From: "Steve Oakley" Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.196] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6391238 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 23:43:45 +0100 Received: from [10.1.1.102] ([71.87.57.30]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus001 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mg5hr-1eQkfp1sAP-00NduR for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 23:46:20 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Premiere/AE/Audition and the missing Dolby audio decoder Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:46:19 -0600 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4759773D-6FA9-4526-8576-8F5A03975250@practicalillusions.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:bYWW8uK8CE0aUunAbkvWpzi3TcXgjtDh9jHAt0Gf8n6BwavS/ud 4aVsRP5b+9hHo07PL4MLdrOsXTvw+YyLwivOyoKSDHuBGODgh7Koa6Q/iuQB5pXiS3FBayq HTr5c0/pQnYqwLEcwaIq+ROHILYa8xXoJus3OIUfAkCfJvWjqsFwM2z0MI1bCyHDNAJBVhR j5TwLGrLJ4ycPZdtWvWBw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mtZ6Sf8Npvg=:GEGk8Wm/QJrIN6s12h0zfw DTeHURg2x3qkUAdCcnU2b4VTJIpKVObf4AubvykBGyDrUKpsI1+O3tHwsf28cVU8K06GDls2O 58ngOmkTlWmnkAwA9QpziobLobo81CDc+RnC+go+vE5gN2glrD5kcc+VUcXFoKHmdL1CJxyFf gt6yXNdSF/bGrG8v0y8MW2X1L/esaGkOt1gLu9qxyXuGAo1mblA6jT61Yn/dVRdwMEWzi+fm2 g5epowmLIBcvDnCL2Fkt1q/tB80lsd+x3Dmexq9qzbT9jXfMy3hLd1SQDF+4Ze1cZqlYw4ZUj tlOnhbw83JeIXg9+ddH5FropF6WS1pbHFdmxxe63fB+u40m4hxQeUcVSy2XaxJzMW4WJ82YyW tELvRqtCi71oR/gzcImRwZ8NnHCJhR6E31bYSft2CMXMZ/w2vzc7voA++SmeHxT4gi9x2LkCN /nqVyJnGS17pm/vhBskojpzhFDbrEsh88xeImvcGXPlaUDi2iEBnwQf5I91mhrshGtVw9XfpF hSXs96ccoIbwxQ51iFT2eah2V73Ab1P0BmKQ8KCWYNZ2/ffGTWP89hDknI7Z3XUoqS6l0zrYT oJKC1QXSW0lBcH9MLdAPWsVsCTiCP/cOgrh9nlip6Schq3XsL8L+31ToeYJ2/osxUtvLZIOM+ iUjiHEsC6qWHv8ko5DLw3B/zXfbOU+mBL7nsOp1mEFTGUGo2uuYP2fn4uSOf3cH4oyV+MNHP8 pPr4ZlcGowE2Hp7YZhJtpIGXQLZInWd4nRXF8lupdC1TR0GCe4yrgOhTXLA= I have a project that I=E2=80=99ve tried to purify. reimported into new = project, even exported to XML and imported that into new project, still = highly unstable and crashy. thankfully delivered and done for over a = year now, so I don=E2=80=99t have to deal with it.=20 media is fine. thats generally easy to find because you crash playing or = doing things with that one clip, or clips from a particular folder.=20 nVidia driver is more interesting. I do installs often enough through = regular updates though that its probably low on my list but a good / = fast / easy one to do. PP prefs. ugh. perhaps cloud prefs are the source of re-occuring = problems. maybe I=E2=80=99ll nuke everything prefs and see if that = matters. App reinstall I=E2=80=99ve done, never made a difference for me. if anything, I=E2=80=99ve almost come to suspect nVidia related things = and that AMD is more stable. my laptop seems to be more stable than my = tower with Titan X. what I will say is I=E2=80=99ve spent days trying some other things like = trashing all the house keeping files / caches, new projects, copy and = paste into new TL=E2=80=99s, pretty much to no avail. I think old = projects have some weird bits to them that newer vers don=E2=80=99t like = and don=E2=80=99t have code to detect the problems and fix. what we need = is a project purifier that filters a project for questionable things and = fixes them. I realize that might mean your project gets changed, but = I=E2=80=99d rather have warning of items that changed and need to be = fixed than I can=E2=80=99t get work done. well I have, export to XML and = go to FCP X or resolve to finish it. S > On Jan 19, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Jim Curtis = wrote: >=20 > FWIW, I=E2=80=99ve tracked down ALL my issues with PP to usually one = of these things: >=20 > - corrupt media. Remove or transcode to a different codec. > - Nvidia driver corruption. Reinstall. (One time I had to wait a few = days for a driver update to fix a known issue.) > - Pr preferences corruption. Reset > - app corruption. Reinstall > - an effect or transition has become corrupted. Remove and replace. > - project corruption. Import the =E2=80=9Cbad=E2=80=9D Project into a = New Project. > - Sequence corruption. Copy from the =E2=80=9Cbad" and paste into a = new sequence. >=20 > If necessary, follow all steps. >=20 > So far, Zeus willing, I=E2=80=99ve been able to finish every job = I=E2=80=99ve started in every version of Premiere since CS 5.5. Some = versions have been more buggy than others. =20 >=20 > CC18 has been outstanding for me on my Mac. I have a client with = Windows systems - I don=E2=80=99t know what OS version, but there have = been problems there too, with cc18. Mostly crashing. >=20 > Worst perp, in my experience is corrupted prefs and media. >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 19, 2018, at 1:51 PM, Steve Oakley = wrote: >>=20 >> My experience on PP 2018 is that it took me no less than 5 minutes to = crash it. Opening up previous projects for updates isn=E2=80=99t pretty = as those are super easy to crash with. doing simple stuff like adding an = transition crashes.I=E2=80=99ve heard similar tales from PC users. Some = people seem to have stable installs, some don=E2=80=99t. There doesn=E2=80= =99t seem to be commonality to it. Even new clean projects can be = crashers, so I gave up and moved on. sad but when you just need to get = things done rather then send crash logs off=E2=80=A6 you do what you = need to do.=20 >=20 >=20 > . > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to