From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pf0-f170.google.com ([209.85.192.170] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6351513 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 06 Nov 2017 23:23:15 +0100 Received: by mail-pf0-f170.google.com with SMTP id z11so8787371pfk.4 for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2017 14:26:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=hnF6mpSLhParQouB6k58ZExjilBuawZJVWzM+7qU0AI=; b=REHTjjFBImPiffjvCrHu5y2Y4Z5KQcDp7trunR4kvYOuNPIrpm9cUcVRL1evTBTaE6 lHKo7+2u0BttpYgPXSeVMTWQu6vlw/2n+gMPvZVS3lO9JgPh2sLbIKzDOpM6z50XJy/8 +pOBZF7hyTJ+/H9sSfRV+K7MslJUip2aQUwyQE81W9N52Mky7cq+LaXPgVekeqpF8vZI nU93T5gTz0TSXlw3CR2YxC28Rft3DExKt28YF/FCUV+5t32YM/jZOvvMnIyZ3cP+x2tf NXIKnk1a8kKMspJYA8NqZbjfJiUeYTjSrepztGcH4tqesEocvfT9ywBhGVLCmTgGY3xQ mU5g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :references:to:in-reply-to; bh=hnF6mpSLhParQouB6k58ZExjilBuawZJVWzM+7qU0AI=; b=Uke0MIpnQ5lspGxyMLco4O5w8QdV+4vfpYlsa2Ro7w3jI1FYemgrRB37RnMUoCPh1c lgGI4hjIt5zYjIlh5UAI3NMVaInWxi612bVN3X1Gg/18sk7gFC4cche0D9GOTqgzzNsz iGmxcXf4DmtdFrJnVHCTF/tJ/BZ9WoGhlVr6O6oLRFTa2zBSkkcbwdy1fTLieOYw+aTB JlzgdLQenycBAG/kRgLWq8EWDI4X48cekMvmtphhTItHGAr3qR1wA/9T+erDVUAVSs8I UP72z8+lkP6G4vW1lRMAP4cqtUduHOKGPPULCg5KgdKa8U2I/ZVzLcG7iCfDDTlZCw9V NYHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaV+MRi6CWKXfw+VldHKGTlCODmFIj3MYnFy+VZpsMXda9mmc7pz KoUvoyQIJyi3ZaslS6IjeP1ZSfyAn0k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+T3ri1e0bPlMwf/DkyzF+FZQ5iV9y04LzECJh+QUu+rJ1a4gZsrvP1LbRsjdbZ/zOOgEUoIBw== X-Received: by 10.159.204.146 with SMTP id t18mr15942357plo.70.1510007171095; Mon, 06 Nov 2017 14:26:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.133] (7.130.233.220.static.exetel.com.au. [220.233.130.7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z6sm24327085pfe.170.2017.11.06.14.26.08 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Nov 2017 14:26:10 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E3C4487D-8610-4E3E-B845-789EF18B077B" Message-Id: <4E814F55-1D93-4960-AAF1-A325484E2AF4@chriszwar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Creating swf from After Effects Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 09:26:07 +1100 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) --Apple-Mail=_E3C4487D-8610-4E3E-B845-789EF18B077B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks, this is all useful information. - I am baking the expression to help ensure the swf works, not because = of any issue with After Effects CS6. The expression I am using is a = simple .sampleImage that sets the opacity of each layer to the greyscale = value of a separate image sequence. I don=E2=80=99t know if the swf = format can handle this, so it=E2=80=99s easiest to bake the opacity = keyframes and reduce the project down so it=E2=80=99s nothing but = solids. I am doing as much as possible in CC 2017 because the interface = can handle all the layers, while earlier versions of AE struggled with = several hundred layers. The application will render them, but the UI = bugs out. - Thanks Lloyd, but I was able cobble something together pretty quick. = The problem is that it=E2=80=99s easy to select all layers, but for the = =E2=80=9Cconvert expressions to keyframes=E2=80=9D option to work you = have to select the individual properties - in my case the Opacity of = each layer. I haven=E2=80=99t looked for a keyboard shortcut but I = actually don=E2=80=99t know how to "select all" for an individual = property of a layer - is that possible? Would love to know how. I = normally do it by dragging with the mouse, but once again the UI = struggles with more than a couple hundred layers. - I don=E2=80=99t know about the specific hardware that is playing this = back. They have sent us an example .swf and they have specifically told = us they can=E2=80=99t play mp4s, but beyond that I don=E2=80=99t know. = The example swf is 16 minutes long and only 1.5meg, so that=E2=80=99s = another reason I wanted to try and get a vector output and not embed = video. - but I will look at what options there are for embedding flv or other = video - thanks for the suggestion. I haven=E2=80=99t worked with swf = before=E2=80=A6 -Chris > On 7 Nov 2017, at 5:55 am, Py Fave wrote: >=20 > what is the software/hardware involved in playback? > you could put a sequence of png in a swf container, too. >=20 > or encode as .flv sorenson vp2 if i remember correctly. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > 2017-11-06 13:47 GMT+01:00 Roei Tzoref >: > question: why would you need to bake to expression if you are going = all the way back to CS6? what js code is available in CC2017 are not in = CS6? >=20 > On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Chris Zwar > wrote: > Thanks, I=E2=80=99ll look into that. >=20 > So far I have discovered that CS 6 can export an swf. I can reduce my = project so there is nothing in it but some solids so I think the export = should work. It=E2=80=99s a pain back-saving from 2017 to CS 6 but at = least it=E2=80=99s possible. >=20 > The problem I have is that I have an expression driving the opacity of = each layer, and I am assuming I will need to convert the expressions to = keyframes before I export. With 10 minutes of animation and 800+ layers = this is going to take some time. You can=E2=80=99t feasibly select 800 = layers in CC 2014 and earlier, a small reminder of some of the = improvements over the years, so I=E2=80=99m doing as much as I can in = 2017 before back-saving a heavily reduced project to CS 6. Fun & games! >=20 > I might have to script it and leave it over a weekend=E2=80=A6 >=20 > > On 6 Nov 2017, at 4:30 pm, Robert Davidson > wrote: > > > > It=E2=80=99s been a long while since I did this in AE. > > Might be easier to render an mp4 and convert to swf with a converter = like =E2=80=98Wondershare Video converter Pro=E2=80=9D > > > > Cheers, Rob > > > >> On 6 Nov 2017, at 3:20 pm, Chris Zwar > wrote: > >> > >> So here=E2=80=99s a first for me, after working on an animation for = several days I=E2=80=99ve just been told the only format they can play = back is swf. I=E2=80=99m actually creating patterns for a lighting = show, and the file is going to some type of lighting desk console. I = have no idea what, but it isn=E2=80=99t like it=E2=80=99s going to be = played on a desktop PC. > >> > >> So considering that I=E2=80=99ve been working in CC 2017, what = options do I have? The good news (if any) is that the animation is just = white solids on a black background, and I know that at some stage in the = past AE could export a swf for vector images, which my animation is. = However I=E2=80=99m not sure if I can back-save far enough to the last = version of AE that still did this - I can=E2=80=99t remember when the = SWF feature was removed from AE. > >> > >> Any suggestions? > >> > >> -Chris > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> +---End of message---+ > >> To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_E3C4487D-8610-4E3E-B845-789EF18B077B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks, this is all useful information.

