From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pg0-f50.google.com ([74.125.83.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6352887 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 23:18:23 +0100 Received: by mail-pg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id g6so3031150pgn.6 for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:21:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=r9qAYjuzABQ/d9N1rICnuSvjL0BjDql3q4cdRDRiWyU=; b=ikmJec0ZDHWEMRVrQ2KJZ2PemUN53txZpE+y7D/Njc8dwk3yvtrtQL5C1ycEZpNTyP HfsOKl5+S0a4o807KoTY/A8HRsI+fSZ79SvurK3gXxqrf1gJo61MVmPlXMgz0AeZahUv /bvdNfYS/KkjFXOYslPvq29TjfqfmVQ4A82hSdZ3FSSBfCjCjhbZvtdQr0d6ZFPbb016 4MjuoTys6eNm7CLv8nz5O+2/xM4kYqIe6TTAOpe7lOAFYRkLfdTO7WnT0Y7EpfvxCBPF 4m1SfnWU+TFGu1QWKjYvR/LdjqzdwBYC0ubGtgNCi/glHON1R0Ycx/bJ1l4teLl3nykP J0Cg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :references:to:in-reply-to; bh=r9qAYjuzABQ/d9N1rICnuSvjL0BjDql3q4cdRDRiWyU=; b=Fy0GpJDRwgxKbxH+Yrs/7iert0LEhfuAzu34EB8uYUxT7ksqtDXml91pnHaO5Io1KZ h2FkHZ1fXvSkRhXT72Emgo5+Di4alnqoXyZbJafy5EFdx6IayozoRPMfOCeCEKvPVNZu gIjc/l1VJ02w1IqRIklKOeA7MxzfKYBoG1XwfzllgpJp4hHg5ULc2x+kPA0j5nTM9nqo 7xIOKy5mTY3Q9m9f6xslwd81qFo30Al5gCWVZhvAzsuNx5N95pRiE5wtUI2+I6eaG6zg ACE14r7gb1XlMlBRBVjzYq+wbasL9h9P1EZXZSRcJAYdQs5cedbpodz1P/R1fTVA0bSs XYBA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX41ACRisiVGTc0MEqOwcOI3GGjsyubGxkpCb7bnCBT1Tb/7w5BZ G6YaN4sLxFpYxkSli2DIMcGzI9F1V6M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RO6yXAwglATjIJRU53Aj0uai4zE7ksDPqn5agCR0v0BR8WzPJDZDoPqC6gC78MH1DxiaMO4Q== X-Received: by 10.99.178.77 with SMTP id t13mr1832850pgo.219.1510179683037; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:21:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.133] (7.130.233.220.static.exetel.com.au. [220.233.130.7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 22sm9749433pfn.24.2017.11.08.14.21.20 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:21:21 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0AE1ECD0-7AD5-41D7-B773-B57FE82A0EE8" Message-Id: <6767D5E4-17F5-4BEE-96B3-653C6416416A@chriszwar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Creating swf from After Effects Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 09:21:20 +1100 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) --Apple-Mail=_0AE1ECD0-7AD5-41D7-B773-B57FE82A0EE8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Just thought I=E2=80=99d mention that this all ended up working. I=E2=80=99= m slightly surprised. But by baking expressions, reducing the project = to nothing but solids, then back-saving to CS 6, I was able to export a = swf that worked fine. Hurray for 90s technology! > On 7 Nov 2017, at 9:26 am, Chris Zwar wrote: >=20 > Thanks, this is all useful information. >=20 > - I am baking the expression to help ensure the swf works, not because = of any issue with After Effects CS6. The expression I am using is a = simple .sampleImage that sets the opacity of each layer to the greyscale = value of a separate image sequence. I don=E2=80=99t know if the swf = format can handle this, so it=E2=80=99s easiest to bake the opacity = keyframes and reduce the project down so it=E2=80=99s nothing but = solids. I am doing as much as possible in CC 2017 because the interface = can handle all the layers, while earlier versions of AE struggled with = several hundred layers. The application will render them, but the UI = bugs out. >=20 > - Thanks Lloyd, but I was able cobble something together pretty quick. = The problem is that it=E2=80=99s easy to select all layers, but for the = =E2=80=9Cconvert expressions to keyframes=E2=80=9D option to work you = have to select the individual properties - in my case the Opacity of = each layer. I haven=E2=80=99t looked for a keyboard shortcut but I = actually don=E2=80=99t know how to "select all" for an individual = property of a layer - is that possible? Would love to know how. I = normally do it by dragging with the mouse, but once