From: "Zack Lovatt" Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6351551 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 02:42:03 +0100 Received: by mail-oi0-f44.google.com with SMTP id h200so9065052oib.4 for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:45:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zacklovatt-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=A8vB7+UC3B+APf7WYSltm0FAE3O8PZDCB3gbfp5xvWU=; b=DuZLVbdwUw3iGNNAd3C48fwWR4DAXDo81Hrrt+Ik3r/KNoYEgPx15v6mS4sJi6GNkH NTqEi/90z2d25yX9pLvIIfxrL7s6VJUEpapJHE8Ctd287Cp4T9yqbe0QOEbePMEQ6jfJ j+ylV97tlGM7ZCw4bNwmeb9RJG4qhdW6P0Se/gmAGV0rpk4LAE7NJbrh8OGpXNG22uA8 JIvlLi32YgpMHik4vOvL/KaDyiC89zLdkCf2lYrI43VoIG1sWgECKbEV0fhjCiNN5azU /CdSOuIC9OeWUS46ZWW0V0CNAoJWCWc4J//A8qDmjsfcodAKA3RYw7p8WhBIwZySbpFv EDuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=A8vB7+UC3B+APf7WYSltm0FAE3O8PZDCB3gbfp5xvWU=; b=pqZ0W4kZOokowInlbGllST2dBeScJzfD1Hkitu71RFksxwQgykJkjBSqEQDf8U8kRn 58x9nv0570q8mAfPAhfJ/IFkBmhhfFsxRbXr+VlW0EQCgSW+gDZ/+6e9ou+3CFHw7iD4 CRdtLsWV44L1U44qnNqJY+4WoevJjt3OWOeNqArdWGgH4+IiaOhtgdLBeq9QT6NNIjU5 A3U11LEA/FHy+qhI4SK61jB6I2efc8trmOVEr51Z+jhf4Uueln10tVRn7z7BIz7XByRc OsZ5dAaypOBNs1Owshx9yf8UPfCvWOq6XG7w1cRYd2zHe/B+wT8pK6RzqpmDtnnJc1sl HeIw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUhq0TVJMBJZ/GYK/qtYiDT6wcXyBvYk2nh9FNCj5fW348rmsBr tzexQGYQyxF8HyH+nZYhcuWBuUaMswdYoMOlCJ96rkw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+T40OtiHiIiAbTPsDwZVcCOksTT5wxRyAcxRFLbR46S4t6H9B1y6MAWnPKCfyiYALRuitlu/WlCiLO+LHPjt3A= X-Received: by 10.202.168.72 with SMTP id r69mr10282821oie.39.1510019099666; Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:44:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.74.4.195 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 17:44:19 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [204.9.206.218] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 17:44:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Creating swf from After Effects To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113ce99a0a42c1055d5ab822" --001a113ce99a0a42c1055d5ab822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Getting off-topic, but-- Easy Bake will allow you to bake *all* properties in current comp, or on selected layers (or just selected props) that have expressions all in one go. Just hit 'bake' with no layers selected and the comp open, and it'll run through 'em all for you. Zack Lovatt 424.442.0020 www.zacklovatt.com On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Chris Zwar wrote: > Thanks, this is all useful information. > > - I am baking the expression to help ensure the swf works, not because of > any issue with After Effects CS6. The expression I am using is a simple > .sampleImage that sets the opacity of each layer to the greyscale value o= f > a separate image sequence. I don=E2=80=99t know if the swf format can ha= ndle this, > so it=E2=80=99s easiest to bake the opacity keyframes and reduce the proj= ect down > so it=E2=80=99s nothing but solids. I am doing as much as possible in CC= 2017 > because the interface can handle all the layers, while earlier versions o= f > AE struggled with several hundred layers. The application will render > them, but the UI bugs out. > > - Thanks Lloyd, but I was able cobble something together pretty quick. > The problem is that it=E2=80=99s easy to select all layers, but for the = =E2=80=9Cconvert > expressions to keyframes=E2=80=9D option to work you have to select the i= ndividual > properties - in my case the Opacity of each layer. I haven=E2=80=99t loo= ked for a > keyboard shortcut but I actually don=E2=80=99t know how to "select all" f= or an > individual property of a layer - is that possible? Would love to know > how. I normally do it by dragging with the mouse, but once again the UI > struggles with more than a couple hundred layers. > > - I don=E2=80=99t know about the specific