From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-io0-f172.google.com ([209.85.223.172] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6415500 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:24:39 +0100 Received: by mail-io0-f172.google.com with SMTP id m22so4466129iob.12 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 12:28:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=t01g4Mz5BGiR5W/d3V4o7c69j+NDN+Akxd97tlcvR4o=; b=AY/UAML+soGu0WXLxU8vGMqqCDFc33giS1UAgbLrz3fmQ2TH366Enczyp18GyHM/9K gtAx2MWGL7Do4So4DgpxpbzdEW62+765czmSCNM+hhqHrrdDSnyq+UQMW5oTEF4mzb3j UtocDPTJI+XyZ/L5m7tl3ImZtPuGbYNyxgEG988+0wWrDQHRqnGak7Xap3p3ahWXwvJr HZB3LmdguszCe37h6h/sHeJT4yF4HitYj4G6scUuf+DMD75gf0c3neNe9bpHKpm3oXM7 /oumSbeJPdf9gpxQa43uMGvxYMamabXO3S5RPwExmFMFV/YEctzFeWmTjI9a57yrFibR s8RA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=t01g4Mz5BGiR5W/d3V4o7c69j+NDN+Akxd97tlcvR4o=; b=HJVulnggHdfpnoka9YEi/2+mNHLuRnhX/7pXUAN2VSq/jRzPy+HLSSDm6ZFKk1ctu5 khVqRt/0tfe0hOTyIwLqD67F8Rq8MZt7ZaZ1IuohHw9BXC1laeq3mt5JJ8KOEm87Fis1 B2v87eNwvxgkFAOVvwGpKldsJ76mAHWKaZUR2gqLq/aZNBt6W5HwwMHhuZ47ASOrneDH LnNo+k4AgqZJPoAieARUNDIPCs06AZxwXDm83SKMifbHnZfL706hkGpby18RI4y1t/cX k6cmmZifJFB6QAkOYXdJ8sTfFfbseEcUWaAn0+gzuE5+SCTux6WXREKb11ohNt5ZZG5c JDtw== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FanSzxvUyj8GiAKfV30ro2L+wKgj+Ylz8dFwDGKjSgdn99jUHZ jezQhZcoOOgI/jNBs+aMmTvIPxBRs4dtCgIpKJIZ9g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtaupUhwYhw1Lq2RFPMPIdCFYcskOaODmg4H273Ig5aYWg28oE8uekf3GJsAmDRusBC7fwatRgQ81+xRG2FBzU= X-Received: by 10.107.223.71 with SMTP id d7mr14364182iop.95.1520454528790; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 12:28:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.18.218 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 12:28:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 22:28:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] The impossible end credit challenge... To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f4f5e80dac3c15f4ef0566d868e2" --f4f5e80dac3c15f4ef0566d868e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable for 6 - I would also create hierarchy. some name appear longer or with a full credit, other's don't. in the episode I mentioned it's clear. here's a video capture I made for you from the episode I talked about: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y8NYT1OHArL5bNQ-RqtUVJ-aO_4oWm4K/view?usp= =3Ddrivesdk it's about a minute or so. I think it's maybe about 500 names. some names are from 1-3 sec appearance. on some point there's 60 a screen On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > There are tons of ways to slice the math of course, just depends on how > small you want the text and how long to be in view. lol > > Rudimentary really but you threw in that "and look cool" comment. No real > time to look too cool except toss some out takes or something in the > background maybe? > > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Steve Oakley > wrote: > >> 90 secs / 3sec duration =3D 30 frames of credits >> >> 2000names / 30 frames =3D 66.6 names per screen. round it to 67 >> >> that seems like 2 columns of 30 or maybe 3 of 20 which seems typical of >> some features I=E2=80=99ve seen. >> >> hate to consider the E&O on it though ;) >> >> skip #6 because its impossible. you are keeping thew lawyers and >> disturber handing you a check happy. >> >> and congrats credits are a conversation :) ! >> >> S >> >> On Mar 7, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Roei Tzoref wrote: >> >> full frame screens of all the credits you can fit in in a decent small >> size and make them appear in cuts. that's not too bad. I see this in TV >> sometimes on series like game of thrones I think. >> here's a recording of the ending of a full packed episode. check >> GOTse6ep9. it's about 90 seconds credits. not sure how many names. could= be >> a 500? more? there's a part there where there are almost 100 a frame and >> only for a few seconds. so something like that maybe. >> looks fine to me. >> >> >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Stephen van Vuuren < >> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >> >>> So, we are putting together end credits. Here=E2=80=99s the deal: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. A little over 2000 names, 1100 promised end credits plus, >>> sponsors, SAG-AFTRA etc. >>> 2. 90 seconds >>> 3. No scrolling >>> 4. Must work in both 2K 1:1.85 and 4K 4:3 >>> 5. The only good news? Only for theatrical release so will be see on >>> large to giant screens (other versions can have longer or limited cr= edits) >>> 6. Most important, must anger as few people as possible. >>> >>> >>> >>> I honest have no ideas how to make this work, look cool and meet all th= e >>> above. Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> >>> stephen van vuuren >>> >>> 336.202.4777 <(336)%20202-4777> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fi= ction. It should >>> be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behin= d the >>> emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. >>> >>> =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* After Effects Mail List >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:54 PM >>> *To:* After Effects Mail List >>> *Subject:* [AE] Call for Volunteers for the MediaMotion Ball 2018!! >>> >>> >>> >>> (I'm cross-posting to the IMUG List, so apologies for the redundancy.) >>> >>> >>> >>> Greetings Listers, >>> >>> >>> >>> The 21st Annual MediaMotion Ball at NAB in Las Vegas is approaching >>> fast! As many of you know, this event is put on entirely by volunteers, >>> and we=E2=80=99re looking for people to help out again this year. This = year's event >>> is on Monday April 9. >>> >>> >>> >>> One big change this year is the location: the MediaMotion Ball is going >>> to be at the SLS Las Vegas resort... a LOT closer to the convention cen= ter >>> (with its own monorail stop). >>> >>> >>> >>> We=E2=80=99ll need help with setting up, taking down, manning the prize= table, >>> audio/visual, et al. The shifts are short (and fun), so you=E2=80=99ll = still have >>> plenty of time to enjoy the event. >>> >>> >>> >>> Volunteers will receive a MMB polo shirt (unless you already have one= =E2=80=A6 >>> in which case, plan on bringing it) and a great breakfast Monday mornin= g at >>> The Peppermill. >>> >>> >>> >>> For more information about the event, you can check out >>> www.mediamotionball.com. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please send me an email off-list to let us know you=E2=80=99re interest= ed: >>> houston.wells@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Houston Wells >>> >>> MMB Volunteer Coordinator >>> >>> >>> >>> PS: If we have already corresponded about this recently, I have your >>> name on my list. BUT it won't hurt to check in with me just to confirm. >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > > > *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk > Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric > IMDB: > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ = * > > --f4f5e80dac3c15f4ef0566d868e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
for 6 - I would also create hierarchy. some name appear lo= nger or with a full credit, other's don't.=C2=A0 in the episode I m= entioned it's clear.
here's a video capture I made for you from= the episode I talked about:



On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 10:03 P= M, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
There are tons of wa= ys to slice the math of course, just depends on how small you want the text= and how long to be in view. lol

Rudimentary reall= y but you threw in that "and look cool" comment. No real time to = look too cool except toss some out takes or something in the background may= be?



On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2= :58 PM, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:<= br>
90 secs / =C2=A03sec duration =3D 30= frames of credits

2000names / 30 frames =3D 66.6 names = per screen. round it to 67

that seems like 2 colum= ns =C2=A0of 30 or maybe 3 of 20 which seems typical of some features I=E2= =80=99ve seen.

hate to consider the E&O on it = though ;)=C2=A0

skip #6 because its impossible. yo= u are keeping thew lawyers and disturber handing you a check happy.

and congrats credits are a conversation :) !
S

On Mar 7, 2018, a= t 1:47 PM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

full frame screens of all the credits you can fit in in a decen= t small size and make them appear in cuts. that's not too bad. I see th= is in TV sometimes on series like game of thrones I think.=C2=A0
here&#= 39;s a recording of the ending of a full packed episode. check GOTse6ep9. i= t's about 90 seconds credits. not sure how many names. could be a 500? = more? there's a part there where there are almost 100 a frame and only = for a few seconds. so something like that maybe.
looks fine to me= .=C2=A0

3D"" Virus-free. www.avg.com

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Stephe= n van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

So, we are putting together end cre= dits. Here=E2=80=99s the deal:

<= /u>=C2=A0

  1. A little over 2000 names, 110= 0 promised end credits plus, sponsors, SAG-AFTRA etc.
    2. 90 secondsNo scrolling<= li class=3D"m_-2492744784860774930m_1553918006852285532m_524634774852303464= 8MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0in">Must work in both 2K 1:1.85 an= d 4K 4:3
  2. Th= e only good news? Only for theatrical release so will be see on large to gi= ant screens (other versions can have longer or limited credits)
  3. Most important, must a= nger as few people as possible.

=C2=A0

I honest have no ideas ho= w to make this work, look cool and meet all the above. Thoughts?<= /u>

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0=

stephen van= vuuren

336.202.4777

=C2=A0

http://w= ww.insaturnsrings.com/<= /u>

=C2=A0

=

A film is =E2= =80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fiction. It should = be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind th= e emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

=E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick

=C2=A0

From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.= tv>
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:54 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: [AE] Call for Volunteers for the MediaMotion Ball 2018!!=

=C2=A0

(I= 'm cross-posting to the IMUG List, so apologies for the redundancy.)=

=C2=A0

Greetings Listers,

=C2=A0

The 21st Annual MediaMotion Ball at NAB in Las Vegas is a= pproaching fast! As many of you know, this event is put on entirely by=C2= =A0volu= nteers, and we=E2=80=99re looking for people to help out again this year. This yea= r's event is on Monday April 9.

=C2=A0

One big change this year is the location: the MediaMotion= Ball is going to be at the SLS Las Vegas resort... a LOT closer to the con= vention center (with its own monorail stop).

=C2=A0

We=E2=80=99ll need help with setting up, taking down, man= ning the prize table, audio/visual, et al. The shifts are short (and fun), = so you=E2=80=99ll still have plenty of time to enjoy the event.

=C2=A0

Volunteers=C2=A0will receive a=C2=A0MMB=C2=A0polo shirt (unless you already have one=E2=80=A6 i= n which case, plan on bringing it) and a great breakfast Monday morning at = The Peppermill.

=C2=A0

For more information about the event, you can check out= =C2=A0www.mediamotionball.com.=

=C2=A0

Please send me an email off-list to let us know you=E2=80= =99re interested:=C2=A0=C2=A0houston.wells@gmai= l.com

=C2=A0

Many thanks,

Houston Wells

MMB=C2=A0Volunteer=C2=A0Coordinator<= /p>

=C2=A0

PS: If we have already corresponded about this recently, = I have your name on my list. BUT it won't hurt to check in with me just= to confirm. Thanks!

=C2=A0






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