From: "Marie T" Received: from mail-wm0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6398653 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 02 Feb 2018 04:10:27 +0100 Received: by mail-wm0-f49.google.com with SMTP id r78so9566048wme.0 for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2018 19:13:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=V+hSQGCgX/fX5UwfYoguEtMyaLh1iO8I7LXr2prKIw0=; b=EpketAnXhHT942tqtbSSQhYfpjfCy/mGymhlUfFu01jFG63rFl/r0xWdoLKg6utoE0 xZhd9mJphNh49LrPpeQpvChLZrxx1DkO1xjd/4NckCql1CZ7pDL1XA4UlpFSYGmTfBLd fW2VAz2mBVYBlr1q/1g/zCOZBVkiuIuGLCziDlv0TFvSQ7gkGlfdKmUJnGtsiW1ffk1W Zi1G9VO6Wy7Hm2o+CaqF2xNm4MEF3ByTMJ62/EEM5GWPLWOwU600NTWUIIYWQUn0naVz vhEornqqA7VpArEn2wwAYYf4eLFVcB9zlkfbuHXmRQCTsoHzArfoTtTFJxVjyaYT0WLN U5Qg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=V+hSQGCgX/fX5UwfYoguEtMyaLh1iO8I7LXr2prKIw0=; b=TgwdVd5z0dFwa19THpojBjQpoRp69Lz/DRSW0j2cOFrnhT05VUiwuaFXM93BHYvDAG VwkGPdhicmHS4THNdXMrl4t8WYPsrvPU8T17qxEEehwrJdvraYZBJ2upZYBXyWPBocZt LzVnyST+p/6Bj0Qph+1njphDb6wOzucTlot9DIgxMunEs6sjj31QPcPygh1O62dT+ZGs cgFJU9Jy9AMuE0Lc+SJG2TgiLTqdVv4j2VEvnxXq9bYlfNZrftEhlkGlkiGwntoo6Rbt 8XAO9Kp0XktNYSWtAj1aarfTG63YP27ed3tXYGyt2kFjfnFx0yDbzmPyY0ERRQ7tKof4 y4Xg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytdwAOfO1cNEtJbT9uw5YowkSW0GGN7x7beEc0H206xbB3wS4FG9 cnfnp6P4DUITuzPLlS7G8lFHedVujal4DD+2tvBez7pW X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225R+KokuZNmdnwSjL/vDbpaeA1xNccXNOJikpYwTboWtS9QKSI2BQ1fJz2RvO3zWR5NguUEgOGEEgzF5/Em8WY= X-Received: by 10.80.161.5 with SMTP id 5mr3429230edj.65.1517541209474; Thu, 01 Feb 2018 19:13:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.140.69 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 19:13:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 22:13:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Jump to PCland To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c0da376b90a4d0564321861" --94eb2c0da376b90a4d0564321861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your responses have been incredibly helpful! I appreciate everyone's suggestions and advice, as finding a quality PC laptop has been a daunting task. Teddy Gage=E2=80=93you asked about the class itself. It is called Environme= ntal Animation. Instead of strictly building scenes in the literal sense, it is about experimenting with code, exporting data between Max/AE, utilizing forces/particle systems, etc. My classmates come from all different backgrounds (some are city-planners, game designers, and motion graphic designers, like me). I'm a working professional and have done a lot of 2D animation and video. I=E2=80=99m enjoying this class for the experimentation, 3D integration, an= d cross-pollination of programs. Thanks again for your advice. Cheers, Marie V. Thresher Animator, Published Illustrator, & Interactive Designer www.marievthresher.com On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Evan Fotis Georgoulakis < AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: > The Surface pro and Books are realy nice for being on the go and working > with projects where all assets are stored internally only (not on externa= l > drives). > Why? > Because they lack Thunderbolt 3 ports or any TB port for that matter. > Only USB3 port(s), which share its bandwidth along peripherals, drives > mouse etc, with slow transfer rates. > > If a tablet hybrid is needed, I would suggest the latest HP ZBOOK x2 14" > powerhouse. > > For a laptop the latest Dell XPS 15 laptops announced at CES, really ligh= t > and small for 15.6" and with two TB3 ports & nvidia GPUS. > > On 29-Jan-18 14:16, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > > You might look also at the high end Surface Pros. The Surface Pro 4 I > think goes up to an i7 processor. I've had the Surface Pro 3 for about 4 > years and it has After Effects loaded and performs pretty decent and that= 's > with an i3. > > The only drawback at least on this one is check the graphics support. I'= m > unable to take advantage of GPU and therefor can't use plugins like > Mettle's ShapeShifer, FFP, etc. (a couple of my favorites). That may be > resolved in the Pro 4 series though. > > Eric > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:54 AM, Jim Tierney > wrote: > >> We=E2=80=99ve got an MSI and an Alienware, both are good, powerful machi= nes. The >> form factor is typical PC laptop, so bulkier than a MacBook. Make sure y= ou >> get a large SSD as the boot drive. I attempted to move the OS to a large= r >> SSD on the Alienware and it was a bit of a disaster. I got it working bu= t >> some things still aren=E2=80=99t quite right. Drivers on PC laptops are >> particularly difficult to get re-installed. >> >> >> >> That said, for normal upgrades the Alienware is easier. The MSI requires >> you to jump through a ton of hoops (not as bad as a MacBook, but it=E2= =80=99s not >> as easy as it could be). Before buying, find out what it takes to add >> memory or an SSD. >> >> >> >> I don=E2=80=99t know what=E2=80=99s up with the Lenovo=E2=80=99s, but I = see black screens >> occasionally on both the MSI and Alienware, where the external monitor g= oes >> black for a moment or two and then comes back. Usually indicates the dri= ver >> crashed or the GPU got overloaded and restarted. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jim >> >> ------------------- >> >> Jim Tierney >> >> President >> >> Digital Anarchy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2018 12:39 PM >> *To:* After Effects Mail List >> *Subject:* [AE] Jump to PCland >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> I saw a few threads before on jumping from Mac to PCs, but if I recall >> correctly, it seemed like it was mostly for desktop. Can you offer advic= e >> on a good PC laptop? >> >> I'm currently enrolled in an evening class utilizing 3DS Max and After >> Effects, so I need portability with decent rendering power. >> >> >> >> My teacher suggested a Lenovo Yoga 720, but the reviews elude to a black >> bar screen issue that hasn't been solved in years. >> >> >> >> Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you! >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Marie V. Thresher >> >> *Animator, Published Illustrator, & Interactive Designer* >> >> www.marievthresher.com >> > > > > -- > > > * Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions VFX for Kirk Productions 443.206.1347 > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com YouTube: > https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric > IMDB: > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ = * > > > > > --94eb2c0da376b90a4d0564321861 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Your responses have been incredibly helpful! I appreciate everyone's=20 suggestions and advice, as finding a quality PC laptop has been a=20 daunting task.=C2=A0


