From: "Brian Higgins" Received: from mail-pg1-f174.google.com ([209.85.215.174] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7125911 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 18:23:20 +0200 Received: by mail-pg1-f174.google.com with SMTP id x5-v6so11075033pgp.7 for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:32:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flavor-tv.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=VvP5ToJrw9jVCmGdp1YSGPymgfA1XaZGZjjCC6nEdEA=; b=Z5rRbhvFogjHsiTZuKk987TfDc1wPJhiRXw15+rLJRpgzJ6ejXkwXtV7X+YjlBVMxZ PDmu4M+2vTK2bidnCQLvwX+1aUlC0OZWKpdtTOnmHXpsHg8GfB0g7lcUaoDUC9uWb+9k yYJsQpEMX0F8z+M7pKY8pSWoV+pHIzVGWhLf6NH1zHuDY8CUj471KSfxRkBYl80Q2/fh w+Ax2/vuxi32Y5dW5qAsCpHuB6XG+5kzzx/8CvJTpfvSCX3PlIMZc6RhFzq1r8SdekVJ TQ9Vk8gBTu22vSIxt5pkPn3DQI3Qy1V7EHqpC2ynb/ydaM8RKCfGRWVUyb68lpsxvwz3 SOQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=VvP5ToJrw9jVCmGdp1YSGPymgfA1XaZGZjjCC6nEdEA=; b=jzjUqoJPfkgiMPeQK15jZpbk5QaBEYaJhcZECC9Bt2kgV9lZ7vD1bZa1mESXNbQTXH FZOSCLU+OcAaR9sQPOoCKplHHFlhbQ9xz65RamxmY4PuT2LAO5MsUY12hjRZ2hxEHKJv no7cGqZwWuHvXSW8aK6D9EvUgTVAL5Ybod6uvogN48Yylh40pR4HWZ4i1bKHwia+2NZn 7h71oq+Me3AB6DQ2UKF8jxXUsqCOBHDv83Cok4zkgfDg5QGIo9NxOOmftP/tRYblDf+k Lln5Te+TPEODFNeW931SMzT2G88AvIM1UycQGtdPzseoZQgZf7FWyUEKnIgymqLanVCc WI6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFBIUMAsUdKhYtBtWKn76xmLF6fNkXFM3e2sV/26LbK0oSwYEQv bB12EENnzCUJfMUCj+d9AHUT0Em4sxFoZCXqPudEEERlYQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpc8nfdUQdJUduyKZHbI8pmlFdn7J/IcF3aUTyZquXLb9DXot9iUCc584s2wNVGq3V7afefJldenV4qEKSdSLwY= X-Received: by 2002:a63:8f53:: with SMTP id r19-v6mr25017464pgn.17.1533141148284; Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:32:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:32:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Photoshop Panoramic 360 imaging To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000088cd490572623dc3" --00000000000088cd490572623dc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use a Nodal Ninja like the one linked along with a program called PT Gui for my pano work, but I shoot them CG/HDR usage. To get rid of your seam, try the offset filter in Photoshop. Offset it to reveal the seam in your image, clone it out, then offset it back by the original amount and you should be good to go. It has a heavy CG bent, but I learned how to do all this stuff from this book, which is great: http://www.hdrlabs.com/book/ -b On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:07 AM Nick Fox-Gieg wrote: > Try Mettle tools that were recently integrated into AE--that should give > you a way to get your logo into an equirect without distortion, and also = a > reliable way to view the result. > > As for creating better panoramas, that's a huge question, and as much > about hardware as software. I'd say (except via photogrammetry) you can't > do good 360 video or stereo panoramas with a DSLR or ball-of-GoPros, no > matter how many of them you have. You need a purpose-built 360 > camera--here's a bit more detail on why: > https://developers.google.com/vr/jump/rendering-ods-content.pdf > > However for a mono still panorama, which sounds like your situation, > there's a much simpler solution--one regular DSLR with a NPP ("No Paralla= x > Point") tripod mount like this: > https://shop.nodalninja.com/nn3-mk3-series/ > > Nick > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Adam Mercado > wrote: > >> Hi gang, this is not an after effects problem, but the great minds in >> this group probably have some experience here that I can tap into. >> >> Got a request from a new client to produce a 360 image built from photos >> I shoot with their logo added in. I did a bit of google research and sp= ent >> yesterday afternoon shooting some test shots in my back garden. I brough= t >> these shots into Photoshop and used Photomerge to combine them into (a) = a >> cylindrical map and (b) a spherical map. I added a logo to the long flat >> combined image, but when viewed in the 3D viewer