From: "Robert Davidson" Received: from icp-osb-irony-out7.external.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.107] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTP id 6352931 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 02:04:00 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2AWAgANqQNa/1kilXxcFgQBAQEBAQIBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBCAEBAQGCRHBkbieDfZlEgXyWXIIBLYFegzoChHxDFAEBAQEBAQEBAWsohR4?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAgEjKyYKCwsNCycDAgIxFREGCAsaAwSJdQUHEaokgichAop4AQoBAQEBI?= =?us-ascii?q?4MwggeBVIISgwGDI4FagnA9MYIyBZhziSd2hnGQC4kcgT+FaYxohXmEeTYhgXF?= =?us-ascii?q?VIRlJLQGCNglAghMcgXstNgGMCQEBAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2AWAgANqQNa/1kilXxcFgQBAQEBAQIBAQEBCAEBAQGCRHB?= =?us-ascii?q?kbieDfZlEgXyWXIIBLYFegzoChHxDFAEBAQEBAQEBAWsohR4BAQEBAgEjKyYKC?= =?us-ascii?q?wsNCycDAgIxFREGCAsaAwSJdQUHEaokgichAop4AQoBAQEBI4MwggeBVIISgwG?= =?us-ascii?q?DI4FagnA9MYIyBZhziSd2hnGQC4kcgT+FaYxohXmEeTYhgXFVIRlJLQGCNglAg?= =?us-ascii?q?hMcgXstNgGMCQEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.44,365,1505750400"; d="scan'208,217";a="25675007" Received: from unknown (HELO roberts-imac.lan) ([124.149.34.89]) by icp-osb-irony-out7.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2017 09:06:37 +0800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7B6612A9-B826-4648-A915-C7412A50D4DD" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.1 \(3445.4.7\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Creating swf from After Effects Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 12:06:34 +1100 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0075CFA8-7EAE-4E85-992B-7DAAB19A6A7D@ozemail.com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.4.7) --Apple-Mail=_7B6612A9-B826-4648-A915-C7412A50D4DD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Nice to hear that! Cheers, Rob Robert Davidson Multimedia Specialist 0419 211175 robdav@ozemail.com.au http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html > On 9 Nov 2017, at 9:21 am, Chris Zwar wrote: >=20 > Just thought I=E2=80=99d mention that this all ended up working. = I=E2=80=99m slightly surprised. But by baking expressions, reducing the = project to nothing but solids, then back-saving to CS 6, I was able to = export a swf that worked fine. Hurray for 90s technology! >=20 >> On 7 Nov 2017, at 9:26 am, Chris Zwar > wrote: >>=20 >> Thanks, this is all useful information. >>=20 >> - I am baking the expression to help ensure the swf works, not = because of any issue with After Effects CS6. The expression I am using = is a simple .sampleImage that sets the opacity of each layer to the = greyscale value of a separate image sequence. I don=E2=80=99t know if = the swf format can handle this, so it=E2=80=99s easiest to bake the = opacity keyframes and reduce the project down so it=E2=80=99s nothing = but solids. I am doing as much as possible in CC 2017 because the = interface can handle all the layers, while earlier versions of AE = struggled with several hundred layers. The application will render = them, but the UI bugs out. >>=20 >> - Thanks Lloyd, but I was able cobble something together pretty = quick. The problem is that it=E2=80=99s easy to select all layers, but = for the =E2=80=9Cconvert expressions to keyframes=E2=80=9D option to = work you have to select the individual properties - in my case the = Opacity of each layer. I haven=E2=80=99t looked for a keyboard shortcut = but I actually don=E2=80=99t know how to "select all" for an individual = property of a layer - is that possible? Would love to know how. I = normally do it by dragging with the mouse, but once again the UI = struggles with more than a couple hundred layers. >>=20 >> - I don=E2=80=99t know about the specific hardware that is playing = this back. They have sent us an example .swf and they have specifically = told us they can=E2=80=99t play mp4s, but beyond that I don=E2=80=99t = know. The example swf is 16 minutes long and only 1.5meg, so that=E2=80=99= s another reason I wanted to try and get a vector output and not embed = video. >>=20 >> - but I will look at what options there are for embedding flv or = other video - thanks for the suggestion. I haven=E2=80=99t worked with = swf before=E2=80=A6 >>=20 >> -Chris >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 7 Nov 2017, at 5:55 am, Py Fave > wrote: >>>=20 >>> what is the software/hardware involved in playback? >>> you could put a sequence of png in a swf container, too. >>>=20 >>> or encode as .flv sorenson vp2 if i remember correctly. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> 2017-11-06 13:47 GMT+01:00 Roei Tzoref >: >>> question: why would you need to bake to expression if you are going = all the way back to CS6? what js code is available in CC2017 are not in = CS6? >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Chris Zwar > wrote: >>> Thanks, I=E2=80=99ll look into that. >>>=20 >>> So far I have discovered that CS 6 can export an swf. I can reduce = my project so there is nothing in it but some solids so I think the = export should work. It=E2=80=99s a pain back-saving from 2017 to CS 6 = but at least it=E2=80=99s possible. >>>=20 >>> The problem I have is that I have an expression driving the opacity = of each layer, and I am assuming I will need to convert the expressions = to keyframes before I export. With 10 minutes of animation and 800+ = layers this is going to take some time. You can=E2=80=99t feasibly = select 800 layers in CC 2014 and earlier, a small reminder of some of = the improvements over the years, so I=E2=80=99m doing as much as I can = in 2017 before back-saving a heavily reduced project to CS 6. Fun & = games! >>>=20 >>> I might have to script it and leave it over a weekend=E2=80=A6 >>>=20 >>> > On 6 Nov 2017, at 4:30 pm, Robert Davidson = > wrote: >>> > >>> > It=E2=80=99s been a long while since I did this in AE. >>> > Might be easier to render an mp4 and convert to swf with a = converter like =E2=80=98Wondershare Video converter Pro=E2=80=9D >>> > >>> > Cheers, Rob >>> > >>> >> On 6 Nov 2017, at 3:20 pm, Chris Zwar > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> So here=E2=80=99s a first for me, after working on an animation = for several days I=E2=80=99ve just been told the only format they can = play back is swf. I=E2=80=99m actually creating patterns for a lighting = show, and the file is going to some type of lighting desk console. I = have no idea what, but it isn=E2=80=99t like it=E2=80=99s going to be = played on a desktop PC. >>> >> >>> >> So considering that I=E2=80=99ve been working in CC 2017, what = options do I have? The good news (if any) is that the animation is just = white solids on a black background, and I know that at some stage in the = past AE could export a swf for vector images, which my animation is. = However I=E2=80=99m not sure if I can back-save far enough to the last = version of AE that still did this - I can=E2=80=99t remember when the = SWF feature was removed from AE. >>> >> >>> >> Any suggestions? >>> >> >>> >> -Chris >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> +---End of message---+ >>> >> To unsubscribe send any message to > >>> > >>> > >>> > +---End of message---+ >>> > To unsubscribe send any message to > >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to > >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_7B6612A9-B826-4648-A915-C7412A50D4DD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Nice = to hear that!
Cheers, Rob


