From: "Robert Kjettrup" Received: from mail-wr0-f182.google.com ([209.85.128.182] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6451183 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 16 May 2018 20:37:54 +0200 Received: by mail-wr0-f182.google.com with SMTP id p5-v6so2715986wre.12 for ; Wed, 16 May 2018 11:44:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=E94ZfBM7MdmoqwkcE1ppL6BDI7jfu9jy3KAq4NE1s2A=; b=fk9vUTMHsBrE+LpnppFhWDn7Hwv7sQhfw6xqUBzK69V7QHmOFQ5J+W6GKdqR/36psw SWmjdxLZkxO96J7wIYFueBY8RFPCVJPK6MvjULm6P0DRenzsdGFmp4aOUmWANsgzOg7h fKqRPn+hSAzQNx+wpe76N+xpyBg6nHofeBHl4mIp5i9yJvBuc47s5EOkdlu4FQj3CUHY DVpX6nnYSNBVUH0Lphz8Pcck1VIRevoJYcPLYECwozXHkVg0Z1vD/3YLzT15xO3Slikq KlLfBLDnu+0rVuTquhjyELbTSWyvT5nLjO1WDsQDWoAK6La3dTDQ/IyAxjea94g+FlVD 43WQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=E94ZfBM7MdmoqwkcE1ppL6BDI7jfu9jy3KAq4NE1s2A=; b=NU/LXkozyB+Nd3e4s+Ef2QLVCfHeUgZb6g/wEQed4vyKHaOe/kYg7Rz4LI4fGirgB0 hU9kTyRg4w8Zfinm+Zu4EloAhAeAkoBeSPDKVwir1+rgOylmQyjvAa1MhhHn/KlIrJe/ +9AxiT6yNC4tX84jmy9vVz0mQJyt3egZ1ca4VZUkDUMMVzChi/fLtHCrEuHpF8X6iiBg qFuB70b6IHt/UMZPjbnWsI2p3vUqQMNmBxEbOUFZMyagCu3ZT4s7K9m5Hg9r9YLGTOW+ u7D1jFa+aU1N1AytDmLRbRm9n+shPfo8a8ETsYQnZciEzmvMrHyxmpfmj5b+6YtcE72N hmgg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwecHpjbZif/cHA5llpurWpJDCfIQ5s3UTpd4M8G7yBktTtqXgMZ m0WRkayJS8B/4QMt7chOWXHZ141XCsnjjPI1bEI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZr/cInt6w19y5C/C/X79Sufed+SDkI9mzxB8vgMrFN+gAnTepgmZbKiY7SYZoSZwOXCw3omAyLV3fQjyLb8N9M= X-Received: by 2002:a19:27c2:: with SMTP id n185-v6mr15395597lfn.25.1526496265979; Wed, 16 May 2018 11:44:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.46.137.216 with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2018 11:44:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 20:44:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Premiere mogrt issue To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000af4d21056c571b08" --000000000000af4d21056c571b08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, LTT, or as they are called in previous-year-Adobe-Lingo: Dynamic Link, is actually quite fast and very usable as long as you keep the AE project file small and simple. This is also the way i do it if i know i dont have to deliver the Premiere project file to someone else. Lots of things are so much simpler and faster to set up in AE vs the new Graphics module of Premiere. If i need to be sure it works with other editors Premiere setup, and the texts doesn't need any animation that cant be done inside Premiere, i often just set up the text in Photoshop on several layers and import those layers into Premiere. This was the text layers are still "live" if any changes needs to be done but will act as regular pixel layers in Premiere since Photoshop saves a rasterized version of the text layer in the PSD. Robert 2018-05-16 20:26 GMT+02:00 Roei Tzoref : > Thanks Jim. that's a nice old school full proof approach. I think I found > a faster way to suits my needs, see if it suits yours: > > I tested 2 other ways for doing titles for premiere: > 1. Ae's Live Text Template - create an Ae composition with one text title > and import that to Premiere > 2. Ae's Mogrt - add the source text to the EGP, export Mogrt, import to > Premiere using the EGP. > > guess what? once again LLT wins. I can update my Ae comp and immediately > see the change in Pr (don't even have to save!, but I'd better so if Ae > closes). now in Premiere. I can duplicate my titles, change the text in > Premiere's ECP. and anything else - do in Ae. including Animation BTW. > > if I do it the Ae Mogrt way. I would have to re-export the mogrt each > time, and replace all the clips in premiere (now with the new Alt+drag, I > can do it globally) > > so, as long as all the text titles need to have the same general > properties, and I don't have to be specific in editing each one's > formatting and only want a global formatting or transformation change, th= e > LLT is very fast and good. I can add a drop shadow in premiere for some o= f > them or change the color if I need to. > > a year since Adobe launched Mogrt, still needs to be more robust for > accommodating global changes. > > LTT Rules :) > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Adam Mercado > wrote: > >> This is a great workflow Jim. Thx for sharing. I will certainly be >> adopting it from now on. For a mature produce from a mature creative too= l >> publisher like Adobe, the Premier text/title tool is shamefully and >> woefully bad. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 15, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> >> I don=E2=80=99t believe there is, and this is a big part of why I do my = static >> titles in Ae. The new Text feature in Pr sucks as bad as the old Title >> Tool, IMO. >> >> I make them one frame in length, render out a PNG+ alpha image sequence >> that I import into Pr as individual files. >> >> What this enables me to do is go into the Ae Comp, Select All, and chang= e >> fonts, sizes, color, leading, tracking, etc. all at once. >> >> I create Text in Ae as Paragraph Text so that I can easily adjust the >> width of lines of text and the line breaks are automatic. >> >> I start my first title with more or less how I want the title to look, >> and then Duplicate it for Title #2, and so on. >> >> If I make changes, just re-render the frames I need using Work Area, and >> they update automatically in Pr. >> >> >> I do a fair amount of foreign language versions that have static titles, >> and this is the fastest way I=E2=80=99ve found to knock them out. If an= ybody has a >> better / faster way, please clue us in. >> >> HTH, Roel. >> >> Jim C. >> >> >> >> >> On May 15, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Roei Tzoref wrote= : >> >> Hey Friends. Hope you are well. I have just started a project using >> Premiere Titles and got a question: in premiere is there a way to copy >> paste text attributes from one motion graphics title to another? >> =E2=80=8B >> =E2=80=8BI want this so I could keep the text itself. >> =E2=80=8B >> =E2=80=8BI see I can create a master style but this only the typeface an= d color. >> I want to copy transform properties from one title to another. isn't the= re >> an easy way to do that? >> =E2=80=8B >> =E2=80=8Bpaste attributes ignores the transform of a text layer in the E= GP. I see >> no way of copy paste transform properties from one text layer clip to >> another. >> =E2=80=8B >> =E2=80=8Bnothing in the adobe help address this. >> >> Example: If I created a simple credit title, duplicated it a few times i= n >> the timeline (changing the text) and then I see I need to actually make = it >> smaller and with drop shadow. No way to so this for all the layers at on= ce? >> Or copy paste just these changed properties to all the text clips so the >> text remains but properties will change? >> =E2=80=8B >> =E2=80=8B >> =E2=80=8B >> >> >> > --000000000000af4d21056c571b08 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yes, LTT, or as they are called in previous-year-Adobe-Lin= go: Dynamic Link, is actually quite fast and very usable as long as you kee= p the AE project file small and simple. This is also the way i do it if i k= now i dont have to deliver the Premiere project file to someone else.
L= ots of things are so much simpler and faster to set up in AE vs the new Gra= phics module of Premiere.

