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| Steve, thanks again for the extra info. I decided to go ahead and commit to High Sierra based on your advice and some preliminary testing. I never feel comfortable committing to any Apple OS that isn’t at least x.x.5. So, your mention that 10.13 has been out for a while was a compelling argument. I’ve spent the better part of today wrestling with it. I’ve learned a dual boot is out of the question when 10.13 resides on a partitioned disk with 10.11. I dowloaded Paragon’s AFHS utility, but 10.11 still doesn’t see the 10.13 drive in the Startup Disk preference. So, when I went back to 10.11 to do some last minute file maintenance, I had a whale of time booting back into 10.13 before I could use the Migration Assistant. Anyway, most everything works in Ae, except for Digieffects Damage, which I can upgrade to a compatible set for $50 (which I probably won’t; I’ve hardly used it.). I had to reauthorize most of my plug-ins, which is only a problem with the few like Boris BCC that are linked to a disk and not an IP. None of my audio plugs had to be re-authorized, which is unusual for an OS upgrade. I even can get BRU PE to launch as an administrator, which was my biggest fear. Thanks again for the valuable tips, info, and advice. BTW, I also have a USB 3.0 PCIe card. I think it’s a Sonnet; doesn’t need a driver, and works great. Jim > On Jun 22, 2018, at 11:41 PM, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: > > Your welcome ! > >> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:59 PM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >> >> Thanks, Steve. >> was a >> I installed 10.13 on the second partition of my backup disk for my MBP Retina, and immediately I got errors in Ae - one about Test Gear, and another about Beauty Box. I have a bunch of plugs and didn’t try them all. I don’t use Test Gear, but I do use Beauty Box, so I’m hesitating to commit to 10.13 on my MacPro if it’s going to break anything that doesn’t have a fix from the developers. > > 10.13 has been out for quiite a while now so if it broke an app, there is an update. of course a newer vers of AE will also possibly require plugins to be updated. so there is that bit if time to update everything. > >> I have an ATTO card running a SAS RAID5, an ATTO HBA for my SAS LTO drive. BRU PE, the weakest link, has given me a host of nightmares dealing with Apple’s “security” features, which get more draconian and Hieronymus Bosch-ian with every update. > > you can disable SIP - the app secruity thing by : > > • Restart your Mac. > • Before OS X starts up, hold down Command-R and keep it held down until you see an Apple icon and a progress bar. Release. This boots you into Recovery. > • From the Utilities menu, select Terminal. > • At the prompt type exactly the following and then press Return: csrutil disable > • Terminal should display a message that SIP was disabled. > • From the  menu, select Restart. > > You can re-enable SIP by following the above steps, but using csrutil enable instead. > > I’ve run into a few things related to this including a machine having fits about installing the latest BMD video card drivers which required diisabling SIP. I think 10.13.5 re-enables it on reboot automatically, but not 100% on this. YMMV. > > I get being stuck with some legacy hardware / software. we’ve all lived thru that mess. the problem is of course newer vers of apps want newer OS’s so a dual boot situation is the only thiing you can do. > > I’m running a Titan X with flashed firmware and its fine. the drivers are highly OS ver specific, but the nVidiia control panel will update to the correct vers. ditto CUDA driver which is less OS picky. > > no clue on 10.13 + ATTO support. a couple years about 10.11 or so killed off drivers for my USB3 card and the only solution was a new card with OS built in support. I did try a couple drivers I found out there but none worked, which is a shame because the RaidRocket card I had was a screamer compared to what I got - 4 full bandwidth USB3 channels vs 1 split across 4 connectors. > > S > >> >> I can’t leave El Cap until I’m damn sure BRU PE (and the other apps and plugs I depend on) will work, and the only way to know for sure is on a test partition. I also have a flashed for Mac Nvidia Titan, and I need to make sure the drivers are OK there before I can leave El Cap as well. >> >> I searched for info on what the firmware update does, but no luck finding anything about my particular situation. >> >> >> >>> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:34 PM, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>> >>> No. >>> >>> there were a few odd firmware updates, but if its for the mobo just google up info on the updates. none had to do with OS locking. >>> >>> OTH, everyone else is right in that there is no need to run a dual boot machine and make your life more complicated than it needs to be. there are advantages like newer gpu drivers and there are some app bugs fixed by OS updates. >>> >>> the only thing 10.13 will want to possibly do is update your drive to APFS which you can ignore for now and do later you want. volumes can be converted from HFS to APFS in a few minutes. APFS works fine on SSD’s, RAID 0/1. Fusion drive support coming - **don’t** create a fusion drive via the command line vers of diskutil. while it will work, the volume may have space allocation issues down the road. wait until apple officially releases it. >>> >>> otherwise 10.13.5 is pretty solid >>> >>> S >>> >>>> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a MacPro5,1 - the last cheese grater model, and I’d like to install High Sierra on a partition that also has El Capitan on it so that I can convert FCPX projects to XML so I can finish projects started in FCPX in Pr and Ae, and work on them on El Capitan, which is working great. >>>> >>>> When I started to install High Sierra on my Sierra partition, the installer told me I need to update the firmware. I bailed. >>>> >>>> My question is: >>>> >>>> If I update the firmware, will it bork my MacPro5,1 so that it will no longer boot from El Capitan? >>>> >>>> I’ve searched for an answer, and most people seem to throw fate to the wind and commit to High Sierra forever. I’m not that guy. >>>> >>>> Can anybody help, or direct me to some info? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jim C. >>> >> > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> |