again the UI = struggles with more than a couple hundred layers. >=20 > - I don=E2=80=99t know about the specific hardware that is playing = this back. They have sent us an example .swf and they have specifically = told us they can=E2=80=99t play mp4s, but beyond that I don=E2=80=99t = know. The example swf is 16 minutes long and only 1.5meg, so that=E2=80=99= s another reason I wanted to try and get a vector output and not embed = video. >=20 > - but I will look at what options there are for embedding flv or other = video - thanks for the suggestion. I haven=E2=80=99t worked with swf = before=E2=80=A6 >=20 > -Chris >=20 >=20 >> On 7 Nov 2017, at 5:55 am, Py Fave > wrote: >>=20 >> what is the software/hardware involved in playback? >> you could put a sequence of png in a swf container, too. >>=20 >> or encode as .flv sorenson vp2 if i remember correctly. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> 2017-11-06 13:47 GMT+01:00 Roei Tzoref >: >> question: why would you need to bake to expression if you are going = all the way back to CS6? what js code is available in CC2017 are not in = CS6? >>=20 >> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Chris Zwar > wrote: >> Thanks, I=E2=80=99ll look into that. >>=20 >> So far I have discovered that CS 6 can export an swf. I can reduce = my project so there is nothing in it but some solids so I think the = export should work. It=E2=80=99s a pain back-saving from 2017 to CS 6 = but at least it=E2=80=99s possible. >>=20 >> The problem I have is that I have an expression driving the opacity = of each layer, and I am assuming I will need to convert the expressions = to keyframes before I export. With 10 minutes of animation and 800+ = layers this is going to take some time. You can=E2=80=99t feasibly = select 800 layers in CC 2014 and earlier, a small reminder of some of = the improvements over the years, so I=E2=80=99m doing as much as I can = in 2017 before back-saving a heavily reduced project to CS 6. Fun & = games! >>=20 >> I might have to script it and leave it over a weekend=E2=80=A6 >>=20 >> > On 6 Nov 2017, at 4:30 pm, Robert Davidson > wrote: >> > >> > It=E2=80=99s been a long while since I did this in AE. >> > Might be easier to render an mp4 and convert to swf with a = converter like =E2=80=98Wondershare Video converter Pro=E2=80=9D >> > >> > Cheers, Rob >> > >> >> On 6 Nov 2017, at 3:20 pm, Chris Zwar > wrote: >> >> >> >> So here=E2=80=99s a first for me, after working on an animation = for several days I=E2=80=99ve just been told the only format they can = play back is swf. I=E2=80=99m actually creating patterns for a lighting = show, and the file is going to some type of lighting desk console. I = have no idea what, but it isn=E2=80=99t like it=E2=80=99s going to be = played on a desktop PC. >> >> >> >> So considering that I=E2=80=99ve been working in CC 2017, what = options do I have? The good news (if any) is that the animation is just = white solids on a black background, and I know that at some stage in the = past AE could export a swf for vector images, which my animation is. = However I=E2=80=99m not sure if I can back-save far enough to the last = version of AE that still did this - I can=E2=80=99t remember when the = SWF feature was removed from AE. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >> >> -Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> >> To unsubscribe send any message to > >> > >> > >> > +---End of message---+ >> > To unsubscribe send any message to > >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to > >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0AE1ECD0-7AD5-41D7-B773-B57FE82A0EE8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Just thought I=E2=80=99d mention that this all ended up = working.  I=E2=80=99m slightly surprised.  But by baking = expressions, reducing the project to nothing but solids, then = back-saving to CS 6, I was able to export a swf that worked fine. =  Hurray for 90s technology!

