From: "Steve Oakley" Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.196] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6410872 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 18:34:57 +0100 Received: from [10.1.1.99] ([71.87.57.30]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus001 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M5O2r-1eW1Gn1DJP-00zVU1 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 18:38:50 +0100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A0A70ABE-1F23-4D14-AA5C-35AFE388328B" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.11\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Audio Issue in AE and Premiere Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:38:48 -0600 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6B894E6D-1BBC-4424-BCFF-8E61B82EAAB4@practicalillusions.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.11) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Tjx8FfOqZw+OWCfWsm0W/Txu8JzlEb97F6ar2j3XWOkehCYn0XA P+QF6ymsPne4rX+CsMtLhdSJjuperJxsVZfpIeYNXkSx7q1mI6sKO7Ez4X2G0TII46a43MS 9cBD9GxPvS7wAri9MFe9ZqeJqEPfv03O0NNRQ/YHvQjgj4kkg7Vaf0b2cwbLGpqyAY1cpI3 sffOoiXHyP2rU+5B1uLJQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:8/3hITrPPMg=:ZjwzGPA3yJm2AD33XsjnvH w2/URMYV3rs4ZP9GD9jjL8dtwAcgPz5OtVFZ0hAeMMAzQgGfGSWF4g9axFB4gI6dX4y4pHsju Uta1XeLN4TG8Yfb+mLwDL6/snacyWvvDc0aMo6k8l7XhNNv3ryKU9r4ufk05rGvk7Usze/J+2 yyi4hYJf8IuGTtCB+CeSum49YBzUxXGeHNU9FnYIx3UjP83edcPKD2pxr742zeWB1ZELPSzzv lgpA+bZfP3z3//sgD8UB7I8xVCSiQszuTTZIL5HkEdS5QoOh2lsJCOXHGX9DZUdQ4OU5FZSvh btLFXBLBA48w34uBrFaEE2DZQAwYTCn0vkM9MuEeTCAKpWrFueQifkvMqnMrhDhOhKFV7JCvQ lonnVRJQ0w1lgzurzUTmALhHx70rlUcz1hCc8/I6kWQPtxnPI9OF5msa8740YHKIFf1sX6gWs J4mZ6efE+rvE+Si+2ryRyLzSpEsqchbbWyhhoLLSId/pN+1CqgKtzR+lWCxk4FwlUsftEmj/0 mqJ7UsROLBltGPSgvhUxTNvk6ATrv9VvcLApTt14LVpr6uyNmKAbxxpiR27n7ROLjFRZpB8Hv lzTOR8g2QGEesmjgqCbMzrxgWnv625QDQmVb289NVlyr811omoANDhTh8NrJ3BDNl+CWm6J8D jjy2QZKm3FUaWCEvINWDdlT+f42jbfxPmlMNNmMfQ/82XgjnhqPgg39eFJ1QB3Lt4QyQatl4r 8KWD245nSNarGaFRb4nxMedjJ39wRcWcFOeKuPmKtCAl/v3vgrsRH15cvoo= --Apple-Mail=_A0A70ABE-1F23-4D14-AA5C-35AFE388328B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I recall that the C100 Mk1 writes h.264 in MXF file / folder wrapper aka = AVCHD 25. I thought the Mk2 went to independent mov files. C300 mk2 is = is independent MXF where you can move files around at will , Mk1 is = folder / file. Edit ready will rewrap into independent MXF or MOV. I=E2=80=99d really = suggest getting all media out of MXF folder / file structure and make = independent files. life is a lot easier that way. sounds like some bit = in the MXF structure got hit. worst case is play out the camera and = digitize via capture card or atomos device. brute force but will get the = job done. S > On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Bobv wrote: >=20 > I=E2=80=99m not sure if this is helpful but, on the C300 I have to = drag the whole card over=E2=80=A6 meaning I literally grab the icon of = the card on the desk top and drag that to a folder on a drive. > Not doing so can cause issues. > Jim Haba >=20 >=20 >> On Feb 26, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Warren Heaton > wrote: >>=20 >> When you copy the SD card, are you maintaining the data structure? >>=20 >> Try playing one clip in the Media Browser (in Premiere, AE, or AME). = You=E2=80=99ll know right away if you=E2=80=99re getting the unexpected = playback you=E2=80=99re getting when you import directly or the expected = playback you=E2=80=99re getting when you play the footage in camera. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -Warren >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> (If this messages shows up twice in the thread, I tried sending it = again after the reply bouncing back earlier today.) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Thanks all. >>>=20 >>> I had tried the import file feature as well as drag and drop. If = the sample rate is the issue, how do I correct this? I've never had an = issue with sampling when dragging in new footage. Appreciate the help = gents. >>>=20 >>> Eric >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:31 PM, robertw > wrote: >>> Tim is right most likely. Sampling rate issue. >>>=20 >>> Get Outlook for iOS >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:04 AM -0800, "Warren Heaton" = > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Are you using the Media Browser to bring the clips in or just File > = Import? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -Warren >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Feb 25, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Timothy Sassoon = > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Thinks it's the wrong sample rate. >>>>=20 >>>> Tim Sassoon >>>> Venice >>>>=20 >>>>> On Feb 25, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hello All, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I have the weirdest issue going on here. I just did some = recording using my Canon C100 Mark 2. Footage is fine, audio is fine in = camera but when I download the file and use on the timeline in AE or = Premiere it is not only not synched up but it begins early and is too = fast. At a glance it looks to have sped up by two times and I can see = clearly how it begins early since it is a guy singing. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Starts before he does and finishes before he does. >>>>>=20 >>>>> And, it doesn't affect every clip, just like a couple. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I've downloaded a third time, placed the SD card back in the = camera to verify and it plays fine. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Never seen this one before. Any ideas? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Eric >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>>>> VFX for Kirk Productions >>>>> 443.206.1347 <> >>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric = >>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ = >>>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>> VFX for Kirk Productions >>> 443.206.1347 <> >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric = >>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ = >>> =20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_A0A70ABE-1F23-4D14-AA5C-35AFE388328B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I = recall that the C100 Mk1 writes h.264 in MXF file / folder wrapper aka = AVCHD 25. I thought the Mk2 went to independent mov files. C300 mk2 is = is independent MXF where you can move files around at will , Mk1 is = folder / file.

