From: "Teddy Gage" Received: from mail-qt0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6444701 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 02 May 2018 18:35:10 +0200 Received: by mail-qt0-f180.google.com with SMTP id m16-v6so19180886qtg.13 for ; Wed, 02 May 2018 09:41:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hnol6SLEhVCn3A+vQ4THIpPMeVaTvXc96fVTK+0m4Go=; b=PxIviQCJO9QHfpl/t7DsU4Rn+8v5Vj4nnnfn3hXZqSUZPlD52fSgw21CsUqJBCaxd2 BYyPs5cfb9Ni+TsbM3tgieQDnTjXFnE6CmXaxgTSx9fzWfCUliI+RK0r/rWrabtNkM/u 862ujecnECLzHDiD6fF6UXRx31XQl/kAbaicVWl/OPNTeRVx4PBB0R3piFPJVgyqUDIQ +p9t0rL55Fse28baPZenJVVxmHtUNwATUkAizBGhSAXZ5l999V1Z40f0foeDEkx3ABNq dsCKQyfNh1vAxy9Ajp/5mf4dmjFWm/nNoSz0uqGbjf4SQnnQszcr/SxRIsCdD12kTBQ7 /dpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hnol6SLEhVCn3A+vQ4THIpPMeVaTvXc96fVTK+0m4Go=; b=boJzJfw4VUERMlhSjW8W4w1x7Yu6wchWdLg/FeI/nG3uWdT8HW3mwKTU7jEGFgrCJN q9PVpECD74jPpx740F+KWv0UoDuql7FzBJJ8ub1WN19kFVHAeNPdm5chB+PxNuwZA/Db Omhve9BySW9H1PfXp/JMIONreEpwH+ufZCSwXMR5MoVzx53W7vD4OLP4LuPogqYBc8xK rSJvGblkm95/rbLX2qXBcrRf/YiGu41RuHpaP1cCj4xN3/oWWnEJ1kY9xaKiNQDTPZPL w/pFCjRlzRnqI4fYvFx7m8pWcVHdp54ZDwl170B9Ak3TxNHz3WXsYJKrqxbwNvNPb+bz 1A1A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBawdYGFqaYSCnqTqX3is+MW2OnhPm6zQ6J23L3j2f90mR3Nhhe 5V4tJVV4LXLtYXxz2Yp8bGvul8uSS3+sSzPh6z7dTA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqP2EahXFnwJ3xcoUnank8J4eUOcMkXnANUs98lpygYDeGIMhbyctRZU2s3hqGA9RzL64F/O5Mmjy2TagfLeuY= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2edc:: with SMTP id i28-v6mr15871643qta.401.1525279272957; Wed, 02 May 2018 09:41:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.210.142 with HTTP; Wed, 2 May 2018 09:40:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 12:40:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Calibrating TV monitors used with computers To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003f7c73056b3bc1cb" --0000000000003f7c73056b3bc1cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also - to add, if you are concerned with broadcast color accuracy I'd highly recommend a true broadcast quality reference monitor from somewhere like FSI, that is being fed display from a dedicated blackmagic PCI-e card. Windows / GPU color output quality is notoriously bad. It's all about your signal chain On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Mike, you're not going to get a close match without a decent hardware > calibration tool like the x-rite i1 display pro creating those profiles > from scratch per monitor. A simple color profile loaded from the internet > is not going to take into account the hardware differences to each monito= r, > and is extremely unlikely to match between even the same brand of monitor= , > much less different brands and types. You can also look at Spyder but I'v= e > had bad luck with those. And these tools, in the $150-500 range are reall= y > not going to get you more than a close match between screens. To get true > broadcast-quality color-matching and / or accuracy I'd recommend hiring a > professional with a high-end calibration tool. those can run in the 5 or = 6 > figures, but you can have them come in for a day at a reasonable cost and > rent their hardware / expertise depending on your needs > > On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Michael Powers > wrote: > >> We recently purchased four Samsung MU7000 40=E2=80=99 monitors ($550) fo= r our >> animators. Aside from some annoying edge enhancement, having the a 4k >> workspace and an image that looks much closer to the video walls we main= ly >> use, they are great. >> >> >> >> My question is what is the best way to calibrate them? I have searched >> for .icm color profiles, but there doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be any for TV= monitors. >> Also, is there method for getting true monitors to match the TV monitors= ? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thnx >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike Powers >> Director of Animation \ Cramer >> >> 781.278.2354 >> mpowers@cramer.com >> >> https://vimeo.com/mpowers >> >> 3DBOXX W8920Processor 32.0 GB RAM >> >> Dual Xeon CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz, 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical >> Processor(s) >> >> Windows 10 Enterprise - 1709 (OS Build 16299.64) >> >> NVIDIA GTX TITAN Black RAM 6.0 GB Driver Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA >> 388.31 >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > _____________________________ > Teddy Gage > President > Shotgun Inc. > 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX > SHOTGUNPOST.COM > BKLYN NY 11215 > > --=20 _____________________________ Teddy Gage President Shotgun Inc. 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX SHOTGUNPOST.COM BKLYN NY 11215 --0000000000003f7c73056b3bc1cb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Also - to add, if you are concerned with broadcast color a= ccuracy I'd highly recommend a true broadcast quality reference monitor= from somewhere like FSI, that is being fed display from a dedicated blackm= agic PCI-e card. Windows / GPU color output quality is notoriously bad. It&= #39;s all about your signal chain

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Teddy Gage <teddy= gage@gmail.com> wrote:
Mike, you're not going to get a close match without a dece= nt hardware calibration tool like the x-rite i1 display pro creating those = profiles from scratch per monitor. A simple color profile loaded from the i= nternet is not going to take into account the hardware differences to each = monitor, and is extremely unlikely to match between even the same brand of = monitor, much less different brands and types. You can also look at Spyder = but I've had bad luck with those. And these tools, in the $150-500 rang= e are really not going to get you more than a close match between screens. = To get true broadcast-quality color-matching and / or accuracy I'd reco= mmend hiring a professional with a high-end calibration tool. those can run= in the 5 or 6 figures, but you can have them come in for a day at a reason= able cost and rent their hardware / expertise depending on your needs
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On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Michael Powers <= ;AE-List@media= -motion.tv> wrote:

We recently purchased four Samsung MU7000 40=E2=80= =99 monitors ($550) for our animators. Aside from some annoying edge enhanc= ement, having the a 4k workspace and an image that looks much closer to the= video walls we mainly use, they are great.

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My question is what is the best way to calibrate the= m? I have searched for .icm color profiles, but there doesn=E2=80=99t seem = to be any for TV monitors. Also, is there method for getting true monitors = to match the TV monitors?

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