats death for a project. I have projects that =
have been open in 2015 or 2017 that simply never put the media online, =
or keep it online for more than a few hours before failing again.

2018 actually recovers from media pending. it will beachball and you =
just have to let it go until icons in the bins start to populate. =
possibly toggling bin view or between bins may trip some deep code to =
fire off forcing media relink and what ever intern house keeping is =
required to put the media back online in the project. which ever way, =
thats a big return to stability, although it simply shouldn=E2=80=99t =
happen in the first place.

2 random system freeze ups. no user UI input works. apps are running, =
will respond to say, MIDI usb music keyboard, but normal keyboard and =
mouse clicks are dead. power down.

mouse cursor disappears when using dual monitor setup. click on finder, =
then back to PP to get cursor back. then cursor comes and goes in some =
what random intervals. there is an active mouse cursor point which will =
do things, just no cursor being drawn.

subclips have returned from the dead. a nasty bad =E2=80=9Cfeature=E2=80=9D=
 quite a few versions back, it was replaced with the "clip is just a =
clip" behavior. so if you edit from your source clip into the TL, each =
clip in the TL is its own independent thing. I think thats what most =
folks expect and prefer.=20

Instead with subclips being back there are multiple ways this can burn =
you - like you apply filter to =E2=80=9Cmaster=E2=80=9D clip which now =
applies to subclips, except the subclips don=E2=80=99t display the =
master clip=E2=80=99s filter. world of potential hurt here, especially =
for the inexperienced. not sure if this is a bug, or returned =
=E2=80=9Cfeature=E2=80=9D but its certainly a big problem. no apparent =
way to turn this bad behavior off. it was making me crazy a edits to say =
the least. So this is one bug / feature that means I just can=E2=80=99t =
use the product, too many problems it creates.

place a 4K clip into 1080 TL and scale it to 50% so its full frame in =
the TL. double click into source window. now it displays zoomed in 50% - =
basically center crop 1080 of 4K original image. UGH!

I hacked my way thru 2 projects this week, but it was frustrating.

S

> On Oct 27, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> =
wrote:
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> My pleasure, friends.
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> This is also bizarre and possibly coincidental, but my mouse right =
click stopped working after I started running Ae and Pr CC 18.  Now that =
I=E2=80=99m back on CC 17, it=E2=80=99s working again.
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> This is on OSX 10.11.6.
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> And on my MBP Retina that=E2=80=99s running Sierra, I get a series of =
errors (four or six in a row) when launching Ae CC 2018: =
=E2=80=9CMTLCompilerService quit unexpectedly.=E2=80=9D I click OK on =
all of them, and Ae will launch and function.  I uninstalled and =
reinstalled, and I still get those error screens.
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