From: "Evan Fotis Georgoulakis" Received: from [83.235.69.32] (HELO chimaera.otenet.gr) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6396224 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:01:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ppp-2-84-182-53.home.otenet.gr [2.84.182.53]) by chimaera.otenet.gr (ESMTP) with ESMTPSA for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 18:04:06 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: [AE] Jump to PCland To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-ID: Disposition-Notification-To: Evan Fotis Georgoulakis Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 18:04:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080914 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.17 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------531277C4B8E4CC8AFB8993CE" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------531277C4B8E4CC8AFB8993CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The Surface pro and Books are realy nice for being on the go and working with projects where all assets are stored internally only (not on external drives). Why? Because they lack Thunderbolt 3 ports or any TB port for that matter. Only USB3 port(s), which share its bandwidth along peripherals, drives mouse etc, with slow transfer rates. If a tablet hybrid is needed, I would suggest the latest HP ZBOOK x2 14" powerhouse. For a laptop the latest Dell XPS 15 laptops announced at CES, really light and small for 15.6" and with two TB3 ports & nvidia GPUS. On 29-Jan-18 14:16, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > You might look also at the high end Surface Pros.  The Surface Pro 4 I > think goes up to an i7 processor.  I've had the Surface Pro 3 for > about 4 years and it has After Effects loaded and performs pretty > decent and that's with an i3. > > The only drawback at least on this one is check the graphics support.  > I'm unable to take advantage of GPU and therefor can't use plugins > like Mettle's ShapeShifer, FFP, etc. (a couple of my favorites).  That > may be resolved in the Pro 4 series though. > > Eric > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:54 AM, Jim Tierney > wrote: > > We’ve got an MSI and an Alienware, both are good, powerful > machines. The form factor is typical PC laptop, so bulkier than a > MacBook. Make sure you get a large SSD as the boot drive. I > attempted to move the OS to a larger SSD on the Alienware and it > was a bit of a disaster. I got it working but some things still > aren’t quite right. Drivers on PC laptops are particularly > difficult to get re-installed. > > That said, for normal upgrades the Alienware is easier. The MSI > requires you to jump through a ton of hoops (not as bad as a > MacBook, but it’s not as easy as it could be). Before buying, find > out what it takes to add memory or an SSD. > > I don’t know what’s up with the Lenovo’s, but I see black screens > occasionally on both the MSI and Alienware, where the external > monitor goes black for a moment or two and then comes back. > Usually indicates the driver crashed or the GPU got overloaded and > restarted. > > Cheers, > > Jim > > ------------------- > > Jim Tierney > > President > > Digital Anarchy > > *From:*After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv > ] > *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2018 12:39 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* [AE] Jump to PCland > > Hello, > > I saw a few threads before on jumping from Mac to PCs, but if I > recall correctly, it seemed like it was mostly for desktop. Can > you offer advice on a good PC laptop? > > I'm currently enrolled in an evening class utilizing 3DS Max and > After Effects, so I need portability with decent rendering power. > > My teacher suggested a Lenovo Yoga 720, but the reviews elude to a > black bar screen issue that hasn't been solved in years. > > Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you! > > Cheers, > > Marie V. Thresher > > /Animator, Published Illustrator, & Interactive Designer/ > > www.marievthresher.com > > > > > -- > * > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *VFX for Kirk Productions* > *443.206.1347* > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com * > *YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric* > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* > ** > * > ** --------------531277C4B8E4CC8AFB8993CE Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

The Surface pro and Books are realy nice for being on the go and working with projects where all assets are stored internally only (not on external drives).
Why?
Because they lack Thunderbolt 3 ports or any TB port for that matter.
Only USB3 port(s), which share its bandwidth along peripherals, drives mouse etc, with slow transfer rates.

If a tablet hybrid is needed, I would suggest the latest HP ZBOOK x2 14" powerhouse.

For a laptop the latest Dell XPS 15 laptops announced at CES, really light and small for 15.6" and with two TB3 ports & nvidia GPUS.


On 29-Jan-18 14:16, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
You might look also at the high end Surface Pros.  The Surface Pro 4 I think goes up to an i7 processor.  I've had the Surface Pro 3 for about 4 years and it has After Effects loaded and performs pretty decent and that's with an i3.

The only drawback at least on this one is check the graphics support.  I'm unable to take advantage of GPU and therefor can't use plugins like Mettle's ShapeShifer, FFP, etc. (a couple of my favorites).  That may be resolved in the Pro 4 series though.

Eric

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:54 AM, Jim Tierney <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

We’ve got an MSI and an Alienware, both are good, powerful machines. The form factor is typical PC laptop, so bulkier than a MacBook. Make sure you get a large SSD as the boot drive. I attempted to move the OS to a larger SSD on the Alienware and it was a bit of a disaster. I got it working but some things still aren’t quite right. Drivers on PC laptops are particularly difficult to get re-installed.

 

That said, for normal upgrades the Alienware is easier. The MSI requires you to jump through a ton of hoops (not as bad as a MacBook, but it’s not as easy as it could be). Before buying, find out what it takes to add memory or an SSD.

 

I don’t know what’s up with the Lenovo’s, but I see black screens occasionally on both the MSI and Alienware, where the external monitor goes black for a moment or two and then comes back. Usually indicates the driver crashed or the GPU got overloaded and restarted.

 

 

Cheers,

Jim

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Jim Tierney

President

Digital Anarchy

 

 

 

From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 12:39 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] Jump to PCland

 

Hello,

I saw a few threads before on jumping from Mac to PCs, but if I recall correctly, it seemed like it was mostly for desktop. Can you offer advice on a good PC laptop?

I'm currently enrolled in an evening class utilizing 3DS Max and After Effects, so I need portability with decent rendering power.

 

My teacher suggested a Lenovo Yoga 720, but the reviews elude to a black bar screen issue that hasn't been solved in years. 

 

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you!

 

 

Cheers,

 

Marie V. Thresher

Animator, Published Illustrator, & Interactive Designer




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