From: "Byron Nash" Received: from mail-qt0-f170.google.com ([209.85.216.170] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6451182 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 16 May 2018 21:19:17 +0200 Received: by mail-qt0-f170.google.com with SMTP id e8-v6so2650657qth.0 for ; Wed, 16 May 2018 12:25:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=x77W21LzDcdKqhhkd7kWPoZosl1g6Y3ttTeVDaUzZ38=; b=Hc3c1hqVrx5E2zdVT5v8chMH23LjAzb/p8oxScW/yabC5BC148ji56A6R6tDF0u6Kw SuzWaiQF8wu3fSC0I0TW5YmVhTSbAkozs6bCtmuz+nu+ZQI2R+9JmQFepS8rcLF/Wdnp nLO2rQzhk6R9uS5Q54/aOY6UozLt/lszypVRlpOP7eQPv/v2/nGqw7hsTPZPsPKO7qFW cZ2IEYi0uDxyp49o4RQayutTLWLU2ECIC95W20Tx4nNVa6Qb6uVSWdNKiXpnNH8WVVH2 3JEMq+DQENHE/zbaTZIyrlpouFQqqtmPEN7WCL4O+8mPX/j5rsvnlIb9ho1jA/XJ24Wf kdew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=x77W21LzDcdKqhhkd7kWPoZosl1g6Y3ttTeVDaUzZ38=; b=QgVHD1OQ6gAyfX++7kMjxDZZuLEuweFLlzEpSIC7mpDIMoDsgCizL706BJuDd64J+Z v6BTEDJ4IfUpeyVmVMOzUU2QIf5nOfGXwsunnIyzsazrP9Tp4qb8AIDXjzWQInINuTR0 2lNte13vdKCZRj6PdkCXhCalTQyilsb0kbkGtxB+X4cisD4tnKqCSBQN92J+00Z58V2E VcV6Btx89YkUvKHvx5k6U6D1xL/R+GHpGBzhE0qjqi26VRrGm87aGm7gxw1mzNT742D3 U2YTgnOfZknbwDAmqR6dJGPMczcWJcZ1aChCkPu9DfuOQk13aqn/fuxbi0T9REcz9sXF tYfw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPweGMigB2z1ncjd4dwkpq8X++VzcrlaiBQdiLyU2JgecoLFU4n6f QeliTaiew7pqjaVdYnKZH7FQXxyRtpnrCA6X2RQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpNt+c33iLlQycKgbyRFVLx0AsZjsmggROX3xGscAOi56A7VxTRACGHfbSn8E0h5R96u3FGWuN2PZLLrBf6KMI= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:30a1:: with SMTP id v30-v6mr2392283qta.296.1526498748164; Wed, 16 May 2018 12:25:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 15:25:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Premiere mogrt issue To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a26db4056c57af32" --000000000000a26db4056c57af32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But didn't they remove the Live Text Templates from AE? I'm experimenting with the Essential Motion Graphics templates now and so far having some good experiences. The global settings is a bit of an issue though. Should have some way to both maintain global control and allow local variations. On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:45 PM Robert Kjettrup wrote: > yes, LTT, or as they are called in previous-year-Adobe-Lingo: Dynamic > Link, is actually quite fast and very usable as long as you keep the AE > project file small and simple. This is also the way i do it if i know i > dont have to deliver the Premiere project file to someone else. > Lots of things are so much simpler and faster to set up in AE vs the new > Graphics module of Premiere. > > If i need to be sure it works with other editors Premiere setup, and the > texts doesn't need any animation that cant be done inside Premiere, i oft= en > just set up the text in Photoshop on several layers and import those laye= rs > into Premiere. This was the text layers are still "live" if any changes > needs to be done but will act as regular pixel layers in Premiere since > Photoshop saves a rasterized version of the text layer in the PSD. > > Robert > > > > 2018-05-16 20:26 GMT+02:00 Roei Tzoref : > >> Thanks Jim. that's a nice old school full proof approach. I think I foun= d >> a faster way to suits my needs, see if it suits yours: >> >> I tested 2 other ways for doing titles for premiere: >> 1. Ae's Live Text Template - create an Ae composition with one text titl= e >> and import that to Premiere >> 2. Ae's Mogrt - add the source text to the EGP, export Mogrt, import to >> Premiere using the EGP. >> >> guess what? once again LLT wins. I can update my Ae comp and immediately >> see the change in Pr (don't even have to save!, but I'd better so if Ae >> closes). now in Premiere. I can duplicate my titles, change the text in >> Premiere's ECP. and anything else - do in Ae. including Animation BTW. >> >> if