hardware that is playing this b= ack. > They have sent us an example .swf and they have specifically told us they > can=E2=80=99t play mp4s, but beyond that I don=E2=80=99t know. The examp= le swf is 16 > minutes long and only 1.5meg, so that=E2=80=99s another reason I wanted t= o try and > get a vector output and not embed video. > > - but I will look at what options there are for embedding flv or other > video - thanks for the suggestion. I haven=E2=80=99t worked with swf bef= ore=E2=80=A6 > > -Chris > > > On 7 Nov 2017, at 5:55 am, Py Fave wrote: > > what is the software/hardware involved in playback? > you could put a sequence of png in a swf container, too. > > or encode as .flv sorenson vp2 if i remember correctly. > > > > > 2017-11-06 13:47 GMT+01:00 Roei Tzoref : > >> question: why would you need to bake to expression if you are going all >> the way back to CS6? what js code is available in CC2017 are not in CS6? >> >> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Chris Zwar >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, I=E2=80=99ll look into that. >>> >>> So far I have discovered that CS 6 can export an swf. I can reduce my >>> project so there is nothing in it but some solids so I think the export >>> should work. It=E2=80=99s a pain back-saving from 2017 to CS 6 but at = least it=E2=80=99s >>> possible. >>> >>> The problem I have is that I have an expression driving the opacity of >>> each layer, and I am assuming I will need to convert the expressions to >>> keyframes before I export. With 10 minutes of animation and 800+ layer= s >>> this is going to take some time. You can=E2=80=99t feasibly select 800= layers in >>> CC 2014 and earlier, a small reminder of some of the improvements over = the >>> years, so I=E2=80=99m doing as much as I can in 2017 before back-saving= a heavily >>> reduced project to CS 6. Fun & games! >>> >>> I might have to script it and leave it over a weekend=E2=80=A6 >>> >>> > On 6 Nov 2017, at 4:30 pm, Robert Davidson >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > It=E2=80=99s been a long while since I did this in AE. >>> > Might be easier to render an mp4 and convert to swf with a converter >>> like =E2=80=98Wondershare Video converter Pro=E2=80=9D >>> > >>> > Cheers, Rob >>> > >>> >> On 6 Nov 2017, at 3:20 pm, Chris Zwar >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> So here=E2=80=99s a first for me, after working on an animation for = several >>> days I=E2=80=99ve just been told the only format they can play back is = swf. I=E2=80=99m >>> actually creating patterns for a lighting show, and the file is going t= o >>> some type of lighting desk console. I have no idea what, but it isn=E2= =80=99t like >>> it=E2=80=99s going to be played on a desktop PC. >>> >> >>> >> So considering that I=E2=80=99ve been working in CC 2017, what optio= ns do I >>> have? The good news (if any) is that the animation is just white solid= s on >>> a black background, and I know that at some stage in the past AE could >>> export a swf for vector images, which my animation is. However I=E2=80= =99m not >>> sure if I can back-save far enough to the last version of AE that still= did >>> this - I can=E2=80=99t remember when the SWF feature was removed from A= E. >>> >> >>> >> Any suggestions? >>> >> >>> >> -Chris >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> +---End of message---+ >>> >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> > >>> > >>> > +---End of message---+ >>> > To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> > > --001a113ce99a0a42c1055d5ab822 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Getting off-topic, but-- Easy Bake will allow you to bake = all=C2=A0properties in current comp, or on selected layers (or just = selected props) that have expressions all in one go. Just hit 'bake'= ; with no layers selected and the comp open, and it'll run through '= ;em all for you.

