From: "Warren Heaton" Received: from pv38p41im-ztdg02071201.me.com ([17.133.179.24] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7117147 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:10:17 +0200 Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.pv38p41im-ztdg02071201.me.com by pv38p41im-ztdg02071201.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) id <0PBZ009001GUNR00@pv38p41im-ztdg02071201.me.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 18:18:53 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=04042017; t=1531765133; bh=NYStK55OsLN3lWDBfdkCUAzC+dPcCwWZ5sm4gnzbjdc=; h=From:Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:Date:To:Message-id; b=zHhoE0jeMsv0a+VIcnIUgnAZa9BIhTZKJURPpY18+ZSVOd3lHziEdW8bez1kSqssb BLCBHmsZR3NhcsWWjiDhnbwcJVGO1VS2C8DVBVbsEGnxWi2vwyncKOo6OOTFUY0YHu Qy+ZYmCXxKfqiW5IhySDGQsvm3sZjRgN7EcHySIlFlD/dbD6viuOWr+QzdIyaYVOuw ZPHkkqrjkmAgSvbj2mdjUwFU68dtTN+TtnGaDan/fPsp4g4oC6cx2J4Nxu4ZSDpgke uRhKBzO/y7iN48RVJbZAh21+Z/tYejHmMJT22tNSoGj9Xnfd4evQFWm/Vd7GAllpvf 2sPAhXFiX7q6A== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by pv38p41im-ztdg02071201.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0PBZ0063C1JBXH60@pv38p41im-ztdg02071201.me.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 18:18:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2018-07-16_05:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1807160207 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C164EBDD-C936-4CD5-BA86-BEB3796E4565" MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime + HAP codec support Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:18:47 -0700 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-reply-to: Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) --Apple-Mail=_C164EBDD-C936-4CD5-BA86-BEB3796E4565 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=9Dm not sure how one could hold Adobe responsible for 3rd party = software. The parts all work together. Of everything that=E2=80=99s = gone with QuickTime, we=E2=80=99re pretty lucky to still be able to = compress and decompress the QuickTime CODECs that we can. =20 > On Jul 16, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Wilkins = wrote: >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t understand how you can blame Apple on this. Quicktime = 7 was deprecated years ago and Adobe has known for a long time that = codec support using QuickTime was going away. They are responsible for = insuring support for the codecs that they offer in their apps. >=20 > - Dennis >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jul 16, 2018, at 7:24 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: >>=20 >> One of the threads is here: >> =20 >> https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2413891 = ? >> =20 >> From: After Effects Mail List >=20 >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:22 AM >> To: After Effects Mail List > >> Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime + HAP codec support >> =20 >> about missing versions: after testing this a while ago, found out = that only CC 2015.3 is missing in Ae: >> https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2484565 = >> =20 >> I recently re-installed my machine and was able to install all = version but CC2015.3=20 >> =20 >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: >> That=E2=80=99s only on machines that had CC prior versions installed. = On a new machine, new install, some versions are missing. Lots of noise = about it in Adobe forums. >> =20 >> From: After Effects Mail List >=20 >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:40 PM >> To: After Effects Mail List > >> Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime + HAP codec support >> =20 >> I just checked (on my home mac) and I still have the option to show = older versions, and install older versions back to CS6. I=E2=80=99m = running the latest version of the CC app. >> =20 >> In the CC app, where the apps are listed with either a white tablet = that says =E2=80=9Copen=E2=80=9D or a blue tablet that says =E2=80=9Cupdat= e=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cinstall", I click on the arrow on the right side = and I get an =E2=80=9Cother versions=E2=80=9D option. If I click on = this, it lists all versions back to CS6 with the option to install. >> =20 >> Are you not seeing the same thing? >> =20 >> On 16 Jul 2018, at 9:16 am, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: >> =20 >> > You can still install older versions of AE / PR / ME through the = Adobe Creative Cloud app and that will keep you going for a bit. =20 >> =20 >> This is not true on new installs which I discovered to my horror =E2=80= =93 those older versions with Dolby and other licensing issues have been = removed. >> =20 >> From: After Effects Mail List >=20 >> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:00 PM >> To: After Effects Mail List > >> Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of Quicktime + HAP codec support >> =20 >> While we bought AfterCodecs for this very situation, we also kept all = of the older version of After Effects / Premiere / MediaEncoder on all = our machines. You can still install older versions of AE / PR / ME = through the Adobe Creative Cloud app and that will keep you going for a = bit. We work in CC 2018 but render to image sequences, then we import = and output these using CC 2017. You can always back-save your projects = for CC 2017 too, if you=E2=80=99re not using any features from the = latest release. >> I think my home machine has 5 or 6 versions of After Effects on it, = going back to CS 6. =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> -Chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 16 Jul 2018, at 2:47 am, Michael Powers > wrote: >> =20 >> I am working round the clock to get out a giant projection mapping = project in Grand Central Terminal. I go to encode my files for D3 = playback in AfterFX or even AME with the HAP codec and I remember it is = not there!@!#$%$ >> =20 >> This is a giant pain in ass. I have submitted my displeasure to the = Adobe forum and feature/bugs email the last time this bit me. >> =20 >> Dear Adobe product leaders how about a response =E2=80=93 or better = yet supporting customer workflows! >> =20 >> =20 >> Mike Powers >> Director of Animation \ Cramer >> =20 >> 781.278.2354 >> mpowers@cramer.com >> https://vimeo.com/mpowers >> 3DBOXX W8920Processor 32.0 GB RAM=20 >> Dual Xeon CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz, 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical = Processor(s) >> Windows 10 Enterprise - 1709 (OS Build 16299.64) >> NVIDIA GTX TITAN Black RAM 6.0 GB Driver Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA = 388.31 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_C164EBDD-C936-4CD5-BA86-BEB3796E4565 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80= =9Dm not sure how one could hold Adobe responsible for 3rd party = software.  The parts all work together.  Of everything = that=E2=80=99s gone with QuickTime, we=E2=80=99re pretty lucky to still = be able to compress and decompress the QuickTime CODECs that we can.

