From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-it0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6451204 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 16 May 2018 21:59:27 +0200 Received: by mail-it0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z6-v6so5128193iti.4 for ; Wed, 16 May 2018 13:05:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=huOX5ev5lHZZGmmYPVdQBRLquf3muSBm+tGENdMjZac=; b=StZfU5s2IK6YpxdRdz2iBnWtcP1nEqYqigUmSjGGcbKeYVZLl/ziRfXwrfx196428U djFld4hg6x8oiYaAJ2NuDJ4WOPWoLOD9MmIvk4DJHWYezoLuuzKk0RdrN+MeeRRJG1n7 Y+ossKjbZBiVhCpPPOhF1KUHc40RkNyuFS3EN1OdHuMIH4Ogax776k6VsPJuBc6dsyzn qkS26RB6ltjJzgunUOSmR/d6f8+k1+f3AfnZJ+4sdbs3tv/jBcEBx9qXTKsaauS59QiY 4hkcnt9ZnvXYd1ULoeU3e3/uSrWCNxNQ9xQe17LuQncg4o9nxDgkXddCnnqQhxB74R8S X8VQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=huOX5ev5lHZZGmmYPVdQBRLquf3muSBm+tGENdMjZac=; b=faznFiqZX/4YTBtfjNVjXHo1ErxUv+DmxMcd62OSAtdtJj9W2bzkh0FCtVI9P5+YIc vYMqx80sqDTFTzuQZnvEeF2sxDehecyERCXjZxcfAoDrJrIXpAB6buRqecM5awZi337V 5b5Wg6qWsKMsNRBx8/5Z52Vykp5dtogXXq1hyUoXZ6pFozRBUbURJe1JUB9lB2s3MWOl YwZ+ppnFjC8Vhf/S1OAq+vidtLilGZMQFIzA0Vrl8v1A39WpvuB+JPiLznFUMoVCa/2J hIoIC4PrrfSPiNDLMNHxWM7ISTtYE0DotNpIm/nPfeiCUQtm/uCAwnle6NTnf+oskoaJ D2Ew== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwfMnteM//bWFSNLXkAgJPQmD5TD2tA5sNb9+P4Wafk8da1jajCT yv7h4aIgl3RQp2PIk/ic3VJDcnJlTNxUaK7BdWY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZrli/iO5rXephbGzc5urGEW9BtbCRJ+OGp23Wcq8RWD3v1cJSpNPA0hRJdwpWugQ4akOsprPTEx95xm1Sf/HYI= X-Received: by 2002:a24:a90d:: with SMTP id r13-v6mr2566662ite.119.1526501157878; Wed, 16 May 2018 13:05:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:3b51:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2018 13:05:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 23:05:17 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Premiere mogrt issue To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000043cd0b056c583f53" --00000000000043cd0b056c583f53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Byron, not really. you can import an Ae project to Premiere, select the composition that contains the text layer or layers, and it will DL between the apps giving you ability to change the text in Pr's ECP. do your editing of the layers in Premiere, even add a drop shadow or tint. they will retain the appearance and animation from Ae. Mogrt Global controls, while increased dramatically in the last April update, still needs a lot of work. On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Byron Nash wrote: > But didn't they remove the Live Text Templates from AE? I'm experimenting > with the Essential Motion Graphics templates now and so far having some > good experiences. The global settings is a bit of an issue though. Should > have some way to both maintain global control and allow local variations. > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:45 PM Robert Kjettrup > wrote: > >> yes, LTT, or as they are called in previous-year-Adobe-Lingo: Dynamic >> Link, is actually quite fast and very usable as long as you keep the AE >> project file small and simple. This is also the way i do it if i know i >> dont have to deliver the Premiere project file to someone else. >> Lots of things are so much simpler and faster to set up in AE vs the new >> Graphics module of Premiere. >> >> If i need to be sure it works with other editors Premiere setup, and the >> texts doesn't need any animation that cant be done inside Premiere, i of= ten >> just set up the text in Photoshop on several layers and import those lay= ers >> into Premiere. This was the text layers are still "live" if any changes >> needs to be done but will act as regular pixel layers in Premiere since >> Photoshop saves a rasterized version of the text layer in the PSD. >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> 2018-05-16 20:26 GMT+02:00 Roei Tzoref : >> >>> Thanks Jim. that's a nice old school full proof approach. I think I >>> found a faster way to suits my needs, see if it suits yours: >>> >>> I tested 2 other ways for doing titles for premiere: >>> 1. Ae's Live Text Template - create an Ae composition with one text >>> title and import that to Premiere >>> 2. Ae's Mogrt - add the source text to the EGP, export Mogrt, import to >>> Premiere using the EGP. >>> >>> guess what? once again LLT wins. I can update my Ae comp and immediatel= y >>> see the change in Pr (don't even have to save!, but I'd better so if Ae >>> closes). now in Premiere. I can duplicate my titles, change the text in >>> Premiere's ECP. and anything else - do in Ae. including Animation BTW. >>> >>> if I do it the Ae Mogrt way. I would have to re-export the mogrt each >>> time, and replace all the clips in premiere (now with the new Alt+drag,= I >>> can do it globally) >>> >>> so, as long as all the text titles need to have the same general >>> properties, and I don't have to be specific in editing each one's >>> formatting and only want a global formatting or transformation change, = the >>> LLT is very fast and good. I can add a drop shadow in premiere for some= of >>> them or change the color if I need to. >>> >>> a year since Adobe launched Mogrt, still needs to be more robust for >>> accommodating global changes. >>> >>> LTT Rules :) >>> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Adam Mercado >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This is a great workflow Jim. Thx for sharing. I will certainly be >>>> adopting it from now on. For a mature produce from a mature creative t= ool >>>> publisher like Adobe, the Premier text/title tool is shamefully and >>>> woefully bad. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On May 15, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Jim Curtis >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don=E2=80=99t believe there is, and this is a big part of why I do m= y static >>>> titles in Ae. The new Text feature in Pr sucks as bad as the old Titl= e >>>> Tool, IMO. >>>> >>>> I make them one frame in length, render out a PNG+ alpha image sequenc= e >>>> that I import into Pr as individual files. >>>> >>>> What this enables me to do is go into the Ae Comp, Select All, and >>>> change fonts, sizes, color, leading, tracking, etc. all at once. >>>> >>>> I create Text in Ae as Paragraph Text so that I can easily adjust the >>>> width of lines of text and the line breaks are automatic. >>>> >>>> I start my first title with more or less how I want the title to look, >>>> and then Duplicate it for Title #2, and so on. >>>> >>>> If I make changes, just re-render the frames I need using Work Area, >>>> and they update automatically in Pr. >>>> >>>> >>>> I do a fair amount of foreign language versions that have static >>>> titles, and this is the fastest way I=E2=80=99ve found to knock them o= ut. If >>>> anybody has a better / faster way, please clue us in. >>>> >>>> HTH, Roel. >>>> >>>> Jim C. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 15, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Roei Tzoref >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Friends. Hope you are well. I have just started a project using >>>> Premiere Titles and got a question: in premiere is there a way to copy >>>> paste text attributes from one motion graphics title to another? >>>> =E2=80=8B >>>> =E2=80=8BI want this so I could keep the text itself. >>>> =E2=80=8B >>>> =E2=80=8BI see I can create a master style but this only the typeface = and >>>> color. I want to copy transform properties from one title to another. = isn't >>>> there an easy way to do that? >>>> =E2=80=8B >>>> =E2=80=8Bpaste attributes ignores the transform of a text layer in the= EGP. I >>>> see no way of copy paste transform properties from one text layer clip= to >>>> another. >>>> =E2=80=8B >>>> =E2=80=8Bnothing in the adobe help address this. >>>> >>>> Example: If I created a simple credit title, duplicated it a few times >>>> in the timeline (changing the text) and then I see I need to actually = make >>>> it smaller and with drop shadow. No way to so this for all the layers = at >>>> once? Or copy paste just these changed properties to all the text clip= s so >>>> the text remains but properties will change? >>>> =E2=80=8B >>>> =E2=80=8B >>>> =E2=80=8B >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> --00000000000043cd0b056c583f53 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Byron, not really. you can import an Ae project to Premier= e, select the composition that contains the text layer or layers, and it wi= ll DL between the apps giving you ability to change the text in Pr's EC= P. do your editing of the layers in Premiere, even add a drop shadow or tin= t. they will retain the appearance and animation from Ae.=C2=A0