I do it the Ae Mogrt way. I would have to re-export the mogrt each >> time, and replace all the clips in premiere (now with the new Alt+drag, = I >> can do it globally) >> >> so, as long as all the text titles need to have the same general >> properties, and I don't have to be specific in editing each one's >> formatting and only want a global formatting or transformation change, t= he >> LLT is very fast and good. I can add a drop shadow in premiere for some = of >> them or change the color if I need to. >> >> a year since Adobe launched Mogrt, still needs to be more robust for >> accommodating global changes. >> >> LTT Rules :) >> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Adam Mercado >> wrote: >> >>> This is a great workflow Jim. Thx for sharing. I will certainly be >>> adopting it from now on. For a mature produce from a mature creative to= ol >>> publisher like Adobe, the Premier text/title tool is shamefully and >>> woefully bad. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On May 15, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Jim Curtis wrote= : >>> >>> I don=E2=80=99t believe there is, and this is a big part of why I do my= static >>> titles in Ae. The new Text feature in Pr sucks as bad as the old Title >>> Tool, IMO. >>> >>> I make them one frame in length, render out a PNG+ alpha image sequence >>> that I import into Pr as individual files. >>> >>> What this enables me to do is go into the Ae Comp, Select All, and >>> change fonts, sizes, color, leading, tracking, etc. all at once. >>> >>> I create Text in Ae as Paragraph Text so that I can easily adjust the >>> width of lines of text and the line breaks are automatic. >>> >>> I start my first title with more or less how I want the title to look, >>> and then Duplicate it for Title #2, and so on. >>> >>> If I make changes, just re-render the frames I need using Work Area, an= d >>> they update automatically in Pr. >>> >>> >>> I do a fair amount of foreign language versions that have static titles= , >>> and this is the fastest way I=E2=80=99ve found to knock them out. If a= nybody has a >>> better / faster way, please clue us in. >>> >>> HTH, Roel. >>> >>> Jim C. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 15, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Roei Tzoref >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Friends. Hope you are well. I have just started a project using >>> Premiere Titles and got a question: in premiere is there a way to copy >>> paste text attributes from one motion graphics title to another? >>> =E2=80=8B >>> =E2=80=8BI want this so I could keep the text itself. >>> =E2=80=8B >>> =E2=80=8BI see I can create a master style but this only the typeface a= nd >>> color. I want to copy transform properties from one title to another. i= sn't >>> there an easy way to do that? >>> =E2=80=8B >>> =E2=80=8Bpaste attributes ignores the transform of a text layer in the = EGP. I >>> see no way of copy paste transform properties from one text layer clip = to >>> another. >>> =E2=80=8B >>> =E2=80=8Bnothing in the adobe help address this. >>> >>> Example: If I created a simple credit title, duplicated it a few times >>> in the timeline (changing the text) and then I see I need to actually m= ake >>> it smaller and with drop shadow. No way to so this for all the layers a= t >>> once? Or copy paste just these changed properties to all the text clips= so >>> the text remains but properties will change? >>> =E2=80=8B >>> =E2=80=8B >>> =E2=80=8B >>> >>> >>> >> > --000000000000a26db4056c57af32 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
But didn't they remove the Live Text Templates from AE= ? I'm experimenting with the Essential Motion Graphics templates now an= d so far having some good experiences. The global settings is a bit of an i= ssue though. Should have some way to both maintain global control and allow= local variations.

On = Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:45 PM Robert Kjettrup <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
yes, LTT, or as they are called in pr= evious-year-Adobe-Lingo: Dynamic Link, is actually quite fast and very usab= le as long as you keep the AE project file small and simple. This is also t= he way i do it if i know i dont have to deliver the Premiere project file t= o someone else.
Lots of things are so much simpler and faster to set up= in AE vs the new Graphics module of Premiere.

If = i need to be sure it works with other editors Premiere setup, and the texts= doesn't need any animation that cant be done inside Premiere, i often = just set up the text in Photoshop on several layers and import those layers= into Premiere. This was the text layers are still "live" if any = changes needs to be done but will act as regular pixel layers in Premiere s= ince Photoshop saves a rasterized version of the text layer in the PSD.

Robert



2018-05-16 20:26 GMT+02:00 Roei Tzoref = <AE-List@me= dia-motion.tv>:
Thanks Jim. that's a nice old school full proof approach. I think= I found a faster way to suits my needs, see if it suits yours:

I te= sted 2 other ways for doing titles for premiere:
1. Ae's Live Text = Template - create an Ae composition with one text title and import that to = Premiere
2. Ae's Mogrt - add the source text to the EGP, export Mogr= t, import to Premiere using the EGP.

guess what? once again LLT wins= . I can update my Ae comp and immediately see the change in Pr (don't e= ven have to save!, but I'd better so if Ae closes). now in Premiere. I = can duplicate my titles, change the text in Premiere's ECP. and anythin= g else - do in Ae. including Animation BTW.=C2=A0

if I do it the Ae = Mogrt way. I would have to re-export the mogrt each time, and replace all t= he clips in premiere (now with the new Alt+drag, I can do it globally)
<= br>so, as long as all the text titles need to have the same general propert= ies, and I don't have to be specific in editing each one's formatti= ng and only want a global formatting or transformation change, the LLT is v= ery fast and good. I can add a drop shadow in premiere for some of them or = change the color if I need to.

a year since Adobe = launched Mogrt, still needs to be more robust for accommodating global chan= ges.=C2=A0

LTT Rules :)=C2=A0

On Wed= , May 16, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv= > wrote:
This= is a great workflow Jim. Thx for sharing. I will certainly be adopting it = from now on. For a mature produce from a mature creative tool publisher lik= e Adobe, the Premier text/title tool is shamefully and woefully bad.=C2=A0<= br>
Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv= > wrote:

I don=E2=80=99t bel= ieve there is, and this is a big part of why I do my static titles in Ae.= =C2=A0 The new Text feature in Pr sucks as bad as the old Title Tool, IMO.<= div>
I make them one frame in length, render out a PNG+ alpha= image sequence that I import into Pr as individual files.

What this enables me to do is go into the Ae Comp, Select All, and= change fonts, sizes, color, leading, tracking, etc. all at once.

I create Text in Ae as Paragraph Text so that I can easily = adjust the width of lines of text and the line breaks are automatic.
<= div>
I start my first title with more or less how I want the = title to look, and then Duplicate it for Title #2, and so on.
If I make changes, just re-render the frames I need using Work = Area, and they update automatically in Pr.


I do a fair amount of foreign language versions that have static ti= tles, and this is the fastest way I=E2=80=99ve found to knock them out.=C2= =A0 If anybody has a better / faster way, please clue us in.

=
HTH, Roel.

Jim C.

<= div>


O= n May 15, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
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Hey= Friends. Hope you are well. I have just started a project using Premiere T= itles and got a question: in premiere is there a way to copy paste text att= ributes from one motion graphics title to another?=C2=A0
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=E2=80=8BI want this so I could keep the text itself.=C2=A0
= = =E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8BI see I can create a master style but this only = the typeface and color. I want to copy transform properties from one title = to another. isn't there an easy way to do that?
=E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8B= paste attributes ignores the transform of a text layer in the EGP. I see no= way of copy paste transform properties from one text layer clip to another= .
=E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8Bnothing in the adobe help address this.=C2=A0

Example: If I created = a simple credit title, duplicated it a few times in the timeline (changing = the text) and then I see I need to actually make it smaller and with drop s= hadow. No way to so this for all the layers at once? Or copy paste just the= se changed properties to all the text clips so the text remains but propert= ies will change?
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