From: "Ross Shain" Received: from mail-qk0-f176.google.com ([209.85.220.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6359574 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 22:39:53 +0100 Received: by mail-qk0-f176.google.com with SMTP id b85so14139029qkc.13 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:43:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=borisfx.com; s=google; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:subject:message-id :references:in-reply-to:to; bh=Wdyd4YO6kLjfaYwIS9sMes6NTVz6B01PbCvYMrGbweY=; b=pWFrN9/UpKBhhSMXh1wK8m07ybCwsxCZBKqmwTucTRbtXXXLx0eVGo6nbvT/BGM7Nt OFLd8SLCyqpLWB+dObJ0enAkMCuVM6NskcEkSBA+HGTdHmGDpKvdu4dP6566cHqWtFNb 2E1eA43WYyI5PiPY1fkG+g7V6EjdUg+LPbY7ZckNJzMJAednyzgq1xBxg6b5xMgLHa/I 4qx4eddvyA0wgXyXHP6/QrB/f40wrqQLxPHWszXKDG5P2Gx6Pxow90NJMeGYKi8IpEMh 5mVJiAf8EO8Wz4+X+A8egemCZJf7ULlZHqZX+pIRQeV3+RPvRp9HTR1NPC9v8qFfjxk5 G/oA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date :subject:message-id:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=Wdyd4YO6kLjfaYwIS9sMes6NTVz6B01PbCvYMrGbweY=; b=N5D6lJ5fnKByyck4mY/tN08NXl4gM6lBDPyT/dnxUPy1URxbLmuOYOllpbewMmyGSl hKW5ATGCZ87VsURyv9+PUS1bfIsIpqw9QUIX7xEpdYPuwSlytGKtU2waWpUYiQT4eR3w 2HVgkkxAeyElf2evyzC5J4PEUYsmhQ53XMl0H2inD8G+esloJKRHYUdexYuPfCrCF0A9 r+zcHM5DihR921wbZmbFNDgOcVTweu48dfLjibZWkEACRtmzAJPTEvrSgbfRbY/4lq52 fIPavTDuKV80uuxTiJ7ejJXZkLPRHR/qO8etvvigLkl0q1LmQybkWKzkRXuxcCDM+RWV e81A== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6PfWs3Z+uLv2EnvVoJq4fKuuqm1IumBPAL1RRJYQtq56tKWehE QQX8oo1kcNUTdf/x2nsCuvntCQWuoQ5GHnuUmtZbuhqcQNwNljgiX4lfJ/TJ7CL/XP/mdnikjad Qn5gOnmOETOts/ksW+ScZktegfWyMZSrjWN1bEJqAcp5eN0vsDDJACLprS5hfGQqo X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYV6+//vPjtNCJgaYa2xCZ2I8QMy93Wy2o/70H5uYIXcaSCIOHQcekpy9e2WiRCoOjjDXv/uQ== X-Received: by 10.55.115.130 with SMTP id o124mr28888156qkc.83.1511300600954; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:43:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [10.250.146.82] (mobile-107-107-58-223.mycingular.net. [107.107.58.223]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u26sm9788042qtb.1.2017.11.21.13.43.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:43:18 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-EABEE018-CBF8-4388-A597-053B4F663DEE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:43:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [AE] Primatte Keyer Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14G60) --Apple-Mail-EABEE018-CBF8-4388-A597-053B4F663DEE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And the cheesy marketing note: Continuum Keying Unit (with Primatte and integrated Mocha masking) is on sal= e now for 30% off. You can never have too many keying options.=20 https://store.borisfx.com/products/continuum-units-key-and-blend Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 21, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Nov 21, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk w= rote: >>=20 >> Does anyone know if there's any relation between the primatte keyer from R= ed Giant and the primatte at keyer from Boris? And second, Has anyone used t= he Boris keyer and how does it compare? >=20 > http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/03/boris-fx-licenses-primatte-keyer-sets-n= ab-launch-for-updates/ >=20 > I have only demo-ed Primatte, and am no expert on it, but I can say a coup= le of things: The price from RG was so steep as to deter me from buying it,= and Keylight, created by The Foundry is native in Ae and is a very good key= ing plug-in. >=20 > IMO, it=E2=80=99s worth taking the time to learn Keylight by watching a fe= w advanced tutorials. It may be all you need. >=20 > I=E2=80=99ve found that in less than ideal green screen shots that amateur= shooters have given me, it can help to use two instances of Keylight: one t= o remove most of the green, and a second to fine tune the key. I=E2=80=99ve= read that this is a reason for the Intermediate Result option on the first i= nstance. >=20 > Try playing with the Screen Matte > Replace Method dropdown. =E2=80=9COff= " may give you the best result. It=E2=80=99s not the default setting. >=20 > In my experience, the better the green screen was shot, the easier it is t= o key. But, I have no control over the people my clients hire to shoot. Man= y of them apparently think all you need to do is hang up some green paper or= fabric and shoot away, and on Long-GOP crap codec to make matters worse. >=20 > That said, I=E2=80=99m already a BCC10 customer, and will look at this upg= rade. I=E2=80=99ve read of some plan to CUDA accelerate their plugs in Pr, w= hich would be awfully sweet. The Ultra keyer in Pr is pretty good, but not g= reat, and it=E2=80=99d be nice not to have to Dynamically link to Ae to get b= etter keys. >=20 >=20 > .. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to --Apple-Mail-EABEE018-CBF8-4388-A597-053B4F663DEE Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And the cheesy marketing note:
Continuum Keying Unit (with Primatte and integr= ated Mocha masking) is on sale now for 30% off.

You can never have too many= keying options. 

On Nov 21, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

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On Nov 21, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
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Does anyone know if there's any relation between the= primatte keyer from Red Giant and the primatte at keyer from Boris? And sec= ond, Has anyone used the Boris keyer and how does it compare?

http://www.= studiodaily.com/2017/03/boris-fx-licenses-primatte-keyer-sets-nab-launch-for= -updates/

I have only demo-ed Primatte,= and am no expert on it, but I can say a couple of things:  The price f= rom RG was so steep as to deter me from buying it, and Keylight, created by T= he Foundry is native in Ae and is a very good keying plug-in.

IMO, it=E2=80=99s worth taking the time to learn Keylight= by watching a few advanced tutorials.  It may be all you need.<= br>
I=E2=80=99ve found that in less than ideal green s= creen shots that amateur shooters have given me, it can help to use two inst= ances of Keylight: one to remove most of the green, and a second to fine tun= e the key.  I=E2=80=99ve read that this is a reason for the Intermediat= e Result option on the first instance.

Try p= laying with the Screen Matte > Replace Method dropdown.  =E2=80=9COf= f" may give you the best result.  It=E2=80=99s not the default setting.=

In my experience, the better the green scr= een was shot, the easier it is to key.  But, I have no control over the= people my clients hire to shoot. Many of them apparently think all you need= to do is hang up some green paper or fabric and shoot away, and on Long-GOP= crap codec to make matters worse.

That sai= d, I=E2=80=99m already a BCC10 customer, and will look at this upgrade. &nbs= p;I=E2=80=99ve read of some plan to CUDA accelerate their plugs in Pr, which= would be awfully sweet. The Ultra keyer in Pr is pretty good, but not great= , and it=E2=80=99d be nice not to have to Dynamically link to Ae to get bett= er keys.


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