Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv — Message #63431
From: Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Primatte Keyer
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:47:14 -0500
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
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Ross,

Oh, that 30% is what got me looking and I agree on the keying suites. I've used the AE one standard and it's great. I've used the RG one and sometimes the AE has been Better. This Boris one seems to have a bit more capability and as said earlier, never know what the hell the client will submit, more times than not, it's not perfect.  

Eric

On Nov 21, 2017 16:44, "Ross Shain" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
And the cheesy marketing note:
Continuum Keying Unit (with Primatte and integrated Mocha masking) is on sale now for 30% off.

You can never have too many keying options. 
https://store.borisfx.com/products/continuum-units-key-and-blend

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 21, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:


On Nov 21, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Does anyone know if there's any relation between the primatte keyer from Red Giant and the primatte at keyer from Boris? And second, Has anyone used the Boris keyer and how does it compare?

http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/03/boris-fx-licenses-primatte-keyer-sets-nab-launch-for-updates/

I have only demo-ed Primatte, and am no expert on it, but I can say a couple of things:  The price from RG was so steep as to deter me from buying it, and Keylight, created by The Foundry is native in Ae and is a very good keying plug-in.

IMO, it’s worth taking the time to learn Keylight by watching a few advanced tutorials.  It may be all you need.

I’ve found that in less than ideal green screen shots that amateur shooters have given me, it can help to use two instances of Keylight: one to remove most of the green, and a second to fine tune the key.  I’ve read that this is a reason for the Intermediate Result option on the first instance.

Try playing with the Screen Matte > Replace Method dropdown.  “Off" may give you the best result.  It’s not the default setting.

In my experience, the better the green screen was shot, the easier it is to key.  But, I have no control over the people my clients hire to shoot. Many of them apparently think all you need to do is hang up some green paper or fabric and shoot away, and on Long-GOP crap codec to make matters worse.

That said, I’m already a BCC10 customer, and will look at this upgrade.  I’ve read of some plan to CUDA accelerate their plugs in Pr, which would be awfully sweet. The Ultra keyer in Pr is pretty good, but not great, and it’d be nice not to have to Dynamically link to Ae to get better keys.


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