From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-ot0-f178.google.com ([74.125.82.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6410871 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:10:03 +0100 Received: by mail-ot0-f178.google.com with SMTP id l12so4654037otj.7 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:13:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0lOO2l3krALpVkW9hfBXqtk+vCpHgJvAFLxYZpFsuuo=; b=O0rKIwrFLlGIQWEcq5QU/JMjSiOpzX6woW19qEA5peg2gd8R1usr3wGeI5uYrT+WAy 4mNf+SLUXCb2tFhSvS+j3upyiGN0qG+a/EbGar+5VmLuEUNW9moRsrJLAU/IpGcRnHPN IO7z1SQfcCt4KY2fmNDosm+ictaP48ct5ir7WMFr9SoIKkaWeFTamvBwSnGsOoVjwvjI KB0S1YZmyOoJlVzCuvbubTQQTNuWDNZ04R0iBYrWeXieUX3HPegWxX3gQg7Xoc3NI4K3 d0pPg2wrHk5AYWkW/tDuzO6nbV9kPoEYo0dOaFdPyyrs7lhMrhcEZ7M431GoSpcgI4je t2iw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=0lOO2l3krALpVkW9hfBXqtk+vCpHgJvAFLxYZpFsuuo=; b=a69dT5YWrgl1D4nMqHIuRwG2pZ+HxDNT060XikdfBKGqfZwLwnEoAZA0CjiW/quglM a5c3IxnYDKq+D75jA3IFYXtSPSqn9rcetvOJmeswj2C4tkW7fgdZ7WbE8LDyzqgw8dc7 pMGQuJ1H3ysNz/QzZxxQHciC4eyLPMql94EULeK9O37BD/L621XD09DPvRkHx3LkvlQF aXosfZQUEoegJr2odVsQQ9c4scXbwBw2YggSjzRDY+1h3nhM8iEkQKZoyx7xLOeMVoC8 oNu9kAj6TuDUL93oG6V+U96lhPgRhygv+xlucrgLf1TV9m6nZKt3jyGDipymRLqoNyz0 YUug== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPBmfbiMgaLLeL5rCPg+Gfful+Fzbd0rVMGHp1SteABsKJ6wgsiF WyF8xUqEwlXlE78L+rU5/Y5Jy6N0Z0aBpJvf8gNYJw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtjY39UEWQVaB2j/3oBuC+O++qrzgaYJF5BamiVey2lcNa99c694OAuL+0jMcY5XiXf6MxgoFmOZdRRvDG1y+s= X-Received: by 10.157.26.40 with SMTP id a37mr11500276ote.166.1519755235821; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:13:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.74.210.68 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:13:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:13:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Audio Issue in AE and Premiere To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113dc738fa0e8b05663596be" --001a113dc738fa0e8b05663596be Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Appreciate all of the comments but this is not a continuing issue with the C100. I've been using it for a year with no problems and seems centered on a single file from the same shoot. Records in AVCHD + MP4 Recording. Interesting review as I bought it based on stellar reviews and advice from a C100, C200, and C300 user. I've seen spectacular results really. As for the audio though, is there a way to adjust this synch problem? I've never had to "copy the whole card" before. Eric On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > The C100 uses the dreaded AVCHD .MTS files. > Its a nice camera and can capture beautiful images, but the AVCHD gives > annoyingly bad performance in most apps, Premiere and Avid at least was > problematic in the past. Now i very seldom gets any C100 files anymore, s= o > i dont know if it has been fixed, but my guess your issues is due to AVCH= D. > > Robert > > 2018-02-27 18:38 GMT+01:00 Steve Oakley : > >> I recall that the C100 Mk1 writes h.264 in MXF file / folder wrapper aka >> AVCHD 25. I thought the Mk2 went to independent mov files. C300 mk2 is i= s >> independent MXF where you can move files around at will , Mk1 is folder = / >> file. >> >> Edit ready will rewrap into independent MXF or MOV. I=E2=80=99d really = suggest >> getting all media out of MXF folder / file structure and make independen= t >> files. life is a lot easier that way. sounds like some bit in the MXF >> structure got hit. worst case is play out the camera and digitize via >> capture card or atomos device. brute force but will get the job done. >> >> S >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Bobv wrote: >> >> I=E2=80=99m not sure if this is helpful but, on the C300 I have to drag = the whole >> card over=E2=80=A6 meaning I literally grab the icon of the card on the = desk top >> and drag that to a folder on a drive. >> Not doing so can cause issues. >> Jim Haba >> >> >> On Feb 26, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Warren Heaton >> wrote: >> >> When you copy the SD card, are you maintaining the data structure? >> >> Try playing one clip in the Media Browser (in Premiere, AE, or AME). >> You=E2=80=99ll know right away if you=E2=80=99re getting the unexpected = playback you=E2=80=99re >> getting when you import directly or the expected playback you=E2=80=99re= getting >> when you play the footage in camera. >> >> >> >> -Warren >> >> >> >> >> >> (If this messages shows up twice in the thread, I tried sending it again >> after the reply bouncing back earlier today.) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >> wrote: >> >> Thanks all. >> >> I had tried the import file feature as well as drag and drop. If the >> sample rate is the issue, how do I correct this? I've never had an issu= e >> with sampling when dragging in new footage. Appreciate the help gents. >> >> Eric >> >> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:31 PM, robertw wrote= : >> >>> Tim is right most likely. Sampling rate issue. >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:04 AM -0800, "Warren Heaton" < >>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>> >>> Are you using the Media Browser to bring the clips in or just File > >>>> Import? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Warren >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Timothy Sassoon >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thinks it's the wrong sample rate. >>>> >>>> Tim Sassoon >>>> Venice >>>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> I have the weirdest issue going on here. I just did some recording >>>> using my Canon C100 Mark 2. Footage is fine, audio is fine in camera = but >>>> when I download the file and use on the timeline in AE or Premiere it = is >>>> not only not synched up but it begins early and is too fast. At a gla= nce >>>> it looks to have sped up by two times and I can see clearly how it beg= ins >>>> early since it is a guy singing. >>>> >>>> Starts before he does and finishes before he does. >>>> >>>> And, it doesn't affect every clip, just like a couple. >>>> >>>> I've downloaded a third time, placed the SD card back in the camera to >>>> verify and it plays fine. >>>> >>>> Never seen this one before. Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >>>> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirke= ric >>>> IMDB: >>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeri= c >> IMDB: >> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >> >> >> >> >> >> > --=20 *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --001a113dc738fa0e8b05663596be Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Appreciate all of the comments but this is not a cont= inuing issue with the C100.=C2=A0 I've been using it for a year with no= problems and seems centered on a single file from the same shoot.

