From: "StanMtn on ATT" Received: from sonic306-24.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.189.86] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTP id 6370516 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:42:18 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1513190789; bh=1aLMylfSGTptLYsbxmXJvwkPWThChjAngNdiDo7FEu4=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=kvYt/0Iv9BTgDkGSLYnqJe9kVAXE77vF9ekf2zBZjAjv0HY646g99xSdkCih4BlNEbzNdaGW62IBpJu2SOA3UuuoWLqL3K+6NasmwkCoSdz2VChw1v04AhWjFX9+G2K/vgc+5nmqs8haJPtUP9ro89ZuSbc3aqiJxmPYfBmo0Wk= X-YMail-OSG: pulP.c4VM1nue7dSrpWwKNZ1Y3JLGNs15dHJRRppxPiPguDvmybhtermzoxwGEM q99md7AH0pOK7uS7Hl2lElI2Fzc7hh0U9EswjeF7dqE25kDWeRZRE1h7YONKuN744.CWXQXOu_au KuFZSVT2LOnz2dby1zU5aylErRg4naUZKS71gqX2qFCAwqeTYd2pxGilf6qMFfW2oH0mimprpy5K JjZ4sMfTV8DZAYqkg_M4uR8ziIUO3F6HxjU7wbgtHaCJjhGbJW6_s1aAL0lDpkWK82MkXjp40ZSg PQSlGVyqlXxkS5pwRs2haxPPKY3z6Py0ytPi8o0gUG8efVsbk.ogTUQi8ng7BLrIsrJVQXG_3RF7 FkcWbkThVq8ffayhBave7tlB2elTVklmTHNbQzrYIPtRvjyuz_oZqk6UHI5YW1xUYYWxrBFrg2P6 emzierxy46RDCHVMRXHocvMbe3fa7c9ENRmHWAbOhLWL1be9N2bg4.RjaxGhrDd9RBpAMJGK2ZfF iXwypnxxyiynXQA6FUxU- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 18:46:29 +0000 Received: from smtp103.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (EHLO deepro) ([98.138.84.214]) by smtp405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID -1358593320 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2017 18:46:27 +0000 (UTC) To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] AME 2014 & 2015 missing??? Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: <012501d37442$afb00b90$0f1022b0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0126_01D37418.C6DA0390" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdN0QFgtV+xa25+WQCmIp8sD+SuQTAAATeOQ Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0126_01D37418.C6DA0390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, not routine deprecation. More problematic than that=E2=80=A6. =20 This is part of the Adobe move to using OS support for decoding Dolby, = and removing support for encoding. And probably part of Dolby keeping = its market after the patent expired. I think the changes are driven by = legal/licensing (=3D$) issues. =20 PR CC 2017 was modified (from 11.1.2 to 11.1.4) so the one you now = install has no Dolby encoding or decoding provided. Decoding is okay if = you have a newer OS (but not Win7, for example). =20 Lots of threads on the Adobe forums=E2=80=A6. =20 See this post in particular: =20 https://forums.adobe.com/message/10035982#10035982 =20 Stan Jones =20 From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:29 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] AME 2014 & 2015 missing??? =20 Hmmm, interesting. Maybe they are finally pulling old versions. I know = it auto downloaded when I had installed AE on my PC. David Torno 818.391.6060 -------------------- www.sydefxink.com (work history) https://vimeo.com/davidtorno (work samples & breakdowns) https://gumroad.com/davidtorno http://provideocoalition.com/dtorno (tutorials) =20 "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: Nope, not AME =E2=80=93 only 2017 is choice on new box. Old box has = theme listed. Reeks of deprecation. But AME 2017/2018 don=E2=80=99t = render my film projects.=20 =20 Best,=20 =20 stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 =20 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ =20 A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick =20 From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:58 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] AME 2014 & 2015 missing??? =20 They usually are buried deep in the installer window. The little arrow = on the right side should allow to to show legacy or old versions. I did = this on my PC not too long ago and even got CS6 installed this way. David Torno 818.391.6060 -------------------- www.sydefxink.com (work history) https://vimeo.com/davidtorno (work samples & breakdowns) https://gumroad.com/davidtorno http://provideocoalition.com/dtorno (tutorials) =20 "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field On Dec 13, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: Setting up brand new machine Win 10 64, did load of apps and I run AE = 2014-2018. However, AME 2017 and 2018 are the only installs. AE 2014 and = 2015 give dynamic link error when attempting to render. Standalone = installers I found via google won't run. Uninstalling AME and AE and = just installing AE 2014 and AE 2015 no love either. =20 It appears Adobe is blocking access to these apps on clean install or = very weird bug. Please tell me there is some way to hack an install of = them as I use AE 2014 and 2015 heavily still. =20 Best,=20 =20 stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 =20 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ =20 A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick ------=_NextPart_000_0126_01D37418.C6DA0390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, not routine deprecation. More problematic = than that=E2=80=A6.

 

This is part of the = Adobe move to using OS support for decoding Dolby, and removing support = for encoding. And probably part of Dolby keeping its market after the = patent expired. I think the changes are driven by legal/licensing (=3D$) = issues.

 

PR CC 2017 was modified = (from 11.1.2 to 11.1.4) so the one you now install has no Dolby encoding = or decoding provided. Decoding is okay if you have a newer OS (but not = Win7, for example).

 

Lots of threads on the = Adobe forums=E2=80=A6.

 

See this post in = particular:

 

https://forum= s.adobe.com/message/10035982#10035982

 

Stan = Jones

 

From:= = After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] =
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:29 PM
To: = After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] AME 2014 & 2015 = missing???

 

Hmmm, = interesting. Maybe they are finally pulling old versions. I know it auto = downloaded when I had installed AE on my PC.

David = Torno

818.391.6060

--------------------

www.sydefxink.com (work = history)

https://vimeo.com/davidtorno = (work samples & breakdowns)

 

"The most = useless day is that in which we do not = laugh"

-Charles = Field


On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Stephen = van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Nope, not AME =E2=80=93 only 2017 is choice on new = box. Old box has theme listed. Reeks of deprecation. But AME 2017/2018 = don=E2=80=99t render my film projects.

 

Best,

 

stephen van = vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/

 

A film is =E2=80=93 or = should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should be a = progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the = emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

=E2=80=93Stanley = Kubrick

 

 

They = usually are buried deep in the installer window. The little arrow on the = right side should allow to to show legacy or old versions. I did this on = my PC not too long ago and even got CS6 installed this way.

David = Torno

818.391.6060

--------------------

www.sydefxink.com (work = history)

https://vimeo.com/davidtorno = (work samples & breakdowns)

 

"The most = useless day is that in which we do not = laugh"

-Charles = Field


On Dec 13, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Stephen = van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Setting up brand new machine Win 10 64, did load of = apps and I run AE 2014-2018. However, AME 2017 and 2018 are the only = installs. AE 2014 and 2015 give dynamic link error when attempting to = render. Standalone installers I found via google won't run. Uninstalling = AME and AE and just installing  AE 2014 and AE 2015 no love = either.

 

It appears Adobe is blocking access to these apps on = clean install or very weird bug. Please tell me there is some way to = hack an install of them as I use AE 2014 and 2015 heavily = still.

 

Best,

 

stephen van = vuuren

336.202.4777

 

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/

 

A film is =E2=80=93 or = should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should be a = progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the = emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

=E2=80=93Stanley = Kubrick

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