Edit = ready will rewrap into independent MXF or MOV.  I=E2=80=99d really = suggest getting all media out of MXF folder / file structure and make = independent files. life is a lot easier that way. sounds like some bit = in the MXF structure got hit. worst case is play out the camera and = digitize via capture card or atomos device. brute force but will get the = job done.

S

On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Bobv <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I=E2=80=99m = not sure if this is helpful but, on the C300 I have to drag the whole = card over=E2=80=A6 meaning I literally grab the icon of the card on the = desk top and drag that to a folder on a drive.
Not doing = so can cause issues.
Jim Haba


On Feb 26, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Warren Heaton <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

When = you copy the SD card, are you maintaining the data structure?

Try playing one clip in = the Media Browser (in Premiere, AE, or AME).  You=E2=80=99ll know = right away if you=E2=80=99re getting the unexpected playback you=E2=80=99r= e getting when you import directly or the expected playback you=E2=80=99re= getting when you play the footage in camera.



-Warren





(If this messages shows = up twice in the thread, I tried sending it again after the reply = bouncing back earlier today.)






On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Thanks all.

I had tried the import file feature as = well as drag and drop.  If the sample rate is the issue, how do I = correct this?  I've never had an issue with sampling when dragging = in new footage.  Appreciate the help gents.

Eric

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:31 PM, robertw <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
=09
Tim is right most likely. Sampling rate issue.
=09

Get= Outlook = for iOS



On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:04 AM -0800, = "Warren Heaton" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Are you using the Media Browser to bring the clips in or just File > = Import?



-Warren




On Feb 25, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Timothy Sassoon = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Thinks = it's the wrong sample rate.

Tim Sassoon
Venice

On Feb 25, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hello All,

I have the weirdest issue going on = here.  I just did some recording using my Canon C100 Mark 2.  = Footage is fine, audio is fine in camera but when I download the file = and use on the timeline in AE or Premiere it is not only not synched up = but it begins early and is too fast.  At a glance it looks to have = sped up by two times and I can see clearly how it begins early since it = is a guy singing.

Starts before he does and finishes before he does.

And, it doesn't affect = every clip, just like a couple.

I've downloaded a third time, placed = the SD card back in the camera to verify and it plays fine.

Never seen this one = before. Any ideas?

Eric

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Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
VFX = for Kirk Productions
443.206.1347
www.kirkproductions.com
kirkproductions@gmail.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric
IMDB: = http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/
=
 





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Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
VFX = for Kirk Productions
443.206.1347
www.kirkproductions.com
kirkproductions@gmail.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/
 


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