From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-it0-f53.google.com ([209.85.214.53] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6451172 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 16 May 2018 20:20:19 +0200 Received: by mail-it0-f53.google.com with SMTP id 144-v6so4325250iti.5 for ; Wed, 16 May 2018 11:26:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=oFPB4ol6q3wzvRsEQlA+AXgbZoGJFGzb991StsNp74Q=; b=sOx29IN7jc0a1/fmQziMgTsyjhhs0ltSA9/KlzRlC/h7ztFKMH2iGSiqRrSPcImrzV 3s+XOJpxn1oPhgd6l1xUncuh/dYkZ/82uzePiJV1Xdq+NqK10eBIbcpiJg1YAjuzJ9Wf sboYKoMlq/Buc91KabVxQhKohBSS4mOdvf37aBmGu2hMxXJdo1wO6JkecZSlI5nLbvT7 XqpwtMGEkGd83Ts6EzJi3edsi7bmhaVXjz4qqokoTI5nFZu8bQwY5lfToN3h9siddb/s 23pX31LaafhFqr+R/iFdCqCMoJ1SzbctI6Dm1n5yn/htcVBuUJkrbG19774d8JyTa4/9 INCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=oFPB4ol6q3wzvRsEQlA+AXgbZoGJFGzb991StsNp74Q=; b=uatQg/Xm6A3wCHJ71DSzDB1KhxLKmhKqhk4m3qoWGK0twesXqRxTLIgt2bZp1URrkB 9WCjeZh/lwb+YiRfjAVnI5fV0Tx3l0XPF0PhInKtxbv+UuIRuOMBfS82vvPAYpHVP/Gu 73Z9EftxFdIuBKmZPjxk80qGcLh1faffTpSCw5CA9PL8NGasFl3kH+k/NPB+eQ+cSPD9 rsSWpklf4UEE1M1MQzIc9zdeHyeqzAfWdAoSF9AMV65fMxq7T6lsWaTQuDS+f1vAwYqs BBYvjg9MpI5t1EmXPzFMC1btXDdiQ4M8fnbvgzwXi5fes6X8ua+MI+tygPuZebNB0Ppx BeAg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwfymM2aHxBuwrNicu6C8i9BazTTxBCRE50CRXVP0D6eWpwi5FwN Axl3hrz+R3njtN3qiBNFIoA+a09LDjKhYXNAGKk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpLOSR2A5tP+A0Ft9gfrRMRWkc+WYOYoFJcues2wOVi+Di7g2YJxJapmWy+TF25LbNI+Nm7LRVeuaSRoIwO3Sk= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:90c6:: with SMTP id s189-v6mr2151864iod.95.1526495209556; Wed, 16 May 2018 11:26:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:3b51:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2018 11:26:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 21:26:09 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Premiere mogrt issue To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b78dc6056c56dcaf" --000000000000b78dc6056c56dcaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim. that's a nice old school full proof approach. I think I found a faster way to suits my needs, see if it suits yours: I tested 2 other ways for doing titles for premiere: 1. Ae's Live Text Template - create an Ae composition with one text title and import that to Premiere 2. Ae's Mogrt - add the source text to the EGP, export Mogrt, import to Premiere using the EGP. guess what? once again LLT wins. I can update my Ae comp and immediately see the change in Pr (don't even have to save!, but I'd better so if Ae closes). now in Premiere. I can duplicate my titles, change the text in Premiere's ECP. and anything else - do in Ae. including Animation BTW. if I do it the Ae Mogrt way. I would have to re-export the mogrt each time, and replace all the clips in premiere (now with the new Alt+drag, I can do it globally) so, as long as all the text titles need to have the same general properties, and I don't have to be specific in editing each one's formatting and only want a global formatting or transformation change, the LLT is very fast and good. I can add a drop shadow in premiere for some of them or change the color if I need to. a year since Adobe launched Mogrt, still needs to be more robust for accommodating global changes. LTT Rules :) On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Adam Mercado wrote: > This is a great workflow Jim. Thx for sharing. I will certainly be > adopting it from now on. For a mature produce from a mature creative tool > publisher like Adobe, the Premier text/title tool is shamefully and > woefully bad. > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 15, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > > I don=E2=80=99t believe there is, and this is a big part of why I do my s= tatic > titles in Ae. The new Text feature in Pr sucks as bad as the old Title > Tool, IMO. > > I make them one frame in length, render out a PNG+ alpha image sequence > that I import into Pr as individual files. > > What this enables me to do is go into the Ae Comp, Select All, and change > fonts, sizes, color, leading, tracking, etc. all at once. > > I create Text in Ae as Paragraph Text so that I can easily adjust the > width of lines of text and the line breaks are automatic. > > I start my first title with more or less how I want the title to look, an= d > then Duplicate it for Title #2, and so on. > > If I make changes, just re-render the frames I need using Work Area, and > they update automatically in Pr. > > > I do a fair amount of foreign language versions that have static titles, > and this is the fastest way I=E2=80=99ve found to knock them out. If any= body has a > better / faster way, please clue us in. > > HTH, Roel. > > Jim C. > > > > > On May 15, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Roei Tzoref wrote: > > Hey Friends. Hope you are well. I have just started a project using > Premiere Titles and got a question: in premiere is there a way to copy > paste text attributes from one motion graphics title to another? > =E2=80=8B > =E2=80=8BI want this so I could keep the text itself. > =E2=80=8B > =E2=80=8BI see I can create a master style but this only the typeface and= color. > I want to copy transform properties from one title to another. isn't ther= e > an easy way to do that? > =E2=80=8B > =E2=80=8Bpaste attributes ignores the transform of a text layer in the EG= P. I see > no way of copy paste transform properties from one text layer clip to > another. > =E2=80=8B > =E2=80=8Bnothing in the adobe help address this. > > Example: If I created a simple credit title, duplicated it a few times in > the timeline (changing the text) and then I see I need to actually make i= t > smaller and with drop shadow. No way to so this for all the layers at onc= e? > Or copy paste just these changed properties to all the text clips so the > text remains but properties will change? > =E2=80=8B > =E2=80=8B > =E2=80=8B > > > --000000000000b78dc6056c56dcaf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Jim. that's a nice old school full proof approa= ch. I think I found a faster way to suits my needs, see if it suits yours:<= br>
I tested 2 other ways for doing titles for premiere:
1. Ae's= Live Text Template - create an Ae composition with one text title and impo= rt that to Premiere
2. Ae's Mogrt - add the source text to the EGP, = export Mogrt, import to Premiere using the EGP.

