From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pl0-f42.google.com ([209.85.160.42] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7122320 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 01:45:17 +0200 Received: by mail-pl0-f42.google.com with SMTP id e11-v6so1499763plb.3 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=oJQK+PbCxQP2SfGTk87FYdissVNKAe5zIfks1JRvbZU=; b=pwiyPpA6VpqEGyI4KqS3vc7zqDM4AVR50vnwDR4P/1OgS9ZUZWrV7Sp6XQs9Nzw/+2 6q9Bvwz3xXr11wifQQsYHQPu+fB7elZUfxYlyppsIovZ2eD4Qh7T6yBj1DxCert6QGpz oQgD3nfF3ZiilFznKcTObxYw4VwLy4nDXoymYLqMnr61L7ysOewmrR+CYv015+dCzT/I iuL6yxb61MiW6XDPFLeYL3hu+PKwfuxv8rdhGBNaAS5x9r11dNHjAzpgXDbsza6pOoev Yn3Zf0dXhMBueLKH04YfL5VGvyxbJkbU72gxiA15aiMGbZN/JzBAHSZdr1K4Bg3OzNyl Zh8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=oJQK+PbCxQP2SfGTk87FYdissVNKAe5zIfks1JRvbZU=; b=fL3HeGklAChfGRik3KGOJXxquLrcd85uYZ0rGaoykm6fQiuZEv3VGENkALGIVi4z0f /nJkuZEAl3XWJGu9Ks85Cthr+KD5T8VISUl1bdX/b+Tnf7HFokMg5HWATa83rN6wK06M JBQtiziDgy/jiBS7T0AMGYogOldT+ZpU2OE+NRg7UtK5QpuJcwlM8LskmT3Rii4sawZT ZiXhsCq6tE8FbkRjUcrP1TwhdRugtc+FEUOjC2wDp6fYC7+c+6l295GUG0plcl32XWFi tUo18nnvlveipkJH4mJeb/hBv9u0PT4xlF5ykhbgQ1vPSRABV1qzWBeEfGrOu+C1LrGL loVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlF3T5nzYCJbTlAW3fNqE5lN8PC8bKAOM8lbysHbMy0nT/7J9JB+ l7ydCSZ0Ah86DEiCBmjiSkA8a9oP63Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpd5jJMgddszfAGK6cpnkxWM3M4Gq9EcyHJh7Q4NyF6eKxzL6ieLpR1o5r2AtkRsYLCsJ+C3gw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9695:: with SMTP id n21-v6mr3823149plp.6.1532649254038; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.4] ([101.164.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t12-v6sm3313226pgg.72.2018.07.26.16.54.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0DEF8D19-EAE3-48AB-9EBB-C2E4DB370A44" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Cases for windows machine Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:54:09 +1000 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1E804E9D-94AF-4AAA-8497-4D7C11D4A230@chriszwar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) --Apple-Mail=_0DEF8D19-EAE3-48AB-9EBB-C2E4DB370A44 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks for the input so far. Yes noise would be a primary = consideration, so I=E2=80=99ll check review sites for recommendations. = I haven=E2=80=99t paid attention to windows machines for a long time so = I=E2=80=99m only really familiar with Tom=E2=80=99s hardware, if anyone = has another recommendation for quality reviews then please share! I had planned to purchase a seperate power supply, but I noticed that = fans and water cooling are another feature that cases can come with / = without. I assumed I would get a case with fans, and not add my own - = is that OK? This will be a pretty average box with only 1 GPU so I=E2=80=99= m not expecting to need water cooling. FWIW the company I do a lot of work for uses Corsair Obsidian cases. I = guess they=E2=80=99re OK but the ones at work are huge, as they have 4 = GPUs in them each. I=E2=80=99m looking at ATX cases but I want = something smaller than a bar fridge ;-) Anyway always fun to browse online... -Chris > On 27 Jul 2018, at 9:01 am, David Baud = wrote: >=20 > I am sure some people on this list will have more practical answers to = give you, but for someone who has been running/maintaining/building = computers for more than 35 years, here are a few things you may want to = consider when selecting your case: >=20 > . cooling - as you certainly know, you want to keep temperature down = and variation as little as possible. Things to consider include size, = building material for the case, air and water cooling > . upgradability or not! - room for internal hard drives, card slots, = power supply - ease of replacing components (rack, slider,=E2=80=A6.) > . noise - if you plan having your computer next to the operator, you = may want to make sure it is noise free! >=20 > Let us know what you end-up choosing, >=20 > Good luck, >=20 > David Baud > Colorist & Finishing Editor > david at kosmos-productions.com >> On Jul 26, 2018, at 16:34 , Chris Zwar > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi all, >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m going to put together a simple windows machine and = thought I=E2=80=99d ask peoples opinions on cases. All other parts of a = computer can be chosen on their technical merits but I=E2=80=99m a bit = stumped when it comes to choosing a case. Lots of cases seem to be = aimed at gamers, while honestly I don=E2=80=99t care about LEDs and how = many colours it comes in. >> I=E2=80=99m wondering if there are specific features I should look = for that are more relevant to video professionals=E2=80=A6 things like = port placements and so on. Why the fuss over tempered glass panels? If = the point of a glass panel is so you can see the LEDs on the motherboard = then I wouldn=E2=80=99t bother, unless there=E2=80=99s more to it than = that? >> The online retailer I use has over 300 cases to choose from ranging = from $49 to over $800, and unlike RAM / CPU / GPU I have no idea what = the extra money is bringing in. =20 >>=20 >> I haven=E2=80=99t built a windows machine for over 10 years so any = insight is welcome. >>=20 >> -Chris >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0DEF8D19-EAE3-48AB-9EBB-C2E4DB370A44 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks for the input so far.  Yes noise would be a = primary consideration, so I=E2=80=99ll check review sites for = recommendations.  I haven=E2=80=99t paid attention to windows = machines for a long time so I=E2=80=99m only really familiar with = Tom=E2=80=99s hardware, if anyone has another recommendation for quality = reviews then please share!
I had planned to purchase a = seperate power supply, but I noticed that fans and water cooling are = another feature that cases can come with / without.   I assumed I = would get a case with fans, and not add my own - is that OK?  This = will be a pretty average box with only 1 GPU so I=E2=80=99m not = expecting to need water cooling.