Mogr= t Global controls, while increased dramatically in the last April update, s= till needs a lot of work.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Byron Nash <AE-List@= media-motion.tv> wrote:
But didn't they remove the Live Text Templates from AE? I= 'm experimenting with the Essential Motion Graphics templates now and s= o far having some good experiences. The global settings is a bit of an issu= e though. Should have some way to both maintain global control and allow lo= cal variations.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:45 PM Robert Kj= ettrup <AE-= List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
yes, LTT, or as they are called in previous-year-Adobe-Li= ngo: Dynamic Link, is actually quite fast and very usable as long as you ke= ep the AE project file small and simple. This is also the way i do it if i = know i dont have to deliver the Premiere project file to someone else.
= Lots of things are so much simpler and faster to set up in AE vs the new Gr= aphics module of Premiere.

If i need to be sure it= works with other editors Premiere setup, and the texts doesn't need an= y animation that cant be done inside Premiere, i often just set up the text= in Photoshop on several layers and import those layers into Premiere. This= was the text layers are still "live" if any changes needs to be = done but will act as regular pixel layers in Premiere since Photoshop saves= a rasterized version of the text layer in the PSD.

Robert

=


20= 18-05-16 20:26 GMT+02:00 Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= ;:
Thanks Jim. th= at's a nice old school full proof approach. I think I found a faster wa= y to suits my needs, see if it suits yours:

I tested 2 other ways fo= r doing titles for premiere:
1. Ae's Live Text Template - create an= Ae composition with one text title and import that to Premiere
2. Ae= 9;s Mogrt - add the source text to the EGP, export Mogrt, import to Premier= e using the EGP.

guess what? once again LLT wins. I can update my Ae= comp and immediately see the change in Pr (don't even have to save!, b= ut I'd better so if Ae closes). now in Premiere. I can duplicate my tit= les, change the text in Premiere's ECP. and anything else - do in Ae. i= ncluding Animation BTW.=C2=A0

if I do it the Ae Mogrt way. I would h= ave to re-export the mogrt each time, and replace all the clips in premiere= (now with the new Alt+drag, I can do it globally)

so, as long as al= l the text titles need to have the same general properties, and I don't= have to be specific in editing each one's formatting and only want a g= lobal formatting or transformation change, the LLT is very fast and good. I= can add a drop shadow in premiere for some of them or change the color if = I need to.

a year since Adobe launched Mogrt, stil= l needs to be more robust for accommodating global changes.=C2=A0

LT= T Rules :)=C2=A0

On W= ed, May 16, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Th= is is a great workflow Jim. Thx for sharing. I will certainly be adopting i= t from now on. For a mature produce from a mature creative tool publisher l= ike Adobe, the Premier text/title tool is shamefully and woefully bad.=C2= =A0

= Sent from my iPad
I don=E2=80=99t believe there is, and this is = a big part of why I do my static titles in Ae.=C2=A0 The new Text feature i= n Pr sucks as bad as the old Title Tool, IMO.

I make the= m one frame in length, render out a PNG+ alpha image sequence that I import= into Pr as individual files.

What this enables me= to do is go into the Ae Comp, Select All, and change fonts, sizes, color, = leading, tracking, etc. all at once.

I create Text= in Ae as Paragraph Text so that I can easily adjust the width of lines of = text and the line breaks are automatic.

I start my= first title with more or less how I want the title to look, and then Dupli= cate it for Title #2, and so on.

If I make changes= , just re-render the frames I need using Work Area, and they update automat= ically in Pr.


I do a fair amount of= foreign language versions that have static titles, and this is the fastest= way I=E2=80=99ve found to knock them out.=C2=A0 If anybody has a better / = faster way, please clue us in.

HTH, Roel.

Jim C.



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On May 15, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Ro= ei Tzoref <= AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hey Friends= . Hope you are well. I have just started a project using Premiere Titles an= d got a question: in premiere is there a way to copy paste text attributes = from one motion graphics title to another?=C2=A0
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=E2=80=8BI see I can create a master style but this only the typefa= ce and color. I want to copy transform properties from one title to another= . isn't there an easy way to do that?
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=E2=80=8Bpaste attr= ibutes ignores the transform of a text layer in the EGP. I see no way of co= py paste transform properties from one text layer clip to another.=E2=80= =8B
=E2=80=8Bnothing in the adobe help address this.=C2=A0

Example: If I created a simple c= redit title, duplicated it a few times in the timeline (changing the text) = and then I see I need to actually make it smaller and with drop shadow. No = way to so this for all the layers at once? Or copy paste just these changed= properties to all the text clips so the text remains but properties will c= hange?
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