guess what? once aga= in LLT wins. I can update my Ae comp and immediately see the change in Pr (= don't even have to save!, but I'd better so if Ae closes). now in P= remiere. I can duplicate my titles, change the text in Premiere's ECP. = and anything else - do in Ae. including Animation BTW.=C2=A0

if I do= it the Ae Mogrt way. I would have to re-export the mogrt each time, and re= place all the clips in premiere (now with the new Alt+drag, I can do it glo= bally)

so, as long as all the text titles need to have the same gene= ral properties, and I don't have to be specific in editing each one'= ;s formatting and only want a global formatting or transformation change, t= he LLT is very fast and good. I can add a drop shadow in premiere for some = of them or change the color if I need to.

a year s= ince Adobe launched Mogrt, still needs to be more robust for accommodating = global changes.=C2=A0

LTT Rules :)=C2=A0

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Adam M= ercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
This is a great workflow Jim. Thx for= sharing. I will certainly be adopting it from now on. For a mature produce= from a mature creative tool publisher like Adobe, the Premier text/title t= ool is shamefully and woefully bad.=C2=A0

Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2018, at 1:04 P= M, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I don=E2=80=99t believe there is, and this is a big part of why= I do my static titles in Ae.=C2=A0 The new Text feature in Pr sucks as bad= as the old Title Tool, IMO.

I make them one frame in le= ngth, render out a PNG+ alpha image sequence that I import into Pr as indiv= idual files.

What this enables me to do is go into= the Ae Comp, Select All, and change fonts, sizes, color, leading, tracking= , etc. all at once.

I create Text in Ae as Paragra= ph Text so that I can easily adjust the width of lines of text and the line= breaks are automatic.

I start my first title with= more or less how I want the title to look, and then Duplicate it for Title= #2, and so on.

If I make changes, just re-render = the frames I need using Work Area, and they update automatically in Pr.


I do a fair amount of foreign language= versions that have static titles, and this is the fastest way I=E2=80=99ve= found to knock them out.=C2=A0 If anybody has a better / faster way, pleas= e clue us in.

HTH, Roel.

= Jim C.




On May 15, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-mot= ion.tv> wrote:

Hey Friends. Hope = you are well. I have just started a project using Premiere Titles and got a= question: in premiere is there a way to copy paste text attributes from on= e motion graphics title to another?=C2=A0
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=E2=80=8B<= /span>I want this so I could keep the text itself.=C2=A0
=E2=80=8B<= br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Arial,= Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">=E2= =80=8BI see I can create a master style but this only the typeface an= d color. I want to copy transform properties from one title to another. isn= 't there an easy way to do that?
=E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8Bpaste attribute= s ignores the transform of a text layer in the EGP. I see no way of copy pa= ste transform properties from one text layer clip to another.
=E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8Bnothing in the adobe help address this.=C2=A0

Example: If I created a simple credit= title, duplicated it a few times in the timeline (changing the text) and t= hen I see I need to actually make it smaller and with drop shadow. No way t= o so this for all the layers at once? Or copy paste just these changed prop= erties to all the text clips so the text remains but properties will change= ?
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