On = 7 Nov 2017, at 9:26 am, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Thanks, this = is all useful information.

- I am baking the expression to help ensure the swf works, = not because of any issue with After Effects CS6.  The expression I = am using is a simple .sampleImage that sets the opacity of each layer to = the greyscale value of a separate image sequence.  I don=E2=80=99t = know if the swf format can handle this, so it=E2=80=99s easiest to bake = the opacity keyframes and reduce the project down so it=E2=80=99s = nothing but solids.  I am doing as much as possible in CC 2017 = because the interface can handle all the layers, while earlier versions = of AE struggled with several hundred layers.  The application will = render them, but the UI bugs out.

- Thanks Lloyd, but I was able cobble = something together pretty quick.  The problem is that it=E2=80=99s = easy to select all layers, but for the =E2=80=9Cconvert expressions to = keyframes=E2=80=9D option to work you have to select the individual = properties - in my case the Opacity of each layer.  I haven=E2=80=99t= looked for a keyboard shortcut but I actually don=E2=80=99t know how to = "select all" for an individual property of a layer - is that possible? =  Would love to know how.  I normally do it by dragging with = the mouse, but once again the UI struggles with more than a couple = hundred layers.

- I don=E2=80=99t know about the specific hardware that is = playing this back.  They have sent us an example .swf and they have = specifically told us they can=E2=80=99t play mp4s, but beyond that I = don=E2=80=99t know.  The example swf is 16 minutes long and only = 1.5meg, so that=E2=80=99s another reason I wanted to try and get a = vector output and not embed video.

- but I will look at what options there = are for embedding flv or other video - thanks for the suggestion. =  I haven=E2=80=99t worked with swf before=E2=80=A6

-Chris


On 7 Nov = 2017, at 5:55 am, Py Fave <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

what is the software/hardware = involved in playback?
you could put a sequence of = png in a swf container, too.

or = encode as .flv sorenson vp2 if i remember correctly.




2017-11-06= 13:47 GMT+01:00 Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
question: why would you need to bake to expression if you are = going all the way back to CS6? what js code is available in CC2017 are = not in CS6?

On Mon, = Nov 6, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Thanks, I=E2=80=99ll = look into that.

So far I have discovered that CS 6 can export an swf.  I can reduce = my project so there is nothing in it but some solids so I think the = export should work.  It=E2=80=99s a pain back-saving from 2017 to = CS 6 but at least it=E2=80=99s possible.

The problem I have is that I have an expression driving the opacity of = each layer, and I am assuming I will need to convert the expressions to = keyframes before I export.  With 10 minutes of animation and 800+ = layers this is going to take some time.  You can=E2=80=99t feasibly = select 800 layers in CC 2014 and earlier, a small reminder of some of = the improvements over the years, so I=E2=80=99m doing as much as I can = in 2017 before back-saving a heavily reduced project to CS 6.  Fun = & games!

I might have to script it and leave it over a weekend=E2=80=A6

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 4:30 pm, Robert Davidson <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> It=E2=80=99s been a long while since I did this in AE.
= > Might be easier to render an mp4 and convert to swf with a = converter like =E2=80=98Wondershare Video converter Pro=E2=80=9D
>
> Cheers, Rob
>
>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 3:20 pm, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>>
>> So here=E2=80=99s a first for me, after working on an animation = for several days I=E2=80=99ve just been told the only format they can = play back is swf.  I=E2=80=99m actually creating patterns for a = lighting show, and the file is going to some type of lighting desk = console.  I have no idea what, but it isn=E2=80=99t like it=E2=80=99s= going to be played on a desktop PC.
>>
>> So considering that I=E2=80=99ve been working in CC 2017, what = options do I have?  The good news (if any) is that the animation is = just white solids on a black background, and I know that at some stage = in the past AE could export a swf for vector images, which my animation = is.  However I=E2=80=99m not sure if I can back-save far enough to = the last version of AE that still did this - I can=E2=80=99t remember = when the SWF feature was removed from AE.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>>
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