From: "Teddy Gage" Received: from mail-qt0-f179.google.com ([209.85.216.179] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6454015 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 22 May 2018 14:54:07 +0200 Received: by mail-qt0-f179.google.com with SMTP id h2-v6so23233004qtp.7 for ; Tue, 22 May 2018 06:00:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wiJYOQ4tVDcH6CPw5Kw7uy/HU7C6o876qad1BXwM3vY=; b=ITXwSwVzcXLAb7EDKqLsivnMXFXSX4HNYhtM+z8oMPyJk2lO+6aTKLRKfPeC7ypq10 cjE2pHfDU9NrhESASKxMS34l9+Du19FWt7rGEuyOuO5rdss27BoGOnd0wayr5A9Up0ro ysL9tAFwAwX9OsAdnyC16JBO9B0o9zpI3tH9yiwE1LqtMLirGu8rVxZNHB2rwMPMeYe5 rFQ5uZNgeQ4DLyT9+J2b4yzCAzHi3PMbTnP4WEpeegL6bpCpbjsQ58zXTT16ZAkodymU Jm9LumjlWbAeK2maIkQF+RcIOMhOLLw0+NK2H7ViAQ1Yx/5WWA+q9L00pU6zg4IvILwa y58g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wiJYOQ4tVDcH6CPw5Kw7uy/HU7C6o876qad1BXwM3vY=; b=Jg4QnbTLcUpbRCu8D62yf/Abzu6h3Gro8ntCCu2ZovmEQqsUsh0XNqClzb6SCvHg2I BqxYvsCMTFG8dH1e5zgNZ4N9vlbmVbcpQgaoTV7qUHNlQ0b2b3EG+a00YKJqhb/DMlX+ MPg1uZlIpcgs5He2GBzeZxjQ1srAtkSBfEQ2bNUKaDpMwdNaNBPDZmoR6V9ZRUGSBKDq mqaGV9i14vgeyBglR3Pt1N4tuHwzOVKMZs7VBsAypcthW7hb72pVQMtUePwOefy6CtwE uOnr1UVrS0NAP2lQOcpQXXvj/SDtUHKzJm3/MkNqLn/k57s2RnFCxu0G+kuKIc/jAfzs QgRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwffoD3hgbKITa5/drfMKML/+UUQ0K4ionrQFx33ulD9uxsmm+4Z c8U+FUauXNbxZXLeek87dVwo/4oCjuBLbPZuTjB8Qg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqmcZBmsp8exb4VQfyFI4pdMl9lboD+IC5ZDGfw/nnKEWNXdSfJF/xVRb6w4TRy0ESc2demn/wtI7mP0tmlERg= X-Received: by 2002:aed:2d43:: with SMTP id h61-v6mr22324791qtd.31.1526994050126; Tue, 22 May 2018 06:00:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 09:00:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Very slow load/saves with 4K video footage To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ef1821056ccb013e" --000000000000ef1821056ccb013e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=E2=80=99ve recently had a lot of issues when freelancing onsite with netw= orked storage, even theoretically fast SANs etc. had to bring a project locally, but it was more for playback than saving. Premiere too. That sounds outside of the range of normality though for a decent network setup. What format are the files? MXF can cause some issues too, I usually transcode those to DPX or EXR for AE On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:26 AM Chris Zwar wrote: > I haven=E2=80=99t gotten as far as tracking or anything. I=E2=80=99m jus= t trying to > start=E2=80=A6 So far I have a project that has less than 100 clips in i= t, and it > takes 30+ minutes to open and save. > > We have a beefy network infrastructure. Connections are 10 gig. It=E2= =80=99s not > a network optimised for editing, but that=E2=80=99s not what I=E2=80=99m = doing. There=E2=80=99s > something wrong somewhere. There are less than 100 clips to import, 1/2 > hour is about 1800 seconds. So basically AE is taking roughly 18 - 20 > seconds to check each clip - every time the project is opened or saved. > This is not even playback. I=E2=80=99m just trying to import. And I che= cked - all > the clips are 2K ProRes quicktimes. Not even that heavy. Obviously I ha= ve > tried things like purging the cache, restarting, and so on. > > I had a quick word with our IT guy and one thing he said to check is if > the file path is over 256 characters long. Apparently that can cause wie= rd > issues with our setup - could be something that is unique to our server > etc. It=E2=80=99s the sort of tip I was looking for and I hope that=E2= =80=99s it. > > If I find a solution or can identify a problem then I=E2=80=99ll let you = know. > > -Chris > > On 22 May 2018, at 10:12 pm, Teddy Gage wrote: > > I think you answered your own question. How fast is the network? Gigabit > or 10gig? How big is the project file itself, if you=E2=80=99re saving th= e AE proj > locally. May need to bring it local. Or is there a lot of data being stor= ed > in the project itself? Tracking? Warp stabilizer? Rotobrush? > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:57 AM Chris Zwar > wrote: > >> I=E2=80=99ve imported a Premiere project into After Effects, it=E2=80=99= s 1 minute >> duration at 4K. It took over 30 minutes to bring the project in, I gues= s >> it was relinking all the clips. Problem is that it hasn=E2=80=99t gotte= n any >> faster. Each save takes just as long. Yes it=E2=80=99s 4K but there=E2= =80=99s not that >> many clips=E2=80=A6 both Premiere and AE are running the latest versions= . >> >> Currently it=E2=80=99s unworkable. I=E2=80=99m wondering if anyone else= has had similar >> issues? It=E2=80=99s not like I=E2=80=99m doing anything unusual. I=E2= =80=99ve even removed all >> unused footage, reduced to project down to a bare minimum and it=E2=80= =99s still >> taking forever to open and save. Currently the project is unworkable. >> >> The footage is on a network drive (not unusual either) and I=E2=80=99m g= oing to >> guess that if I copy everything locally it will probably work OK. If it >> doesn=E2=80=99t then I=E2=80=99m in trouble. >> >> But are there any other tips or things I=E2=80=99m overlooking to make t= his less >> painful? >> >> >> -Chris >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > -- > _____________________________ > Teddy Gage > President > Shotgun Inc. > 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX > SHOTGUNPOST.COM > BKLYN NY 11215 > > > -- _____________________________ Teddy Gage President Shotgun Inc. 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX SHOTGUNPOST.COM BKLYN NY 11215 --000000000000ef1821056ccb013e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I=E2=80=99ve recently had = a lot of issues when freelancing onsite with networked storage, even theore= tically fast SANs etc. had to bring a project locally, but it was more for = playback than saving. Premiere too. That sounds outside of the range of nor= mality though for a decent network setup. What format are the files? MXF ca= n cause some issues too, I usually transcode those to DPX or EXR for AE
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:26 AM Chris= Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.t= v> wrote:
I haven=E2=80=99t gotten as = far as tracking or anything.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m just trying to start=E2=80= =A6 =C2=A0So far I have a project that has less than 100 clips in it, and i= t takes 30+ minutes to open and save.

