From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-io0-f173.google.com ([209.85.223.173] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6360767 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:44:33 +0100 Received: by mail-io0-f173.google.com with SMTP id w127so27138902iow.11 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Bc24T8Y5oz+rSLj9Sr1O+pdzTcn6TumTJAsl3eNcAcA=; b=pP3uV1fqu83jjchhnBm/qW44+xcNHj3O9v4UUGK6poehLa/GyWiegSTITXnZO1W/Qa lCakuQ6v2wL7Ie3XyyBmZKPM8wyyS1S3Y/pl82RM3SiCSKbrrgnb6jnPOHrJFN1UgcdO RoTiWDfJFo4i2X4FA733zNTQJ7RHibqLMR/Mf9TPLUT8SjZmWniqzNeAZzYhQYddTD0w 9/zFiGnIaX7ePV+JYvhTglctbkNrN8erafqu69ud03AeEImMNCc8ixLvwMpVgAkZOaFd 4mI34flW2NbQ7R3TE3qdvHvqRSbmwDtxRhE+NIHgPgtpFLvYSpD/aDM+x28QQtO8Y7L4 eSbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Bc24T8Y5oz+rSLj9Sr1O+pdzTcn6TumTJAsl3eNcAcA=; b=KCmc5P8CEC7UIfiJlkAxtkextUbsNKmWuo+/jYMrCh04YaRIL0W8v/4jug7WL1o/Tt uBbjy2Pto3IWEoWmx6exSCGsYmd3nn53TLG3KnmLKAmcrI1kujyp3hWuD56vtW8LAxM8 LkGyaXVzZqLeG5YKq2N+RTh/a7o7LvcWzMGkDrM/0drmZAnWgP+/pKshjQ1nYERx6xKn 5zRYGJBDolM1XyxDbZTwXamStm06cCAbz+dst63POmDXC7btzrniQzfB09MzSVmoEOqY esjGtS96mKRBhqFUo2ek6sLnMAioQwZTAwIDtBVZ6TSs+OGJGQhrx6zG9TYXKU65Jefz Fd0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4c71AvL6R9MGWrabycd/SxyAnWZHhwkkHydDmXWL56TMxbK8yS zwDZAGY68UkyCH2VOJofxp0aAYQ4Wn6yiihrjLg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZzLB+yUXWkTQ+vX1+7SBsRZsfrJ8IJDCfU3KRYUPbMq/KaL3TDOx8zm3ZcPcr4AirV+6PaN9orJjqQ5GqI0kk= X-Received: by 10.107.7.169 with SMTP id g41mr28943448ioi.38.1511455683702; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:48:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.168.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:47:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:47:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Primatte Keyer To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113ec53c1ef404055ea933e2" --001a113ec53c1ef404055ea933e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep, that'll do it every time. Wrong version. All good now. Checking it out. Thanks Eric On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > I'm thinking I downloaded the wrong version. > > Not even sure what OFX is. lol Running Adobe, Win 64bit next. > > Eric > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < > AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: > >> All, >> >> Ok, I'm looking around. Just a couple things. The download file it sen= t >> me to was for this file: Continuum_OFX_11_0_1_Win.exe I presume this i= s >> correct? >> >> I went to install, it prompted me for the registration key but did not >> offer me a choice on the location. It did offer to remove any unlicense= d >> products, which to my knowledge, I have none. >> >> Where is the common located and where do you suppose it installed it to >> relocate manually if I need? >> >> Thanks, >> Eric >> >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Ross Shain >> wrote: >> >>> Check BCC Keys folder. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Peter, >>> >>> I made the purchase of Primatte Keyer, studio, whatever it's called. >>> lol But I can't find it in my effects panel after installing and >>> registering. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Peter McAuley >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think you'll really enjoy working with the Primatte Studio keyer - >>>> should you need any assistance understanding any of the features pleas= e >>>> feel free to contact me directly. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Peter. >>>> >>>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Tons of great comments here. I also noticed reference to 3D. I'll be >>>> buying the Boris Keying suite. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Teddy Gage >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have been using Fusion Studio 9 and the keying is top notch. The ne= w >>>>> Delta keyer is fantastic, and you can combine with ultimatte (their v= ersion >>>>> of primatte) >>>>> >>>>> The trick to keying is always using multiple keys and combine. It's >>>>> rare one key will solve every corner of your screen >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 7:28 PM Chris Zwar >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 22 Nov 2017, at 8:15 am, Jim Curtis >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have only demo-ed Primatte, and am no expert on it, but I can sa= y >>>>>> a couple of things: The price from RG was so steep as to deter me f= rom >>>>>> buying it, and Keylight, created by The Foundry is native in Ae and = is a >>>>>> very good keying plug-in. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > IMO, it=E2=80=99s worth taking the time to learn Keylight by watch= ing a few >>>>>> advanced tutorials. It may be all you need. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have often contemplated writing an article that looks at how >>>>>> different keying plugins work, there are a few basic approaches. Ke= ylight >>>>>> is my go-to plugin because it comes with AE, however the last time I= had to >>>>>> do keying I was very surprised to discover that I got better results= with >>>>>> the old AE 8-bit =E2=80=9CColor Range=E2=80=9D keyer than with Keyli= ght. Go figure=E2=80=A6 I will >>>>>> experiment more with this in the future. I find Keylight crashes >>>>>> constantly with AE 2017, which is why I have been trying alternative= s. >>>>>> >>>>>> Primatte works in a totally different way to Keylight, so they are >>>>>> likely to give different results with different footage. Keylight i= s a >>>>>> difference keyer, and works by looking at the difference between the= Red, >>>>>> Green & Blue channels. A more advanced version of putting a green s= olid on >>>>>> top of your footage and choosing the difference blending mode. This= is why >>>>>> it only really works with green or blue screens. >>>>>> >>>>>> Primatte is an advanced linear keyer, although I recall their >>>>>> marketing using the term 3D keyer (maybe I=E2=80=99m remembering inc= orrectly). >>>>>> Basically, imagine an RGB value plotted on a graph as an X,Y,Z >>>>>> co-ordinate. Every colour will have a different position in a cube = where >>>>>> the axis are represented by R,G,B values. Primatte compares the pos= ition >>>>>> of each pixel with the position of the main key colour, as if they a= re >>>>>> co-ordinates in 3D space, and uses the distance and direction to cal= culate >>>>>> if the pixel is transparent or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Always fun to discover what=E2=80=99s happening under the hood=E2=80= =A6 >>>>>> >>>>>> -Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _____________________________ >>>>> Teddy Gage >>>>> President >>>>> Shotgun Inc. >>>>> 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX >>>>> SHOTGUNPOST.COM >>>>> BKLYN NY 11215 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >>>> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirke= ric >>>> IMDB: >>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >>> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirker= ic >>> IMDB: >>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeri= c >> IMDB: >> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >> >> > > > > -- > > > *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk > Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric > IMDB: > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ = * > > --=20 *Eric D. 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Yep, that'll do it every time.=C2=A0 Wrong version.=C2= =A0 All good now.=C2=A0 Checking it out.