Teddy Gage=E2=80=93you asked about the class itself. It is called Environmental= =20 Animation. Instead of strictly building scenes in the literal sense, it=20 is about experimenting with code, exporting data between Max/AE,=20 utilizing forces/particle systems, etc. My classmates come from all=20 different backgrounds (some are city-planners, game designers, and=20 motion graphic designers, like me).=C2=A0

I'm a working professional and have done a lot of 2D animation and video.=20 I=E2=80=99m enjoying this class for the experimentation, 3D integration, an= d=20 cross-pollination of programs.


Thanks again for your advice.


Cheers,


Marie V. Thresher

Animator, Published Il= lustrator, & Interactive Designer

www.marievthresher.com=

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= On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Evan Fotis Georgoulakis <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

The Surface pro and Books are realy nice for being on the go and working with projects where all assets are stored internally only (not on external drives).
Why?
Because they lack Thunderbolt 3 ports or any TB port for that matter.
Only USB3 port(s), which share its bandwidth along peripherals, drives mouse etc, with slow transfer rates.

If a tablet hybrid is needed, I would suggest the latest HP ZBOOK x2 14" powerhouse.

For a laptop the latest Dell XPS 15 laptops announced at CES, really light and small for 15.6" and with two TB3 ports & nvidia GPUS.


On 29-Jan-18 14:16= , Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote:
You might look also at the high end Surface Pros.=C2=A0 The Surface Pro 4 I think goes up to an i7 processor.=C2=A0 I've = had the Surface Pro 3 for about 4 years and it has After Effects loaded and performs pretty decent and that's with an i3.

The only drawback at least on this one is check the graphics support.=C2=A0 I'm unable to take advantage of GPU a= nd therefor can't use plugins like Mettle's ShapeShifer, FFP= , etc. (a couple of my favorites).=C2=A0 That may be resolved in th= e Pro 4 series though.

Eric

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:54 AM, Jim Tierney <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

We= =E2=80=99ve got an MSI and an Alienware, both are good, powerful machines. The form factor is typical PC laptop, so bulkier than a MacBook. Make sure you get a large SSD as the boot drive. I attempted to move the OS to a larger SSD on the Alienware and it was a bit of a disaster. I got it working but some things still aren=E2=80=99t quite right. Drivers on PC laptops are particularly difficult to get re-installed.

=C2= =A0

That said, for normal upgrades the Alienware is easier. The MSI requires you to jump through a ton of hoops (not as bad as a MacBook, but it=E2=80=99s not as easy = as it could be). Before buying, find out what it takes to add memory or an SSD.

=C2= =A0

I don=E2=80=99t know what=E2=80=99s up with the Lenovo=E2= =80=99s, but I see black screens occasionally on both the MSI and Alienware, where the external monitor goes black for a moment or two and then comes back. Usually indicates the driver crashed or the GPU got overloaded and restarted.

=C2= =A0

=C2= =A0

Chee= rs,

Jim<= /span>

----= ---------------

Jim Tierney

Pres= ident

Digi= tal Anarchy

=C2= =A0

=C2= =A0

=C2=A0=

From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 12:39 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] Jump to PCland

=C2=A0

Hello,

I saw a few threads before on jumping from Mac to PCs, but if I recall correctly, it seemed like it was mostly for desktop. Can you offer advice on a good PC laptop?

I'm currently enrolled in an evening class utilizing 3DS Max and After Effects, so I need portability with decent rendering power.

=C2=A0

My teacher suggested a Lenovo Yoga 720, but the reviews elude to a black bar screen issue that hasn't been solved in years.=C2= =A0

=C2=A0

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you!

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Marie V. Thresher

Animator, Published Illustrator, & Interactive Designer




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