We have a beefy network = infrastructure.=C2=A0 Connections are 10 gig.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s not a netw= ork optimised for editing, but that=E2=80=99s not what I=E2=80=99m doing.= =C2=A0 There=E2=80=99s something wrong somewhere.=C2=A0 There are less than= 100 clips to import, 1/2 hour is about 1800 seconds.=C2=A0 So basically AE= is taking roughly 18 - 20 seconds to check each clip - every time the proj= ect is opened or saved.=C2=A0 This is not even playback.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m = just trying to import.=C2=A0 And I checked - all the clips are 2K ProRes qu= icktimes.=C2=A0 Not even that heavy.=C2=A0 Obviously I have tried things li= ke purging the cache, restarting, and so on.

I had= a quick word with our IT guy and one thing he said to check is if the file= path is over 256 characters long.=C2=A0 Apparently that can cause wierd is= sues with our setup - could be something that is unique to our server etc.= =C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s the sort of tip I was looking for and I hope that=E2=80= =99s it.

If I find a solution or can identify a pr= oblem then I=E2=80=99ll let you know.

-Chri= s

On 22= May 2018, at 10:12 pm, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I think you answered your own question. How fast is the network? = Gigabit or 10gig? How big is the project file itself, if you=E2=80=99re sav= ing the AE proj locally. May need to bring it local. Or is there a lot of d= ata being stored in the project itself? Tracking? Warp stabilizer? Rotobrus= h?

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:57 AM= Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I=E2=80=99ve imported a Premiere project into After Effects, it=E2=80= =99s 1 minute duration at 4K.=C2=A0 It took over 30 minutes to bring the pr= oject in, I guess it was relinking all the clips.=C2=A0 Problem is that it = hasn=E2=80=99t gotten any faster.=C2=A0 Each save takes just as long.=C2=A0= Yes it=E2=80=99s 4K but there=E2=80=99s not that many clips=E2=80=A6 both = Premiere and AE are running the latest versions.

Currently it=E2=80=99s unworkable.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m wondering if anyone el= se has had similar issues?=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s not like I=E2=80=99m doing an= ything unusual.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve even removed all unused footage, reduced= to project down to a bare minimum and it=E2=80=99s still taking forever to= open and save.=C2=A0 Currently the project is unworkable.

The footage is on a network drive (not unusual either) and I=E2=80=99m goin= g to guess that if I copy everything locally it will probably work OK.=C2= =A0 If it doesn=E2=80=99t then I=E2=80=99m in trouble.

But are there any other tips or things I=E2=80=99m overlooking to make this= less painful?


-Chris


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