If i need to be sure it = works with other editors Premiere setup, and the texts doesn't need any= animation that cant be done inside Premiere, i often just set up the text = in Photoshop on several layers and import those layers into Premiere. This = was the text layers are still "live" if any changes needs to be d= one but will act as regular pixel layers in Premiere since Photoshop saves = a rasterized version of the text layer in the PSD.

Robert



<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">2018-05-16 20:26 GMT+02:00 Roei Tzoref <A= E-List@media-motion.tv>:
Thanks Jim. that's a nice old school full proof approach= . I think I found a faster way to suits my needs, see if it suits yours:
I tested 2 other ways for doing titles for premiere:
1. Ae's L= ive Text Template - create an Ae composition with one text title and import= that to Premiere
2. Ae's Mogrt - add the source text to the EGP, ex= port Mogrt, import to Premiere using the EGP.

guess what? once again= LLT wins. I can update my Ae comp and immediately see the change in Pr (do= n't even have to save!, but I'd better so if Ae closes). now in Pre= miere. I can duplicate my titles, change the text in Premiere's ECP. an= d anything else - do in Ae. including Animation BTW.=C2=A0

if I do i= t the Ae Mogrt way. I would have to re-export the mogrt each time, and repl= ace all the clips in premiere (now with the new Alt+drag, I can do it globa= lly)

so, as long as all the text titles need to have the same genera= l properties, and I don't have to be specific in editing each one's= formatting and only want a global formatting or transformation change, the= LLT is very fast and good. I can add a drop shadow in premiere for some of= them or change the color if I need to.

a year sin= ce Adobe launched Mogrt, still needs to be more robust for accommodating gl= obal changes.=C2=A0

LTT Rules :)=C2=A0
<= div class=3D"gmail_extra">
On Wed, May 16, 20= 18 at 4:42 AM, Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
This is a great = workflow Jim. Thx for sharing. I will certainly be adopting it from now on.= For a mature produce from a mature creative tool publisher like Adobe, the= Premier text/title tool is shamefully and woefully bad.=C2=A0

Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Jim Cur= tis <AE-Lis= t@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I don=E2=80=99t believe there is, and this is a big part of why I do my s= tatic titles in Ae.=C2=A0 The new Text feature in Pr sucks as bad as the ol= d Title Tool, IMO.

I make them one frame in length, rend= er out a PNG+ alpha image sequence that I import into Pr as individual file= s.

What this enables me to do is go into the Ae Co= mp, Select All, and change fonts, sizes, color, leading, tracking, etc. all= at once.

I create Text in Ae as Paragraph Text so= that I can easily adjust the width of lines of text and the line breaks ar= e automatic.

I start my first title with more or l= ess how I want the title to look, and then Duplicate it for Title #2, and s= o on.

If I make changes, just re-render the frames= I need using Work Area, and they update automatically in Pr.

I do a fair amount of foreign language versions = that have static titles, and this is the fastest way I=E2=80=99ve found to = knock them out.=C2=A0 If anybody has a better / faster way, please clue us = in.

HTH, Roel.

Jim C.




On May 15, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv= > wrote:

Hey Fr= iends. Hope you are well. I have just started a project using Premiere Titl= es and got a question: in premiere is there a way to copy paste text attrib= utes from one motion graphics title to another?=C2=A0
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=E2=80=8BI see I can create a master style but this only the= typeface and color. I want to copy transform properties from one title to = another. isn't there an easy way to do that?
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