From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pl0-f65.google.com ([209.85.160.65] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6372612 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:49:18 +0100 Received: by mail-pl0-f65.google.com with SMTP id 1so2623144plv.0 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 19:53:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=OUblexd2T4DaM29Hni4d2AAHN40krgD0L07j05OmGZk=; b=AkozYQrnCDw6nww6dj24iiloAbMe1vVueZf81HLLjtw7E0Mla6tPCiZm1/w9RDCkky uPvXumHcS7yVev4mOx6APKubiUiknJsTfK5TtdGZnmwULXvF91dDW2/jO/oyzUKLa7QV yjE2Lzs+5+kTybSxhObukGvi8fXFd8hZ1WFwV0QJgXtrQkWhgYTLBqKVjGQgRPvz6c+t zENfS3E0NdjQUUhxfRZWuG/cO/miJ6Vkqw7jBkvZVrAbGnCxBWY1/qbguv8N4v4blELY tuDikBKbXPJRq6ewdt3EZDJLE9akoEwcUszb55TasletcWWVknOTArxKjAU1Tqk0J9wY y44Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=OUblexd2T4DaM29Hni4d2AAHN40krgD0L07j05OmGZk=; b=CSxQnbt4J8ZdHE4nAkfOdxPFnhZVavbkMkjq5z7Jvh94LCDLBzE5Rx8u75pywQN3pP 4kzfOtwEWjzrtd+f7W4/CfjsDIprYz09VP4q5NNfs+QNuzIzaYorMUUghScRk/IhmYr6 +l8mic7JdMN0xm4+iCpSKviZo22pLJlgTUSZ5FW4eKzzJuaGJBsbOAEFzYYxhSH7pZNv CPPcoOuUiHYYbfdgTDJ5WPONcY3nIamHbK6L7NRYeoHrsoBJ/+8H+LOmAA1A574anwm0 52nQZXwyV9PQSC6DBy4ayc0tPLycVf5YSvDz4asTwYjGgz/sUhSx1XBCozIBRJF8zCjy FxWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mK4+rATtBqSr1wC8UsrTcGcEdCa5ETZiijBnSSy5+AeBTbUK2Xe 2efHA6+xSRC9q8LX/B+ov87DvyDo06Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBouqc/Oz3BfkaMziXq0fFD0yzsiNGxUiSuEvscP9IidK0olg3aKNz2tL2rxHtWThaSGxZ83lkw== X-Received: by 10.84.172.195 with SMTP id n61mr20486731plb.78.1513569217471; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 19:53:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.167] (CPE-144-132-194-22.nsw.bigpond.net.au. [144.132.194.22]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o63sm22072239pfg.101.2017.12.17.19.53.35 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Dec 2017 19:53:36 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9E16E03C-FF0B-441E-A686-44A635B1C579" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Ae and Pr color values read-out. Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 14:53:32 +1100 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <8CDFEE4B-E3E7-4EBE-B719-45A38EB361A1@chriszwar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) --Apple-Mail=_9E16E03C-FF0B-441E-A686-44A635B1C579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99m not a Premiere expert at all, but as it=E2=80=99s a video = editing program perhaps it=E2=80=99s not designed to work in RGB = colourspace. If the underlying engine works with YUV or whatever then = RGB values will involve some conversions and clipping due to gamut = differences. If Premiere does/can work in RGB space then hopefully = someone with more knowledge will clarify. > On 18 Dec 2017, at 7:14 am, Jonathan wrote: >=20 > Hi, Roel. Yes, I use the scopes for luminance values, to see where I = am on that scale, but what I have in mind is being able to know the RGB = values from the shadows through the highlights. I have a pretty = well-tuned monitoring, but the RGB values are essential. Or am I missing = something? >=20 > Jonathan >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 16, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Roei Tzoref > wrote: >>=20 >> the lumetri scopes will tell you the information you need: = https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/color-workflows.html = >>=20 >> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Jonathan > wrote: >> Thanks, guys. I=E2=80=99ll make the request and give your suggestions = a shot. >>=20 >> How are you supposed to color correct without knowing whether black = is black, gray is gray and white is white? >>=20 >> Jonathan Penzner >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 8:21 AM, Jim Curtis > wrote: >>>=20 >>> I have a workaround: >>>=20 >>> Apply the Tint effect and use the eyedropper to sample your value = (or two, using both boxes). =46rom there, you have a couple of options: >>>=20 >>> 1 - copy the Tint effect and paste it elsewhere, disable the FX = button while keeping the color rectangles revealed, and use the color = box to do another eyedropper sample >>>=20 >>> 2 - after eyedropping the color, click the color rectangle box and = copy the Hex value (#), and paste that into your destination color value >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> If I have a color palette to use throughout a sequence, I=E2=80=99ll = make a PNG of it in Ae, import into Pr, and load that into the Source = monitor placed next to the Effect Controls for eyedropping. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Roei Tzoref > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> actually no. strange isn't it? >>>>=20 >>>> please ask for it = here and I will do the = same:=20 >>>>=20 >>>> here's a free tool I found that will give you RGB readouts and has = a small footprint >>>> http://www.nattyware.com/pixie.php = >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Jonathan > wrote: >>>> Hey, gang. >>>>=20 >>>> Sort of off-topic: In Ae I can see the RGB values in t6he info box = by simply by moving the pointing device over the footage. Is there = anything like that in Premiere? Or do I have to use Resolve or Avid to = get this kind of feedback? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>>=20 >>>> Jonathan Penzner >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to > >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_9E16E03C-FF0B-441E-A686-44A635B1C579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80= =99m not a Premiere expert at all, but as it=E2=80=99s a video editing = program perhaps it=E2=80=99s not designed to work in RGB colourspace. =  If the underlying engine works with YUV or whatever then RGB = values will involve some conversions and clipping due to gamut = differences.  If Premiere does/can work in RGB space then hopefully = someone with more knowledge will clarify.

