From: "Dennis Wilkins" Received: from biz127.inmotionhosting.com ([205.134.250.21] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7116792 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 18:43:05 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=reelsolutions.com; s=default; h=Message-Id:In-Reply-To:To:References:Date: Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Co1oVdpglmTg8iuI5WzokCedzpWh2/A7D5Krx6+efsE=; b=ectFs/85kTv0dM/OgJLrT5L52 e7QMYg6AA6ai6U40SezjSqsXb/L95IxxJ77iqN9/JOGqlM5dszCWBdt1j3yUn6J7ADM4PbnkL3hlL yGSK1t03IaTM2Syu4PBPAggR9IkvhsowDffjlUafex7U8wpVFlJuBNIVmJrDn4H4KOaWs=; Received: from [73.222.249.170] (port=42390 helo=[192.168.1.92]) by biz127.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ff6ik-009NpS-6D for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:51:40 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CFEAD72D-2095-4326-B368-E427383B4CDB" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime + HAP codec support Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:51:33 -0700 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4DC55F40-FE13-46CB-9FFB-553041BE951C@reelsolutions.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz127.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - reelsolutions.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: biz127.inmotionhosting.com: authenticated_id: dennis@reelsolutions.com X-Authenticated-Sender: biz127.inmotionhosting.com: dennis@reelsolutions.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: --Apple-Mail=_CFEAD72D-2095-4326-B368-E427383B4CDB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I don=E2=80=99t understand how you can blame Apple on this. Quicktime 7 = was deprecated years ago and Adobe has known for a long time that codec = support using QuickTime was going away. They are responsible for = insuring support for the codecs that they offer in their apps. - Dennis > On Jul 16, 2018, at 7:24 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: >=20 > One of the threads is here: > =20 > https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2413891 = ? > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List >=20 > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:22 AM > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime + HAP codec support > =20 > about missing versions: after testing this a while ago, found out that = only CC 2015.3 is missing in Ae: > https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2484565 = > =20 > I recently re-installed my machine and was able to install all version = but CC2015.3=20 > =20 > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: > That=E2=80=99s only on machines that had CC prior versions installed. = On a new machine, new install, some versions are missing. Lots of noise = about it in Adobe forums. > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List >=20 > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:40 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime + HAP codec support > =20 > I just checked (on my home mac) and I still have the option to show = older versions, and install older versions back to CS6. I=E2=80=99m = running the latest version of the CC app. > =20 > In the CC app, where the apps are listed with either a white tablet = that says =E2=80=9Copen=E2=80=9D or a blue tablet that says =E2=80=9Cupdat= e=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cinstall", I click on the arrow on the right side = and I get an =E2=80=9Cother versions=E2=80=9D option. If I click on = this, it lists all versions back to CS6 with the option to install. > =20 > Are you not seeing the same thing? > =20 > On 16 Jul 2018, at 9:16 am, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: > =20 > > You can still install older versions of AE / PR / ME through the = Adobe Creative Cloud app and that will keep you going for a bit.=20 > =20 > This is not true on new installs which I discovered to my horror =E2=80=93= those older versions with Dolby and other licensing issues have been = removed. > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List >=20 > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:00 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of Quicktime + HAP codec support > =20 > While we bought AfterCodecs for this very situation, we also kept all = of the older version of After Effects / Premiere / MediaEncoder on all = our machines. You can still install older versions of AE / PR / ME = through the Adobe Creative Cloud app and that will keep you going for a = bit. We work in CC 2018 but render to image sequences, then we import = and output these using CC 2017. You can always back-save your projects = for CC 2017 too, if you=E2=80=99re not using any features from the = latest release. > I think my home machine has 5 or 6 versions of After Effects on it, = going back to CS 6. =20 > =20 > =20 > -Chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 16 Jul 2018, at 2:47 am, Michael Powers > wrote: > =20 > I am working round the clock to get out a giant projection mapping = project in Grand Central Terminal. I go to encode my files for D3 = playback in AfterFX or even AME with the HAP codec and I remember it is = not there!@!#$%$ > =20 > This is a giant pain in ass. I have submitted my displeasure to the = Adobe forum and feature/bugs email the last time this bit me. > =20 > Dear Adobe product leaders how about a response =E2=80=93 or better = yet supporting customer workflows! > =20 > =20 > Mike Powers > Director of Animation \ Cramer > =20 > 781.278.2354 > mpowers@cramer.com > https://vimeo.com/mpowers > 3DBOXX W8920Processor 32.0 GB RAM=20 > Dual Xeon CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz, 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical = Processor(s) > Windows 10 Enterprise - 1709 (OS Build 16299.64) > NVIDIA GTX TITAN Black RAM 6.0 GB Driver Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA = 388.31 --Apple-Mail=_CFEAD72D-2095-4326-B368-E427383B4CDB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I = don=E2=80=99t understand how you can blame Apple on this. Quicktime 7 = was deprecated years ago and Adobe has known for a long time that codec = support using QuickTime was going away. They are responsible for = insuring support for the codecs that they offer in their apps.

