From: "Nick Fox-Gieg" Received: from mail-it0-f45.google.com ([209.85.214.45] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7125902 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 17:58:02 +0200 Received: by mail-it0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 72-v6so10373224itw.3 for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:07:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=DXdtBamOckn1wvCJAwyxuU6kvBhzJJKc/xH7dwD5Hb8=; b=Q0hxqtA07RspwVKNWAiTvWjP0YApfEgo+YcZB2FgEk77hIEIEbhTF39//wC6Uu/GdH LuSmlNgsOiIfXFkofBsEK1tpxEiqYpUZHUimjN83pAjJa9pz8eU3fIGOeenIz3hMThgB X6qQw0aTf7uMvC/Ynr7UbqLkCU85bnJJ5p3uI5Hc6KXIavlQdZ5qAKCr4nj3gWqmdfS3 wF22DkusU174jbLF+n37+u3iXCv33mpTME8OEwlj+uc6a7yl/CO1QkKkYkhTR7OlwCXO Eb8PAKsbLwYvIT8bBM5FyKQa3XCbVWTU26JQkktpPv0tY9gzjg4qTKdUJTxcDKIY3XRV 1qXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DXdtBamOckn1wvCJAwyxuU6kvBhzJJKc/xH7dwD5Hb8=; b=aR2nhSfIEFh97N48eoFeZVZ6B6IbQtj9bAlClAkqpcxyPcsE4oBOql4u7XnHc/cKIj HIws5yfWTkd28gDWSaFuWMnBtWWW9u7oPagkY/Iku7VEqfkYcFj4Qe2vIdDojDKH5pWn v5IBY9nANleIISqE8y2QoBOZ+Jrn6MH87WG3J2FJzGhsAzFwtUfI8V1VhadDJuLIQkpZ /NLv9f8DziaET+S3U7uzal0paVSBQ29ZxwbsD+p2u0trA+luXuYekr5Dmth0bXJCDgZq hKjKHm2AjjQJBVnM2MPouR69oP/CvZwH12yPAlqb7J+iwBM5lIA7h/VKwyMA45qJ4Gju +A+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHhN7jnNA5l6TgP9JGDFKBZC3jpGP/xIQqbs3XZ95E23M2wEhv8 ZMHhaU89kkNaCkXo7yzESDGGnkTCjSMDKzmHVC49Sxdf X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpc+wlDk7SJVBIfa93rXVPsfbXrvG6QzED7rmquhNv6BBOoLzcD8SRQrq1ds8oxY5Ti0kTHU3ofFmox8PRpNevk= X-Received: by 2002:a02:3d58:: with SMTP id n85-v6mr23946928jan.99.1533139630382; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:07:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: foxgieg@gmail.com Received: by 2002:ac0:d38a:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:06:39 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qGfRALOZEWTaLJBHMSSXKq_nLFU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Photoshop Panoramic 360 imaging To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000f690f057261e388" --0000000000000f690f057261e388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try Mettle tools that were recently integrated into AE--that should give you a way to get your logo into an equirect without distortion, and also a reliable way to view the result. As for creating better panoramas, that's a huge question, and as much about hardware as software. I'd say (except via photogrammetry) you can't do good 360 video or stereo panoramas with a DSLR or ball-of-GoPros, no matter how many of them you have. You need a purpose-built 360 camera--here's a bit more detail on why: https://developers.google.com/vr/jump/rendering-ods-content.pdf However for a mono still panorama, which sounds like your situation, there's a much simpler solution--one regular DSLR with a NPP ("No Parallax Point") tripod mount like this: https://shop.nodalninja.com/nn3-mk3-series/ Nick On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Adam Mercado wrote: > Hi gang, this is not an after effects problem, but the great minds in thi= s > group probably have some experience here that I can tap into. > > Got a request from a new client to produce a 360 image built from photos = I > shoot with their logo added in. I did a bit of google research and spent > yesterday afternoon shooting some test shots in my back garden. I brought > these shots into Photoshop and used Photomerge to combine them into (a) a > cylindrical map and (b) a spherical map. I added a logo to the long flat > combined image, but when viewed in the 3D viewer there were some problems= . > > 1. The image is squished horizontally so everything is tall and narrow. > Obviously a no go where client logos are concerned. The settings in the > dialog box to view the pano seem to have no relevance here as changing th= em > made no difference to the results. > > 2. The ends of the pano do not blend like the middle shots do, creating a > distinct seam at one point of the 360 pano. I shot ten images, left to > right, overlapping 30-40% each side. Files are named 1-10 and added to th= e > Photomerge panel in that order. Photomerge then sets image 5 as the first > layer and blends all the others in sequence, even wrapping around from 10 > back to 1 in my shots. It does not wrap the =E2=80=98ends=E2=80=99 of the= image creating a > seamless 360, which turns out to be images 5 and 6. > > 3. In the Adobe help page for Photomerge it suggests having a top/bottom > or ceiling/floor images to create 360 x 180 pano, but never gives the ste= ps > to do this. Also, the menu item in the help page does not correspond to t= he > version of Photoshop I have (19.4.1 if I recall). It=E2=80=99s CC2018 and= I=E2=80=99m sure > the latest update > > I also downloaded some free pano shots from wpanorama.com to test with > Photoshop 3D viewer, and while the 360 wrap was seamless the horizontal > squish was still present. So, why are my photos not wrapping properly, ho= w > can I fix or ensure better shots? And is the Adobe 3D viewer just bunk an= d > I should try something more reliable? > > Any ideas of where to look or what other app to use to pull off this job > massively welcome. My first foray into anything VR so it=E2=80=99s a bit = of a > learning curve, which is fine, but every how-to page I=E2=80=99ve found j= ust makes > it sound bing-bang-boom easy as pie you=E2=80=99re done. > > I can supply files if anyone=E2=80=99s that interested > > Thx > Adam > > Sent from my iPad > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --0000000000000f690f057261e388 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try Mettle tools that were recently integrated into AE--th= at should give you a way to get your logo into an equirect without distorti= on, and also a reliable way to view the result.=C2=A0