On 18 = Dec 2017, at 7:14 am, Jonathan <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi, Roel. Yes, I use the scopes for luminance values, to see = where I am on that scale, but what I have in mind is being able to know = the RGB values from the shadows through the highlights. I have a pretty = well-tuned monitoring, but the RGB values are essential. Or am I missing = something?

Jonathan


On Dec 16, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

the lumetri scopes will tell you the information you = need: https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/color-workflows.html=

On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Jonathan <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
Thanks, guys. = I=E2=80=99ll make the request and give your suggestions a = shot.

How are = you supposed to color correct without knowing whether black is black, = gray is gray and white is white?

Jonathan Penzner


On Dec 16, 2017, at 8:21 AM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I have a = workaround:

Apply = the Tint effect and use the eyedropper to sample your value (or two, = using both boxes).  =46rom there, you have a couple of = options:

1 - = copy the Tint effect and paste it elsewhere, disable the FX button while = keeping the color rectangles revealed, and use the color box to do = another eyedropper sample

2 - after eyedropping the color, click the color rectangle = box and copy the Hex value (#), and paste that into your destination = color value


If I have a color = palette to use throughout a sequence, I=E2=80=99ll make a PNG of it in = Ae, import into Pr, and load that into the Source monitor placed next to = the Effect Controls for eyedropping.




On Dec = 16, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

actually no. strange isn't = it?

please ask for it here and I will do the same: 

here's a = free tool I found that will give you RGB readouts and has a small = footprint
http://www.nattyware.com/pixie.php

On Fri, = Dec 15, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Jonathan <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hey, gang.

Sort of off-topic: In Ae I can see the RGB values in t6he info box by = simply by moving the pointing device over the footage. Is there anything = like that in Premiere? Or do I have to use Resolve or Avid to get this = kind of feedback?

Thanks,

Jonathan Penzner
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