Zack Lovatt
424.442.0020

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Chris Zwar <= span dir=3D"ltr"><AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Thanks, this is all usefu= l information.

- I am baking the expression to help ensu= re the swf works, not because of any issue with After Effects CS6.=C2=A0 Th= e expression I am using is a simple .sampleImage that sets the opacity of e= ach layer to the greyscale value of a separate image sequence.=C2=A0 I don= =E2=80=99t know if the swf format can handle this, so it=E2=80=99s easiest = to bake the opacity keyframes and reduce the project down so it=E2=80=99s n= othing but solids.=C2=A0 I am doing as much as possible in CC 2017 because = the interface can handle all the layers, while earlier versions of AE strug= gled with several hundred layers.=C2=A0 The application will render them, b= ut the UI bugs out.

- Thanks Lloyd, but I was able= cobble something together pretty quick.=C2=A0 The problem is that it=E2=80= =99s easy to select all layers, but for the =E2=80=9Cconvert expressions to= keyframes=E2=80=9D option to work you have to select the individual proper= ties - in my case the Opacity of each layer.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t looked= for a keyboard shortcut but I actually don=E2=80=99t know how to "sel= ect all" for an individual property of a layer - is that possible?=C2= =A0 Would love to know how.=C2=A0 I normally do it by dragging with the mou= se, but once again the UI struggles with more than a couple hundred layers.=

- I don=E2=80=99t know about the specific hardwar= e that is playing this back.=C2=A0 They have sent us an example .swf and th= ey have specifically told us they can=E2=80=99t play mp4s, but beyond that = I don=E2=80=99t know.=C2=A0 The example swf is 16 minutes long and only 1.5= meg, so that=E2=80=99s another reason I wanted to try and get a vector outp= ut and not embed video.

- but I will look at what = options there are for embedding flv or other video - thanks for the suggest= ion.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t worked with swf before=E2=80=A6

-Chris


On 7 Nov 2017, at 5:55 am, Py Fave <AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:

what is the software/hardware involved in play= back?
you could put a sequence of png in a swf container, too.
=
or encode as .flv sorenson vp2 if i remember correctly.



2017-= 11-06 13:47 GMT+01:00 Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
question: why wou= ld you need to bake to expression if you are going all the way back to CS6?= what js code is available in CC2017 are not in CS6?

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 8:00= AM, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Thanks, I=E2=80=99ll look into that.

So far I have discovered that CS 6 can export an swf.=C2=A0 I can reduce my= project so there is nothing in it but some solids so I think the export sh= ould work.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s a pain back-saving from 2017 to CS 6 but at l= east it=E2=80=99s possible.

The problem I have is that I have an expression driving the opacity of each= layer, and I am assuming I will need to convert the expressions to keyfram= es before I export.=C2=A0 With 10 minutes of animation and 800+ layers this= is going to take some time.=C2=A0 You can=E2=80=99t feasibly select 800 la= yers in CC 2014 and earlier, a small reminder of some of the improvements o= ver the years, so I=E2=80=99m doing as much as I can in 2017 before back-sa= ving a heavily reduced project to CS 6.=C2=A0 Fun & games!

I might have to script it and leave it over a weekend=E2=80=A6

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 4:30 pm, Robert Davidson <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote= :
>
> It=E2=80=99s been a long while since I did this in AE.
> Might be easier to render an mp4 and convert to swf with a converter l= ike =E2=80=98Wondershare Video converter Pro=E2=80=9D
>
> Cheers, Rob
>
>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 3:20 pm, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:=
>>
>> So here=E2=80=99s a first for me, after working on an animation fo= r several days I=E2=80=99ve just been told the only format they can play ba= ck is swf.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m actually creating patterns for a lighting show= , and the file is going to some type of lighting desk console.=C2=A0 I have= no idea what, but it isn=E2=80=99t like it=E2=80=99s going to be played on= a desktop PC.
>>
>> So considering that I=E2=80=99ve been working in CC 2017, what opt= ions do I have?=C2=A0 The good news (if any) is that the animation is just = white solids on a black background, and I know that at some stage in the pa= st AE could export a swf for vector images, which my animation is.=C2=A0 Ho= wever I=E2=80=99m not sure if I can back-save far enough to the last versio= n of AE that still did this - I can=E2=80=99t remember when the SWF feature= was removed from AE.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
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