- I am baking the expression to help = ensure the swf works, not because of any issue with After Effects CS6. =  The expression I am using is a simple .sampleImage that sets the = opacity of each layer to the greyscale value of a separate image = sequence.  I don=E2=80=99t know if the swf format can handle this, = so it=E2=80=99s easiest to bake the opacity keyframes and reduce the = project down so it=E2=80=99s nothing but solids.  I am doing as = much as possible in CC 2017 because the interface can handle all the = layers, while earlier versions of AE struggled with several hundred = layers.  The application will render them, but the UI bugs = out.

- Thanks = Lloyd, but I was able cobble something together pretty quick.  The = problem is that it=E2=80=99s easy to select all layers, but for the = =E2=80=9Cconvert expressions to keyframes=E2=80=9D option to work you = have to select the individual properties - in my case the Opacity of = each layer.  I haven=E2=80=99t looked for a keyboard shortcut but I = actually don=E2=80=99t know how to "select all" for an individual = property of a layer - is that possible?  Would love to know how. =  I normally do it by dragging with the mouse, but once again the UI = struggles with more than a couple hundred layers.
- I don=E2=80=99t know about the = specific hardware that is playing this back.  They have sent us an = example .swf and they have specifically told us they can=E2=80=99t play = mp4s, but beyond that I don=E2=80=99t know.  The example swf is 16 = minutes long and only 1.5meg, so that=E2=80=99s another reason I wanted = to try and get a vector output and not embed video.

- but I will look at = what options there are for embedding flv or other video - thanks for the = suggestion.  I haven=E2=80=99t worked with swf before=E2=80=A6
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-Chris


On = 7 Nov 2017, at 5:55 am, Py Fave <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

what is the software/hardware = involved in playback?
you could put a sequence of = png in a swf container, too.

or = encode as .flv sorenson vp2 if i remember correctly.




2017-11-06= 13:47 GMT+01:00 Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
question: why would you need to bake to expression if you are = going all the way back to CS6? what js code is available in CC2017 are = not in CS6?

On Mon, = Nov 6, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Thanks, I=E2=80=99ll = look into that.

So far I have discovered that CS 6 can export an swf.  I can reduce = my project so there is nothing in it but some solids so I think the = export should work.  It=E2=80=99s a pain back-saving from 2017 to = CS 6 but at least it=E2=80=99s possible.

The problem I have is that I have an expression driving the opacity of = each layer, and I am assuming I will need to convert the expressions to = keyframes before I export.  With 10 minutes of animation and 800+ = layers this is going to take some time.  You can=E2=80=99t feasibly = select 800 layers in CC 2014 and earlier, a small reminder of some of = the improvements over the years, so I=E2=80=99m doing as much as I can = in 2017 before back-saving a heavily reduced project to CS 6.  Fun = & games!

I might have to script it and leave it over a weekend=E2=80=A6

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 4:30 pm, Robert Davidson <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> It=E2=80=99s been a long while since I did this in AE.
= > Might be easier to render an mp4 and convert to swf with a = converter like =E2=80=98Wondershare Video converter Pro=E2=80=9D
>
> Cheers, Rob
>
>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 3:20 pm, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>>
>> So here=E2=80=99s a first for me, after working on an animation = for several days I=E2=80=99ve just been told the only format they can = play back is swf.  I=E2=80=99m actually creating patterns for a = lighting show, and the file is going to some type of lighting desk = console.  I have no idea what, but it isn=E2=80=99t like it=E2=80=99s= going to be played on a desktop PC.
>>
>> So considering that I=E2=80=99ve been working in CC 2017, what = options do I have?  The good news (if any) is that the animation is = just white solids on a black background, and I know that at some stage = in the past AE could export a swf for vector images, which my animation = is.  However I=E2=80=99m not sure if I can back-save far enough to = the last version of AE that still did this - I can=E2=80=99t remember = when the SWF feature was removed from AE.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>>
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