From: "David Torno" Received: from atl4mhob12.registeredsite.com ([209.17.115.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6369558 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:35:41 +0100 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.208]) by atl4mhob12.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id vBBIdk1L016379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:39:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 27980 invoked by uid 0); 11 Dec 2017 18:39:46 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 96.39.226.10 X-Authenticated-UID: torno@sydefxink.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.1.16?) (torno@sydefxink.com@96.39.226.10) by 0 with ESMTPA; 11 Dec 2017 18:39:46 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-FB16EE37-18E2-4332-BF11-A08198A0C550 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:39:44 -0800 Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) for those of you Mac folks looking to take the jumptoPCland. - codec question Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14A456) --Apple-Mail-FB16EE37-18E2-4332-BF11-A08198A0C550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Correct, ProRes by nature is lossy. Even the top tier option of 444. Even th= ough your eyes may not see it, there's no way of shrinking file size without= removing something. Also people have a tendency to believe a codec is the same across OS platfor= ms and even between softwares on the same OS. Wrong. Each developer has set t= heir own preferences for said codec when implementing them. They also expose= only certain options for the user to tweak, sometimes. There is the codec creator spec, then there are the developer implementation= s. All those settings people don't like to mess with, well those are there f= or a reason to control your output. Unfortunately they can be difficult to u= nderstand for the layperson so presets are offered by most apps. Guess how w= ell those presets match at the core level. They don't. :) So the fantasy of finding that one great codec doesn't technically exist bec= ause of those variables, but most ignore this information or refuse to belie= ve it's true. Just saying. ;) David Torno 818.391.6060 -------------------- www.sydefxink.com (work history) https://vimeo.com/davidtorno (work samples & breakdowns) https://gumroad.com/davidtorno http://provideocoalition.com/dtorno (tutorials) "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field > On Dec 11, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Brian Higgins wrote= : >=20 > I don't think there is one, but there isn't a lossless ProRes codec that I= 'm aware of, either. --Apple-Mail-FB16EE37-18E2-4332-BF11-A08198A0C550 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Correct, ProRes by nature is lossy. Ev= en the top tier option of 444. Even though your eyes may not see it, there's= no way of shrinking file size without removing something.

Also people have= a tendency to believe a codec is the same across OS platforms and even betw= een softwares on the same OS. Wrong. Each developer has set their own prefer= ences for said codec when implementing them. They also expose only certain o= ptions for the user to tweak, sometimes.

There is the codec creator spec, t= hen there are the developer implementations. All those settings people don't= like to mess with, well those are there for a reason to control your output= . Unfortunately they can be difficult to understand for the layperson so pre= sets are offered by most apps. Guess how well those presets match at the cor= e level. They don't. :)

So the fantasy of finding that one great codec does= n't technically exist because of those variables, but most ignore this infor= mation or refuse to believe it's true.
<= br>
Just saying. ;)


David Torno
818.391.6060
-------------= -------
www.sydefxink.com= (work history)
https://vimeo.com/davidtorn= o (work samples & breakdowns)

"The most usel= ess day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Dec 11, 2017, a= t 9:55 AM, Brian Higgins <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I don't think there is one, but there isn't a lossless ProRes codec that I= 'm aware of, either.
= --Apple-Mail-FB16EE37-18E2-4332-BF11-A08198A0C550--