From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-io0-f178.google.com ([209.85.223.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6360761 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:32:15 +0100 Received: by mail-io0-f178.google.com with SMTP id z74so27130923iof.12 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:35:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=88XXHyrD/Msd9JzppPp3FXI74CMYVhFCfgPXw3ICLjk=; b=IE3tVssSqUgt6ZbDLRg7lXJmgaX4wX3ycP1kEgCK68Kj6UzxkDpGKRNLACfYjC+xab Q36hqa3j4Xzc0M9k+wn7Ra35hMUO67GQj9co82VlorkCRL3b8CD9nQ2NTY5E36DZLOAp qPSbApAb4vtIKg5IkfhBsr6kcjr7ylZKg1yWFuZ8k8vUCqmUuUqEo9BkHldWLw0wz7sd Vb8MGDAjAEfaPAdXTBHb0v9EC6LQXcrHHLz1c9mMzemtqBfcbIbIBw050P1GPkUyarp3 x7D3uKOnTJG+WAJqHDYKtuHE/X0Y9qkIbMoVWH6UJK0lZLHhsld0f251BbAtyRx0jYbG BZvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=88XXHyrD/Msd9JzppPp3FXI74CMYVhFCfgPXw3ICLjk=; b=IuItp8G3RujICx4vW7b5xPR29YD+b5lLRdrlK8z3Z5d8KgoMKOI5CK+EGLvGTu7ffX uBe1Xd2RWmxXJXDXdE7j5d4yZOqM3T45T1hczZlrW9hhghp9eGc98FgKJs+d8EDjzvGQ YSKM0+/TUWkz5Hu7WQ6WU1pu74vnYJG+p/BJftr17f2ANWXk7BjaEDQBuNL1fjucUqkA yS/iuJ2bf4k8Iiiip6XyxJ32lyIu9Fv6JPWuKzWtRB1RgqrJ8LjwBVkyCmyHgsQQjIIq WLPxxprHDI6VVY3kqRGZqTiauFwrd1fgZKOr4yleA4EElf2BnTJ6ua0OHBjYnm3rXpBl gd4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX54mIHzSOm/4vM6JBb+l1NLS+u4pQfAt6gxwkxx1WDmQIJQi+Pd 1H47JG389hiG2TI2FXyc6hp+7DKq9GWcOOyi+jE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZ3RrHOLalOQ//H+Dp+xh03J8qlhDoqQOXi55ufVuZlKTofuPjaUwdMoNmsPjfdg518FwHOl85qUs412GgHtHU= X-Received: by 10.107.131.99 with SMTP id f96mr27101895iod.215.1511454946352; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:35:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.168.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:35:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:35:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Primatte Keyer To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113eb4182be444055ea907bb" --001a113eb4182be444055ea907bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm thinking I downloaded the wrong version. Not even sure what OFX is. lol Running Adobe, Win 64bit next. Eric On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > All, > > Ok, I'm looking around. Just a couple things. The download file it sent > me to was for this file: Continuum_OFX_11_0_1_Win.exe I presume this is > correct? > > I went to install, it prompted me for the registration key but did not > offer me a choice on the location. It did offer to remove any unlicensed > products, which to my knowledge, I have none. > > Where is the common located and where do you suppose it installed it to > relocate manually if I need? > > Thanks, > Eric > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Ross Shain > wrote: > >> Check BCC Keys folder. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >> wrote: >> >> Hey Peter, >> >> I made the purchase of Primatte Keyer, studio, whatever it's called. lol >> But I can't find it in my effects panel after installing and registering= . >> >> Eric >> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Peter McAuley >> wrote: >> >>> I think you'll really enjoy working with the Primatte Studio keyer - >>> should you need any assistance understanding any of the features please >>> feel free to contact me directly. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter. >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Tons of great comments here. I also noticed reference to 3D. I'll be >>> buying the Boris Keying suite. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Teddy Gage >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have been using Fusion Studio 9 and the keying is top notch. The new >>>> Delta keyer is fantastic, and you can combine with ultimatte (their ve= rsion >>>> of primatte) >>>> >>>> The trick to keying is always using multiple keys and combine. It's >>>> rare one key will solve every corner of your screen >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 7:28 PM Chris Zwar >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 22 Nov 2017, at 8:15 am, Jim Curtis >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > I have only demo-ed Primatte, and am no expert on it, but I can say >>>>> a couple of things: The price from RG was so steep as to deter me fr= om >>>>> buying it, and Keylight, created by The Foundry is native in Ae and i= s a >>>>> very good keying plug-in. >>>>> > >>>>> > IMO, it=E2=80=99s worth taking the time to learn Keylight by watchi= ng a few >>>>> advanced tutorials. It may be all you need. >>>>> >>>>> I have often contemplated writing an article that looks at how >>>>> different keying plugins work, there are a few basic approaches. Key= light >>>>> is my go-to plugin because it comes with AE, however the last time I = had to >>>>> do keying I was very surprised to discover that I got better results = with >>>>> the old AE 8-bit =E2=80=9CColor Range=E2=80=9D keyer than with Keylig= ht. Go figure=E2=80=A6 I will >>>>> experiment more with this in the future. I find Keylight crashes >>>>> constantly with AE 2017, which is why I have been trying alternatives= . >>>>> >>>>> Primatte works in a totally different way to Keylight, so they are >>>>> likely to give different results with different footage. Keylight is= a >>>>> difference keyer, and works by looking at the difference between the = Red, >>>>> Green & Blue channels. A more advanced version of putting a green so= lid on >>>>> top of your footage and choosing the difference blending mode. This = is why >>>>> it only really works with green or blue screens. >>>>> >>>>> Primatte is an advanced linear keyer, although I recall their >>>>> marketing using the term 3D keyer (maybe I=E2=80=99m remembering inco= rrectly). >>>>> Basically, imagine an RGB value plotted on a graph as an X,Y,Z >>>>> co-ordinate. Every colour will have a different position in a cube w= here >>>>> the axis are represented by R,G,B values. Primatte compares the posi= tion >>>>> of each pixel with the position of the main key colour, as if they ar= e >>>>> co-ordinates in 3D space, and uses the distance and direction to calc= ulate >>>>> if the pixel is transparent or not. >>>>> >>>>> Always fun to discover what=E2=80=99s happening under the hood=E2=80= =A6 >>>>> >>>>> -Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____________________________ >>>> Teddy Gage >>>> President >>>> Shotgun Inc. >>>> 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX >>>> SHOTGUNPOST.COM >>>> BKLYN NY 11215 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >>> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirker= ic >>> IMDB: >>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeri= c >> IMDB: >> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >> >> >> > > > -- > > > *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk > Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric > IMDB: > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ = * > > --=20 *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --001a113eb4182be444055ea907bb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm thinking I downloaded the wrong version.