 

On Jul 16, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Wilkins <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I don=E2=80=99t = understand how you can blame Apple on this. Quicktime 7 was deprecated = years ago and Adobe has known for a long time that codec support using = QuickTime was going away. They are responsible for insuring support for = the codecs that they offer in their apps.

- Dennis



On Jul = 16, 2018, at 7:24 AM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

One of = the threads is here:
 
 
From: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:22 = AM
To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv>Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime = + HAP codec support
 
about missing versions: after testing = this a while ago, found out that only CC 2015.3 is missing in Ae:
 
I recently re-installed my machine and = was able to install all version but CC2015.3 
 
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:10 PM, = Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
That=E2=80=99s only on machines that had CC prior versions = installed. On a new machine, new install, some versions are missing. = Lots of noise about it in Adobe forums.
 
From: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:40 = PM
To: After Effects Mail List = <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Lack of QuickTime = + HAP codec support
 
I just = checked (on my home mac) and I still have the option to show older = versions, and install older versions back to CS6.  I=E2=80=99m = running the latest version of the CC app.
 
In the CC app, where the apps are listed with either a white = tablet that says =E2=80=9Copen=E2=80=9D or a blue tablet that says = =E2=80=9Cupdate=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cinstall", I click on the arrow on = the right side and I get an =E2=80=9Cother versions=E2=80=9D = option.  If I click on this, it lists all versions back to CS6 with = the option to install.
 
Are you not seeing the same thing?
 
On 16 Jul 2018, at 9:16 = am, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
 
>  You can still install older = versions of AE / PR / ME through the Adobe Creative Cloud app and that = will keep you going for a bit.  
 
This is not true on new installs which = I discovered to my horror =E2=80=93 those older versions with Dolby and = other licensing issues have been removed.
 
From:&n= bsp;After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>&n= bsp;
Sent:&n= bsp;Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:00 PM
To:&n= bsp;After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject:&n= bsp;Re: [AE] Lack of Quicktime + HAP codec support
 
While we bought AfterCodecs for this very situation, we also = kept all of the older version of After Effects / Premiere / MediaEncoder = on all our machines.  You can still install older versions of AE / = PR / ME through the Adobe Creative Cloud app and that will keep you = going for a bit.  We work in CC 2018 but render to image sequences, = then we import and output these using CC 2017.  You can always = back-save your projects for CC 2017 too, if you=E2=80=99re not using any = features from the latest release.
I think = my home machine has 5 or 6 versions of After Effects on it, going back = to CS 6.  
 
 
-Chris



On 16 Jul 2018, at 2:47 am, Michael = Powers <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= wrote:
 
I am working round the = clock to get out a giant projection mapping project in Grand Central = Terminal. I go to encode my files for D3 playback in AfterFX or even AME = with the HAP codec and I remember it is not there!@!#$%$
 
This is a giant pain in ass. I have = submitted my displeasure to the Adobe forum and feature/bugs email the = last time this bit me.
 
Dear Adobe product leaders how about a = response =E2=80=93 or better yet supporting customer workflows!
 
 

Mike Powers
Director of Animation \&n= bsp;Cramer
 
781.278.2354
mpowers@cramer.com

https://vimeo.com/mpowers

3DBOXX = W8920Processor          = 32.0 GB RAM 
Dual Xeon CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz, = 2601 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
Windows 10 Enterprise - 1709 (OS Build 16299.64)
NVIDIA GTX TITAN Black RAM  6.0 = GB     Driver Version   2.1.2 NVIDIA = 388.31
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