Records in AVCHD + MP4 Recording.=C2=A0 Interesting review= as I bought it based on stellar reviews and advice from a C100, C200, and = C300 user.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I've seen spectacular results really.
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As for the audio though, is there a way to adjust this synch= problem?

I've never had to "copy the who= le card" before.

Eric

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:= 58 PM, Robert Kjettrup <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote= :
The C100 uses the drea= ded AVCHD .MTS files.
Its a nice camera and can capture beautiful image= s, but the AVCHD gives annoyingly bad performance in most apps, Premiere an= d Avid at least was problematic in the past. Now i very seldom gets any C10= 0 files anymore, so i dont know if it has been fixed, but my guess your iss= ues is due to AVCHD.

Robert

2018-02-27 18:38 GMT+01:00 Steve O= akley <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
=
I recall that the C100 Mk1 writes= h.264 in MXF file / folder wrapper aka AVCHD 25. I thought the Mk2 went to= independent mov files. C300 mk2 is is independent MXF where you can move f= iles around at will , Mk1 is folder / file.

Edit ready w= ill rewrap into independent MXF or MOV.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d really suggest ge= tting all media out of MXF folder / file structure and make independent fil= es. life is a lot easier that way. sounds like some bit in the MXF structur= e got hit. worst case is play out the camera and digitize via capture card = or atomos device. brute force but will get the job done.

S


On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Bobv <AE-List@media-motion.tv<= /a>> wrote:

I= =E2=80=99m not sure if this is helpful but, on the C300 I have to drag the = whole card over=E2=80=A6 meaning I literally grab the icon of the card on t= he desk top and drag that to a folder on a drive.
Not doing so can caus= e issues.
Jim Haba


<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
When you copy the SD card, are you maintaining the data str= ucture?

Try playing one clip in the Media Browser = (in Premiere, AE, or AME).=C2=A0 You=E2=80=99ll know right away if you=E2= =80=99re getting the unexpected playback you=E2=80=99re getting when you im= port directly or the expected playback you=E2=80=99re getting when you play= the footage in camera.



-Warren





(If this messages shows up twice in the th= read, I tried sending it again after the reply bouncing back earlier today.= )






On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Mr. Eric = D. Kirk <AE= -List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Thanks all.

I had tried the import file feature a= s well as drag and drop.=C2=A0 If the sample rate is the issue, how do I co= rrect this?=C2=A0 I've never had an issue with sampling when dragging i= n new footage.=C2=A0 Appreciate the help gents.

Eric

On Mon, Feb 26= , 2018 at 1:31 PM, robertw <AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:
=09
Tim is right most likely. Sampling rate= issue.
=09

Get Outlook for iOS



On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:04 AM -0800, "Wa= rren Heaton" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Are you using the Media Browser to bring the clips in or just File > Imp= ort?



-Warren





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On Feb 25, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Timothy Sas= soon <AE-Li= st@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Thinks it's the wrong sample rate.

Tim Sassoon
Venice

On Feb 25,= 2018, at 2:56 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hello All,

I have the weirdest issue going on here.=C2=A0 I just did some recording u= sing my Canon C100 Mark 2.=C2=A0 Footage is fine, audio is fine in camera b= ut when I download the file and use on the timeline in AE or Premiere it is= not only not synched up but it begins early and is too fast.=C2=A0 At a gl= ance it looks to have sped up by two times and I can see clearly how it beg= ins early since it is a guy singing.

Starts before= he does and finishes before he does.

And, it does= n't affect every clip, just like a couple.

I&#= 39;ve downloaded a third time, placed the SD card back in the camera to ver= ify and it plays fine.

Never seen this one before.= Any ideas?

Eric

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