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Not even sure what OFX is. lol=C2=A0 Running Adobe, Win 64bit nex= t.

Eric

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
All,

Ok, I'm looking around.= =C2=A0 Just a couple things.=C2=A0 The download file it sent me to was for = this file:=C2=A0 Continuum_OFX_11_0_1_Win.exe=C2=A0 I presume this is corre= ct?

I went to install, it prompted me for the regi= stration key but did not offer me a choice on the location.=C2=A0 It did of= fer to remove any unlicensed products, which to my knowledge, I have none.<= /div>

Where is the common located and where do you suppo= se it installed it to relocate manually if I need?

Thanks,
Eric

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Ross Shain &= lt;AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv> wrote:
Check BCC Keys folder.=C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:


On Wed, Nov= 22, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Peter McAuley <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= wrote:
I think you'll really enjoy working with the Primatte Studio ke= yer - should you need any assistance understanding any of the features plea= se feel free to contact me directly.=C2=A0

Cheers,=

Peter.=C2=A0

On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:= 55 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Tons of great comments here.=C2= =A0 I also noticed reference to 3D.=C2=A0 I'll be buying the Boris Keyi= ng suite.

Eric

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Teddy Ga= ge <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I have been using Fusion Studio 9 a= nd the keying is top notch. The new Delta keyer is fantastic, and you can c= ombine with ultimatte (their version of primatte)
The trick to keying is always using multiple keys= and combine. It's rare one key will solve every corner of your screen= =C2=A0

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 7:2= 8 PM Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
On 2= 2 Nov 2017, at 8:15 am, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> I have only demo-ed Primatte, and am no expert on it, but I can say a = couple of things:=C2=A0 The price from RG was so steep as to deter me from = buying it, and Keylight, created by The Foundry is native in Ae and is a ve= ry good keying plug-in.
>
> IMO, it=E2=80=99s worth taking the time to learn Keylight by watching = a few advanced tutorials.=C2=A0 It may be all you need.

I have often contemplated writing an article that looks at how different ke= ying plugins work, there are a few basic approaches.=C2=A0 Keylight is my g= o-to plugin because it comes with AE, however the last time I had to do key= ing I was very surprised to discover that I got better results with the old= AE 8-bit =E2=80=9CColor Range=E2=80=9D keyer than with Keylight.=C2=A0 Go = figure=E2=80=A6 I will experiment more with this in the future.=C2=A0 I fin= d Keylight crashes constantly with AE 2017, which is why I have been trying= alternatives.

Primatte works in a totally different way to Keylight, so they are likely t= o give different results with different footage.=C2=A0 Keylight is a differ= ence keyer, and works by looking at the difference between the Red, Green &= amp; Blue channels.=C2=A0 A more advanced version of putting a green solid = on top of your footage and choosing the difference blending mode.=C2=A0 Thi= s is why it only really works with green or blue screens.

Primatte is an advanced linear keyer, although I recall their marketing usi= ng the term 3D keyer (maybe I=E2=80=99m remembering incorrectly).=C2=A0 Bas= ically, imagine an RGB value plotted on a graph as an X,Y,Z co-ordinate.=C2= =A0 Every colour will have a different position in a cube where the axis ar= e represented by R,G,B values.=C2=A0 Primatte compares the position of each= pixel with the position of the main key colour, as if they are co-ordinate= s in 3D space, and uses the distance and direction to calculate if the pixe= l is transparent or not.

Always fun to discover what=E2=80=99s happening under the hood=E2=80=A6

-Chris




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