Thanks
Eric

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <<= a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv" target=3D"_blank">AE-List@media-m= otion.tv> wrote:
I'm thinking I downloaded the wrong version.

Not even sure what OFX is. lol=C2=A0 Running Adobe, Win 64bit next.
=

Eric

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@= media-motion.tv> wrote:
All,

Ok, I'm looking around.=C2=A0 Jus= t a couple things.=C2=A0 The download file it sent me to was for this file:= =C2=A0 Continuum_OFX_11_0_1_Win.exe=C2=A0 I presume this is correct?
<= div>
I went to install, it prompted me for the registration k= ey but did not offer me a choice on the location.=C2=A0 It did offer to rem= ove any unlicensed products, which to my knowledge, I have none.
=
Where is the common located and where do you suppose it inst= alled it to relocate manually if I need?

Thanks,Eric

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Ross Shain <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:
Check BCC Keys folder.=C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 23, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrot= e:

Hey Peter,<= div>
I made the purchase of Primatte Keyer, studio, whatever = it's called. lol=C2=A0 But I can't find it in my effects panel afte= r installing and registering.

Eric

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 = at 9:07 AM, Peter McAuley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wr= ote:
I = think you'll really enjoy working with the Primatte Studio keyer - shou= ld you need any assistance understanding any of the features please feel fr= ee to contact me directly.=C2=A0

Cheers,

Peter.=C2=A0

On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Mr.= Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Tons of great comments here.=C2=A0 I also= noticed reference to 3D.=C2=A0 I'll be buying the Boris Keying suite.<= /div>

Eric

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I have been using Fusion Studio 9 and the keyi= ng is top notch. The new Delta keyer is fantastic, and you can combine with= ultimatte (their version of primatte)

The trick to keying is always using multiple keys and combin= e. It's rare one key will solve every corner of your screen=C2=A0
=
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 7:28 PM Chris Z= war <AE-Lis= t@media-motion.tv> wrote:
On 22 Nov 2017, = at 8:15 am, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> I have only demo-ed Primatte, and am no expert on it, but I can say a = couple of things:=C2=A0 The price from RG was so steep as to deter me from = buying it, and Keylight, created by The Foundry is native in Ae and is a ve= ry good keying plug-in.
>
> IMO, it=E2=80=99s worth taking the time to learn Keylight by watching = a few advanced tutorials.=C2=A0 It may be all you need.

I have often contemplated writing an article that looks at how different ke= ying plugins work, there are a few basic approaches.=C2=A0 Keylight is my g= o-to plugin because it comes with AE, however the last time I had to do key= ing I was very surprised to discover that I got better results with the old= AE 8-bit =E2=80=9CColor Range=E2=80=9D keyer than with Keylight.=C2=A0 Go = figure=E2=80=A6 I will experiment more with this in the future.=C2=A0 I fin= d Keylight crashes constantly with AE 2017, which is why I have been trying= alternatives.

Primatte works in a totally different way to Keylight, so they are likely t= o give different results with different footage.=C2=A0 Keylight is a differ= ence keyer, and works by looking at the difference between the Red, Green &= amp; Blue channels.=C2=A0 A more advanced version of putting a green solid = on top of your footage and choosing the difference blending mode.=C2=A0 Thi= s is why it only really works with green or blue screens.

Primatte is an advanced linear keyer, although I recall their marketing usi= ng the term 3D keyer (maybe I=E2=80=99m remembering incorrectly).=C2=A0 Bas= ically, imagine an RGB value plotted on a graph as an X,Y,Z co-ordinate.=C2= =A0 Every colour will have a different position in a cube where the axis ar= e represented by R,G,B values.=C2=A0 Primatte compares the position of each= pixel with the position of the main key colour, as if they are co-ordinate= s in 3D space, and uses the distance and direction to calculate if the pixe= l is transparent or not.

Always fun to discover what=E2=80=99s happening under the hood=E2=80=A6

-Chris




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