From: "Steve Oakley" Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.196] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6391199 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:14:33 +0100 Received: from [10.1.1.102] ([71.87.57.30]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus001 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LsS1m-1enk0S2joe-011tFQ for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:17:08 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Premiere/AE/Audition and the missing Dolby audio decoder Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:17:07 -0600 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:MshePw13XaLs8n1LV4+HM9VqNkDX0EqZOoDdUwaESTu44zMHolH skL2Hj5MivFjq12ISQznuW9567ntHkakPkgxxWnoinj0dLi/ydsiaBVtOX+OJdE/wQh8mfI VRFT3+7AjpGo/JkyQFlWmk4Dzs4wjL/+jbAyVRcJHBhkPaeOFV6vogT+O+VXmfAkZVnIsrB xXXV/f7AEshnoFyGCTorw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:5EtyEpHXH4w=:+M1z3Aiu9pRhAmW0sQTsMG Y/ZIoRAeYM1eeEApUJSIXoZtRFmxnrNUNkD2WUWiHuMrDmjbPU6P28kOxBne0se5RWH6R3L8h fZBwlxumpOaDC+bS8KiKyjKVBn6gWvHyBbOvkSKSPW52nJZ2HZvnWQIT8Wdx7q8BNftUEwxga 3lwG3iMms2KXVrRuOJxqCi9k0j9V0omwkLYhoLh0FcESujTAg9M2JJuoRlrmnDcBfJkB7EOFM JVldIUBbiNfB+3HAauztl90XhSIX0mMOT7Dr4jGtTAokwyz2uyhaxH4eTJOkh38u6YQ2Lz6Ae 7GffGHxe4NRpFjGuBpYIk21X5gQWvWPmWWdOn8JZnhaT5pjH8+DUnlTDPkKTkB/SJwlRdM503 wejTde8rvSG94N3DP+YpNjhvq1jKU0yqTWjYXpvEVPHMTNIUTfRbmsIjt3r90fp83oaJaLDsu wnP/SvysROwLQyTlpAYuPZEW8Vq5ZqO6J46cP/J4nN55rwkAG+6ff15tFIAJV7SF5qLJBwxpj ImQUSzz1ZoyNdC9FZGx0AVLIyrRbwdYyK9Yk05gcgdn+6Cw3xjh+MNAEPaN1CA71htNeGTe+D VSsMb3PhKyvgu9zAAeeD9ycNsZ9MC3EgzaDmZSB8dzdVwXkzN2zoS+OWE9OZrTfj/wfBSe8E5 uGFyqPOrkAEI3GDfiT73FegTTSUBqxX+iU02dQTyY8oONi28pxMGx3Tvk9I+L4Yr3c+g4KO3b DZtw/0eHOxr+D9NXCfewdqoWeiwqqrChikt0YHeMhfqY6SAB+9YN9JRu5JE= so if you have them, leave them installed. Me, well I completed a multi = machine removal of the old apps and all the hubris the installers fail = to remove. OTH I installed CS6 just because=E2=80=A6=20 S > On Jan 19, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: >=20 >> as for the loss of the old installs, I think they should patch the = app / installers to work w/o the dolby encoder. >=20 > They should 100% due this as 2017/2018 especially AME have yet = unsolved bugs. There is quite a thread about this on Adobe Forums but it = appears Adobe is disinclined to this despite the fact it's causing a lot = of people problems. I don't think they appreciate both individuals = working on projects that take 3-5+ years, large customers that large = deployments. Hopefully those large customers will pressure Adobe to make = the pulled installers available. >=20 > FYI - you can find the installers but Adobe has actually = disabled/blocked them from working. You simply CANNOT install Premiere = and AME 2014/15/17 on a new machine period. >=20 > Best,=20 > =20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > =20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > =20 > A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. > =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]=20 > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 2:52 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Premiere/AE/Audition and the missing Dolby audio = decoder >=20 > My experience on PP 2018 is that it took me no less than 5 minutes to = crash it. Opening up previous projects for updates isn=E2=80=99t pretty = as those are super easy to crash with. doing simple stuff like adding an = transition crashes.I=E2=80=99ve heard similar tales from PC users. Some = people seem to have stable installs, some don=E2=80=99t. There doesn=E2=80= =99t seem to be commonality to it. Even new clean projects can be = crashers, so I gave up and moved on. sad but when you just need to get = things done rather then send crash logs off=E2=80=A6 you do what you = need to do.=20 >=20 > FCP X is a rock, and when the odd crash does happen (10.3, 10.4 has = been more stable ), at the very worst I=E2=80=99ve lost one edit, not = the last 20 minutes of work. >=20 > it would be interesting to compare stable systems vs unstable ones to = see if there is a root cause. >=20 > as for the loss of the old installs, I think they should patch the app = / installers to work w/o the dolby encoder.=20 >=20 > S >=20 >> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Jim Curtis = wrote: >>=20 >> Steve, my experience is that PR CC18 is very stable - the most stable = since CC14, and Dynamic Linking between Ae is better than ever. I no = longer have to relink my DL=E2=80=99ed Ae Comps in Pr when opening a = project that uses links. That=E2=80=99s new to me. >>=20 >> I think my Dolby decoder is working in Pr CC18, too. It might be = because I have earlier versions of Pr installed. Not sure about that. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m on Mac. >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Steve Oakley = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Its probably dolby. you can no longer install several older is vers = of Prem Pro like CC2014, the last stable release.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> . >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > =20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to