From: "Byron Nash" Received: from mail-qt0-f175.google.com ([209.85.216.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6369576 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:05:34 +0100 Received: by mail-qt0-f175.google.com with SMTP id g9so41766587qth.9 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:09:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=gqgf/ScyxUU/dpg+4jai9jDC6mYbo04U/guo6OkJUVc=; b=K6s9iYFIymbAMXZp98ldDRKiudvIU2DY8YrISXg7EPwR9Z9t1bpVslSvcTFHURAH3g CVSvDJ3e2r3TAXPQMZJx5TfvEfVDklxcKXIcrYxdss1ye6CYDc8RL4qh7GUVVijZozBa xttsrNGUXk5QIOYNkHOVzWovON4xiCuiLnEKu5MYJWWoRMmYmJWNNLSrX4o7T36hdNPV paMmRlYs0AUWztkOrW7f6CBCqmDYHulfyuyelTN7hFxIvumY1jd4K7yWelpZT72V1d5F k8qLPt3Fo5L+zynoaMI3Mhz9nUo7fO+AuD7EHjXJzYZS3Y2jX4IbicARjNDy1y53un66 aXrA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=gqgf/ScyxUU/dpg+4jai9jDC6mYbo04U/guo6OkJUVc=; b=HcYWluVw5GfEXRLYv/h8DogmXEFa0QdxtXoG2agTNcEPrahzStDmAo2p+11mG+9b/G pGMx/uw4ZEJqMyLnfEHIpPrEnRLtwx/nqFExxYjkYlO6gwIbBMLRu/RSNzVlnfeVRB9w k58izlVgvHfuntie01JwYRSQ5g1NMFuBkaqKU/7UoZ5q3Dr2trGaLpDfDavaTyUKJkwg FkD7/f3LhcuGWZkDrtui85n5rijZy0MskGCgFQytXlgYcD9Zu9rydudD5YnXl7XuHdze KS+epdnaXEG7qHbCYRlS0ZvbSrErtwXZCCVvPq03vBaAyB6ncDqL32ImOSxVxtFOYWPj 8OHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJRooRUcs0EOhKkc0v45cIq35RcUyP3g66/YxoUlMKtGzcG55rB 0il5KcBcA6Y5Uvax06Nq+lFsnyqmm4bb325oLPI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBot//UInCHkyyUUDRKWtqo+Vek/2krTSD78Lr5pUgW4mdPDEA9q+U+b3+oFH3S8A7+y09L5RTrjuSLRP4ysMMCA= X-Received: by 10.237.33.248 with SMTP id m53mr2283096qtc.39.1513022981173; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:09:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 20:09:30 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) for those of you Mac folks looking to take the jumptoPCland. - codec question To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113779765476af0560161d12" --001a113779765476af0560161d12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm also using AfterCodecs and have been very happy with it. It allows me to fit into a ProRes pipeline without creating much of a ruckus. The developer is also pretty proactive about making changes and improvements. It doesn't help much though if you need to edit. I'm not an editor though. On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:04 PM Robert W. Walker wrote: > I've just been experimenting with ProRes, DNxHR, DNxHD, 10-bit, 8-bit, > etc in various combinations. (All on a Mac while waiting for the PC). > The differences are obvious on a scope, on the eyes not so much. I will > say that DNxHR 444 RGB 10-bit is extremely clean though the highlights > that hit 100 IRE in ProRes appear to peak at about 98, maybe 99. > > Robert W. Walker > WalkerSound > Walker/Fitzgibbon TV & Film > Los Angeles CA USA > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) for those of you Mac folks looking to take the > > jumptoPCland. - codec question > > From: "David Torno" > > Date: Mon, December 11, 2017 1:39 pm > > To: "After Effects Mail List" > > > > > > Correct, ProRes by nature is lossy. Even the top tier option of 444. > Even though your eyes may not see it, there's no way of shrinking file size > without removing something. > > > > Also people have a tendency to believe a codec is the same across OS > platforms and even between softwares on the same OS. Wrong. Each developer > has set their own preferences for said codec when implementing them. They > also expose only certain options for the user to tweak, sometimes. > > > > There is the codec creator spec, then there are the developer > implementations. All those settings people don't like to mess with, well > those are there for a reason to control your output. Unfortunately they can > be difficult to understand for the layperson so presets are offered by most > apps. Guess how well those presets match at the core level. They don't. :) > > > > So the fantasy of finding that one great codec doesn't technically exist > because of those variables, but most ignore this information or refuse to > believe it's true. > > > > Just saying. ;) > > > > > > David Torno > > 818.391.6060 <(818)%20391-6060> > > -------------------- > > www.sydefxink.com (work history) > > https://vimeo.com/davidtorno (work samples & breakdowns) > > https://gumroad.com/davidtorno > > http://provideocoalition.com/dtorno (tutorials) > > > > "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" > > -Charles Field > > > > > On Dec 11, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Brian Higgins > wrote: > > > > > > I don't think there is one, but there isn't a lossless ProRes codec > that I'm aware of, either. > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --001a113779765476af0560161d12 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm also using AfterCodecs and have been very happy wi= th it. It allows me to fit into a ProRes pipeline without creating much of = a ruckus. The developer is also pretty proactive about making changes and i= mprovements. It doesn't help much though if you need to edit. I'm n= ot an editor though.

O= n Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:04 PM Robert W. Walker <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I've just been experimenting with ProRes, DNxHR= , DNxHD, 10-bit, 8-bit,
etc in various combinations. (All on a Mac while waiting for the PC).
The differences are obvious on a scope, on the eyes not so much. I will
say that DNxHR 444 RGB 10-bit is extremely clean though the highlights
that hit 100 IRE in ProRes appear to peak at about 98, maybe 99.

Robert W. Walker
WalkerSound
Walker/Fitzgibbon TV & Film
Los Angeles CA USA

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [AE] (OT) for those of you Mac folks looking to take the<= br> > jumptoPCland. - codec question
> From: "David Torno" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
> Date: Mon, December 11, 2017 1:39 pm
> To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
>
>
> Correct, ProRes by nature is lossy. Even the top tier option of 444. E= ven though your eyes may not see it, there's no way of shrinking file s= ize without removing something.
>
> Also people have a tendency to believe a codec is the same across OS p= latforms and even between softwares on the same OS. Wrong. Each developer h= as set their own preferences for said codec when implementing them. They al= so expose only certain options for the user to tweak, sometimes.
>
> There is the codec creator spec, then there are the developer implemen= tations. All those settings people don't like to mess with, well those = are there for a reason to control your output. Unfortunately they can be di= fficult to understand for the layperson so presets are offered by most apps= . Guess how well those presets match at the core level. They don't. :)<= br> >
> So the fantasy of finding that one great codec doesn't technically= exist because of those variables, but most ignore this information or refu= se to believe it's true.
>
> Just saying. ;)
>
>
> David Torno
> 818.391.6060
> --------------------
> www.sydefxink.com (work history)
> https://vimeo.com/davidtorno (work samples & breakdowns) > https://gumroad.com/davidtorno
> http://provideocoalition.com/dtorno (tutorials)
>
> "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"
> -Charles Field
>
> > On Dec 11, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Brian Higgins <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
> >
> > I don't think there is one, but there isn't a lossless Pr= oRes codec that I'm aware of, either.

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