FWIW the company I do a lot of work for = uses Corsair Obsidian cases.  I guess they=E2=80=99re OK but the = ones at work are huge, as they have 4 GPUs in them each.  I=E2=80=99m= looking at ATX cases but I want something smaller than a bar fridge = ;-)

Anyway = always fun to browse online...

-Chris


On 27 Jul 2018, at 9:01 am, David Baud <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I am sure some = people on this list will have more practical answers to give you, but = for someone who has been running/maintaining/building computers for more = than 35 years, here are a few things you may want to consider when = selecting your case:

.= cooling - as you certainly know, you want to keep temperature down and = variation as little as possible. Things to consider include size, = building material for the case, air and water cooling
. upgradability or not! - room for internal hard drives, card = slots, power supply - ease of replacing components (rack, = slider,=E2=80=A6.)
. noise - if you plan having = your computer next to the operator, you may want to make sure it is = noise free!

Let = us know what you end-up choosing,

Good luck,

David Baud
Colorist & = Finishing = Editor
david = at kosmos-productions.com

On Jul 26, 2018, at 16:34 , Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi = all,

I=E2=80=99m going to put together a = simple windows machine and thought I=E2=80=99d ask peoples opinions on = cases.  All other parts of a computer can be chosen on their = technical merits but I=E2=80=99m a bit stumped when it comes to choosing = a case.  Lots of cases seem to be aimed at gamers, while honestly I = don=E2=80=99t care about LEDs and how many colours it comes in.
I=E2=80=99m wondering if there are specific features I should = look for that are more relevant to video professionals=E2=80=A6 things = like port placements and so on.  Why the fuss over tempered glass = panels?  If the point of a glass panel is so you can see the LEDs = on the motherboard then I wouldn=E2=80=99t bother, unless there=E2=80=99s = more to it than that?
The online retailer I use has over = 300 cases to choose from ranging from $49 to over $800, and unlike RAM / = CPU / GPU I have no idea what the extra money is bringing in.  

I haven=E2=80=99t built a windows machine for = over 10 years so any insight is welcome.

-Chris


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