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On 9 Nov 2017, at 9:21 am, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Just thought = I=E2=80=99d mention that this all ended up working.  I=E2=80=99m = slightly surprised.  But by baking expressions, reducing the = project to nothing but solids, then back-saving to CS 6, I was able to = export a swf that worked fine.  Hurray for 90s technology!

On 7 Nov 2017, at 9:26 am, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Thanks, this = is all useful information.

- I am baking the expression to help ensure the swf works, = not because of any issue with After Effects CS6.  The expression I = am using is a simple .sampleImage that sets the opacity of each layer to = the greyscale value of a separate image sequence.  I don=E2=80=99t = know if the swf format can handle this, so it=E2=80=99s easiest to bake = the opacity keyframes and reduce the project down so it=E2=80=99s = nothing but solids.  I am doing as much as possible in CC 2017 = because the interface can handle all the layers, while earlier versions = of AE struggled with several hundred layers.  The application will = render them, but the UI bugs out.

- Thanks Lloyd, but I was able cobble = something together pretty quick.  The problem is that it=E2=80=99s = easy to select all layers, but for the =E2=80=9Cconvert expressions to = keyframes=E2=80=9D option to work you have to select the individual = properties - in my case the Opacity of each layer.  I haven=E2=80=99t= looked for a keyboard shortcut but I actually don=E2=80=99t know how to = "select all" for an individual property of a layer - is that possible? =  Would love to know how.  I normally do it by dragging with = the mouse, but once again the UI struggles with more than a couple = hundred layers.

- I don=E2=80=99t know about the specific hardware that is = playing this back.  They have sent us an example .swf and they have = specifically told us they can=E2=80=99t play mp4s, but beyond that I = don=E2=80=99t know.  The example swf is 16 minutes long and only = 1.5meg, so that=E2=80=99s another reason I wanted to try and get a = vector output and not embed video.

- but I will look at what options there = are for embedding flv or other video - thanks for the suggestion. =  I haven=E2=80=99t worked with swf before=E2=80=A6

-Chris


On 7 Nov = 2017, at 5:55 am, Py Fave <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

what is the software/hardware = involved in playback?
you could put a sequence of = png in a swf container, too.

or = encode as .flv sorenson vp2 if i remember correctly.




2017-11-06= 13:47 GMT+01:00 Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
question: why would you need to bake to expression if you are = going all the way back to CS6? what js code is available in CC2017 are = not in CS6?

On Mon, = Nov 6, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Thanks, I=E2=80=99ll = look into that.

So far I have discovered that CS 6 can export an swf.  I can reduce = my project so there is nothing in it but some solids so I think the = export should work.  It=E2=80=99s a pain back-saving from 2017 to = CS 6 but at least it=E2=80=99s possible.

The problem I have is that I have an expression driving the opacity of = each layer, and I am assuming I will need to convert the expressions to = keyframes before I export.  With 10 minutes of animation and 800+ = layers this is going to take some time.  You can=E2=80=99t feasibly = select 800 layers in CC 2014 and earlier, a small reminder of some of = the improvements over the years, so I=E2=80=99m doing as much as I can = in 2017 before back-saving a heavily reduced project to CS 6.  Fun = & games!

I might have to script it and leave it over a weekend=E2=80=A6

> On 6 Nov 2017, at 4:30 pm, Robert Davidson <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> It=E2=80=99s been a long while since I did this in AE.
= > Might be easier to render an mp4 and convert to swf with a = converter like =E2=80=98Wondershare Video converter Pro=E2=80=9D
>
> Cheers, Rob
>
>> On 6 Nov 2017, at 3:20 pm, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>>
>> So here=E2=80=99s a first for me, after working on an animation = for several days I=E2=80=99ve just been told the only format they can = play back is swf.  I=E2=80=99m actually creating patterns for a = lighting show, and the file is going to some type of lighting desk = console.  I have no idea what, but it isn=E2=80=99t like it=E2=80=99s= going to be played on a desktop PC.
>>
>> So considering that I=E2=80=99ve been working in CC 2017, what = options do I have?  The good news (if any) is that the animation is = just white solids on a black background, and I know that at some stage = in the past AE could export a swf for vector images, which my animation = is.  However I=E2=80=99m not sure if I can back-save far enough to = the last version of AE that still did this - I can=E2=80=99t remember = when the SWF feature was removed from AE.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
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