As= for creating better panoramas, that's a huge question, and as much abo= ut hardware as software. I'd say (except via photogrammetry) you can= 9;t do good 360 video or stereo panoramas with a DSLR or ball-of-GoPros, no= matter how many of them you have. You need a purpose-built 360 camera--her= e's a bit more detail on why:

However for = a mono still panorama, which sounds like your situation, there's a much= simpler solution--one regular DSLR with a NPP ("No Parallax Point&quo= t;) tripod mount like this:=C2=A0

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Adam Mercado = <AE-List@me= dia-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi ga= ng, this is not an after effects problem, but the great minds in this group= probably have some experience here that I can tap into.

Got a request from a new client to produce a 360 image built from photos I = shoot with their logo added in.=C2=A0 I did a bit of google research and sp= ent yesterday afternoon shooting some test shots in my back garden. I broug= ht these shots into Photoshop and used Photomerge to combine them into (a) = a cylindrical map and (b) a spherical map. I added a logo to the long flat = combined image, but when viewed in the 3D viewer there were some problems. =

1. The image is squished horizontally so everything is tall and narrow. Obv= iously a no go where client logos are concerned. The settings in the dialog= box to view the pano seem to have no relevance here as changing them made = no difference to the results.

2. The ends of the pano do not blend like the middle shots do, creating a d= istinct seam at one point of the 360 pano. I shot ten images, left to right= , overlapping 30-40% each side. Files are named 1-10 and added to the Photo= merge panel in that order. Photomerge then sets image 5 as the first layer = and blends all the others in sequence, even wrapping around from 10 back to= 1 in my shots. It does not wrap the =E2=80=98ends=E2=80=99 of the image cr= eating a seamless 360, which turns out to be images 5 and 6.

3. In the Adobe help page for Photomerge it suggests having a top/bottom or= ceiling/floor images to create 360 x 180 pano, but never gives the steps t= o do this. Also, the menu item in the help page does not correspond to the = version of Photoshop I have (19.4.1 if I recall). It=E2=80=99s CC2018 and I= =E2=80=99m sure the latest update

I also downloaded some free pano shots from wpanorama.com to test with Photo= shop 3D viewer, and while the 360 wrap was seamless the horizontal squish w= as still present. So, why are my photos not wrapping properly, how can I fi= x or ensure better shots? And is the Adobe 3D viewer just bunk and I should= try something more reliable?

Any ideas of where to look or what other app to use to pull off this job ma= ssively welcome. My first foray into anything VR so it=E2=80=99s a bit of a= learning curve, which is fine, but every how-to page I=E2=80=99ve found ju= st makes it sound bing-bang-boom easy as pie you=E2=80=99re done.

I can supply files if anyone=E2=80=99s that interested

Thx
Adam

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