From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pf0-f176.google.com ([209.85.192.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6437642 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 01:23:55 +0200 Received: by mail-pf0-f176.google.com with SMTP id f15so12904889pfn.0 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:29:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=zvDNjyobZl7Ju3Da0JO6FbLnDTl655OAT2l8sYFuSoc=; b=i7PSIVxWpLWRQVCu9SnfESbi8xuFhE7mr98xsyQ/Ss1soJUhoKZ9WO65bg2+Zbem3m J8c7ZADp4zrhvt9RqzTpze3vqv2mc+U9lCB1rzZ2eXgh4oLvjr2FbQxNb9WN4TGq4DzY TwrQ+YwgCmISZV9XQZNuPHrVzvxR/7jthcfEbt1JFHQ0libxZ3vj32wHYPFL5ehi7DQH zRHj3fb7UricKqS9fDZceSf3hMdGqsssdLqlu02d9GGdGzRnwCCTvMp+LEsByPy1WfQY QEwzT58o04aDe+KH1Bg9QDIqt1su08dWMLDSpkWVAiGvkBadqRCYXKiF+sn8ZlCfuga4 Wm7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=zvDNjyobZl7Ju3Da0JO6FbLnDTl655OAT2l8sYFuSoc=; b=BYoRSenF1aT2zJsEgiNovT5husfO7ZErt4k1fQBeOkxIdYgDrJfVzm6wJFDf92gfw6 ISk5Y1r0eWuhrPrvtremaWxfpigpoLQ6cpLaA/jr5k25ZC2vASAvgZnSKE2nm4x+b+SZ Dh8CSh4IyCSiXA7rfKPBGBCbTZ3702Lq9Y4WF+o8y3eN35jjeYztbm2TS17ICBsaNC8K lequhBUXbdJreUZjxtNUcsEb68ZtMsQcrqMZmpLy9OTPdBdAwpwOhKkwtXxMo9E8Ft/e ihz2GXVRlh5mQZPIDRhGsbVDATakO3kiPltD5Nu2gApVCDHRQXzY4lnGfjtKHFxE8B0/ Pg2g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tB/9QBDRca6aSYjRV9XeCTuU2Up7KGuvrtsYfHDKndh267nIE3S FpZ1nt1a74C9mE8etXh7ARTAapvGTvo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+6sDWSLFdwPE2/zSOzDmWiJ2gGWV5FGH212bLGQfUKNmekP4SxpHmp9kIs5A0L/wKd7fUj4w== X-Received: by 10.98.153.204 with SMTP id t73mr3638345pfk.121.1524007768138; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.3.137] (220-244-139-34.static.tpgi.com.au. [220.244.139.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d23sm15132981pfn.22.2018.04.17.16.29.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BAB95484-CC0C-487C-B9C6-078BACD68A74" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Trapcode - buggy and undependable now? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:29:22 +1000 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) --Apple-Mail=_BAB95484-CC0C-487C-B9C6-078BACD68A74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I use particular and form a lot, almost every day. Not so much their = other plugins, although shine and starglow still get used often enough. = I haven=E2=80=99t used Mir or Tao because they need a GPU and the two = studios where I do the most work have render farms that don=E2=80=99t = have GPUs (Mac Minis and windows blades). That alone is a bit = irritating. I just finished a project that relied on Form and I had some big issues = on both Mac and Windows machines. It was quite tedious and cost me over = a day of work on a very tight deadline. I raised a support ticket and = I=E2=80=99ll see what happens. I suspect some of the problems will be = blamed on a custom obj. I can live with instability, but what I really have issues with a random = render glitches that I have to manually find and fix. The big issue I = had when using form a few weeks ago was that some frames would randomly = render with alpha only, and only black in the colour channels. I haven=E2=80=99t had any issues with Particular, but I=E2=80=99m using = it right now so I=E2=80=99ll see how it goes=E2=80=A6 -Chris > On 18 Apr 2018, at 7:00 am, Michael Powers = wrote: >=20 > The Trapcode products used to be dependable workhorses - now they are = buggy, undependable trouble spots that I need support for nearly every = time I use them. Is anyone else having problems with the new suite = products? > =20 > I'll be replacing with plugins like Stardust soon. > =20 > =20 > =20 > Mike Powers > Director of Animation \ Cramer > =20 > 781.278.2354 > mpowers@cramer.com > https://vimeo.com/mpowers > 3DBOXX W8920Processor 32.0 GB RAM=20 > Dual Xeon CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz, 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical = Processor(s) > Windows 10 Enterprise - 1709 (OS Build 16299.64) > NVIDIA GTX TITAN Black RAM 6.0 GB Driver Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA = 388.31 --Apple-Mail=_BAB95484-CC0C-487C-B9C6-078BACD68A74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I = use particular and form a lot, almost every day.  Not so much their = other plugins, although shine and starglow still get used often enough. =  I haven=E2=80=99t used Mir or Tao because they need a GPU and the = two studios where I do the most work have render farms that don=E2=80=99t = have GPUs (Mac Minis and windows blades).  That alone is a bit = irritating.

I just = finished a project that relied on Form and I had some big issues on both = Mac and Windows machines.  It was quite tedious and cost me over a = day of work on a very tight deadline.  I raised a support ticket = and I=E2=80=99ll see what happens.  I suspect some of the problems = will be blamed on a custom obj.

I can live with instability, but what I = really have issues with a random render glitches that I have to manually = find and fix.  The big issue I had when using form a  few = weeks ago was that some frames would randomly render with alpha only, = and only black in the colour channels.

I haven=E2=80=99t had any issues with = Particular, but I=E2=80=99m using it right now so I=E2=80=99ll see how = it goes=E2=80=A6


-Chris

On 18 Apr 2018, at 7:00 am, Michael Powers <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

The Trapcode products used to be = dependable workhorses - now they are buggy, undependable trouble spots = that I need support for nearly every time I use them. Is anyone else = having problems with the new suite products?
 
I'll be = replacing with plugins like Stardust soon.
 
 
 

Mike = Powers
Director of Animation \ Cramer
 
781.278.2354
mpowers@cramer.com

https://vimeo.com/mpowers

3DBOXX = W8920Processor          = 32.0 GB RAM 
Dual Xeon CPU = E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz, 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
Windows 10 Enterprise - 1709 (OS = Build 16299.64)
NVIDIA GTX TITAN = Black RAM  6.0 GB     Driver = Version   2.1.2 NVIDIA = 388.31

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