- Dennis



On Jul = 16, 2018, at 7:24 AM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

One of = the threads is here:
 
 
From: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:22 = AM
To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv>Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime = + HAP codec support
 
about missing versions: after testing = this a while ago, found out that only CC 2015.3 is missing in Ae:
 
I recently re-installed my machine and = was able to install all version but CC2015.3 
 
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:10 PM, = Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
That=E2=80=99s only on machines that had CC prior versions = installed. On a new machine, new install, some versions are missing. = Lots of noise about it in Adobe forums.
 
From: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:40 = PM
To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime = + HAP codec support
 
I just = checked (on my home mac) and I still have the option to show older = versions, and install older versions back to CS6.  I=E2=80=99m = running the latest version of the CC app.
 
In the CC app, where the apps are listed with either a white = tablet that says =E2=80=9Copen=E2=80=9D or a blue tablet that says = =E2=80=9Cupdate=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cinstall", I click on the arrow on = the right side and I get an =E2=80=9Cother versions=E2=80=9D = option.  If I click on this, it lists all versions back to CS6 with = the option to install.
 
Are you not seeing the same thing?
 
On 16 Jul 2018, at 9:16 = am, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
 
>  You can still install older = versions of AE / PR / ME through the Adobe Creative Cloud app and that = will keep you going for a bit.  
 
This is not true on new installs which = I discovered to my horror =E2=80=93 those older versions with Dolby and = other licensing issues have been removed.
 
From:&n= bsp;After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>&n= bsp;
Sent:&n= bsp;Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:00 PM
To:&n= bsp;After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject:&n= bsp;Re: [AE] Lack of Quicktime + HAP codec support
 
While we bought AfterCodecs for this very situation, we also = kept all of the older version of After Effects / Premiere / MediaEncoder = on all our machines.  You can still install older versions of AE / = PR / ME through the Adobe Creative Cloud app and that will keep you = going for a bit.  We work in CC 2018 but render to image sequences, = then we import and output these using CC 2017.  You can always = back-save your projects for CC 2017 too, if you=E2=80=99re not using any = features from the latest release.
I think = my home machine has 5 or 6 versions of After Effects on it, going back = to CS 6.  
 
 
-Chris



On 16 Jul 2018, at 2:47 am, Michael = Powers <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= wrote:
 
I am working round the = clock to get out a giant projection mapping project in Grand Central = Terminal. I go to encode my files for D3 playback in AfterFX or even AME = with the HAP codec and I remember it is not there!@!#$%$
 
This is a giant pain in ass. I have = submitted my displeasure to the Adobe forum and feature/bugs email the = last time this bit me.
 
Dear Adobe product leaders how about a = response =E2=80=93 or better yet supporting customer workflows!
 
 

Mike Powers
Director of Animation \&n= bsp;Cramer
 
781.278.2354
mpowers@cramer.com

https://vimeo.com/mpowers

3DBOXX = W8920Processor          = 32.0 GB RAM 
Dual Xeon CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz, = 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
Windows 10 Enterprise - 1709 (OS Build 16299.64)
NVIDIA GTX TITAN Black RAM  6.0 = GB     Driver Version   2.1.2 NVIDIA = 388.31
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