there were some problem= s. >> >> 1. The image is squished horizontally so everything is tall and narrow. >> Obviously a no go where client logos are concerned. The settings in the >> dialog box to view the pano seem to have no relevance here as changing t= hem >> made no difference to the results. >> >> 2. The ends of the pano do not blend like the middle shots do, creating = a >> distinct seam at one point of the 360 pano. I shot ten images, left to >> right, overlapping 30-40% each side. Files are named 1-10 and added to t= he >> Photomerge panel in that order. Photomerge then sets image 5 as the firs= t >> layer and blends all the others in sequence, even wrapping around from 1= 0 >> back to 1 in my shots. It does not wrap the =E2=80=98ends=E2=80=99 of th= e image creating a >> seamless 360, which turns out to be images 5 and 6. >> >> 3. In the Adobe help page for Photomerge it suggests having a top/bottom >> or ceiling/floor images to create 360 x 180 pano, but never gives the st= eps >> to do this. Also, the menu item in the help page does not correspond to = the >> version of Photoshop I have (19.4.1 if I recall). It=E2=80=99s CC2018 an= d I=E2=80=99m sure >> the latest update >> >> I also downloaded some free pano shots from wpanorama.com to test with >> Photoshop 3D viewer, and while the 360 wrap was seamless the horizontal >> squish was still present. So, why are my photos not wrapping properly, h= ow >> can I fix or ensure better shots? And is the Adobe 3D viewer just bunk a= nd >> I should try something more reliable? >> >> Any ideas of where to look or what other app to use to pull off this job >> massively welcome. My first foray into anything VR so it=E2=80=99s a bit= of a >> learning curve, which is fine, but every how-to page I=E2=80=99ve found = just makes >> it sound bing-bang-boom easy as pie you=E2=80=99re done. >> >> I can supply files if anyone=E2=80=99s that interested >> >> Thx >> Adam >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > --=20 brian higgins | creative director Flavor ny =E2=80=A2 chicago =E2=80=A2 la =E2=80=A2 detroit =E2=80=A2 tokyo 312.706.5500 brian.higgins@flavor.tv flavor.tv --00000000000088cd490572623dc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use a Nodal Ninja like the one linked along with a progr= am called PT Gui for my pano work, but I shoot them CG/HDR usage. To get ri= d of your seam, try the offset filter in Photoshop.=C2=A0 Offset it to reve= al the seam in your image, clone it out, then offset it back by the origina= l amount and you should be good to go.

It has a heavy CG= bent, but I learned how to do all this stuff from this book, which is grea= t:

-b

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:07 AM Nick Fox-Gieg &= lt;AE-List@media-motion.tv&g= t; wrote:
Try Mett= le tools that were recently integrated into AE--that should give you a way = to get your logo into an equirect without distortion, and also a reliable w= ay to view the result.=C2=A0

As for creating better pano= ramas, that's a huge question, and as much about hardware as software. = I'd say (except via photogrammetry) you can't do good 360 video or = stereo panoramas with a DSLR or ball-of-GoPros, no matter how many of them = you have. You need a purpose-built 360 camera--here's a bit more detail= on why:

However for a mono = still panorama, which sounds like your situation, there's a much simple= r solution--one regular DSLR with a NPP ("No Parallax Point") tri= pod mount like this:=C2=A0

Nick

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi gang, this is not an after effects problem, but the great minds in= this group probably have some experience here that I can tap into.

Got a request from a new client to produce a 360 image built from photos I = shoot with their logo added in.=C2=A0 I did a bit of google research and sp= ent yesterday afternoon shooting some test shots in my back garden. I broug= ht these shots into Photoshop and used Photomerge to combine them into (a) = a cylindrical map and (b) a spherical map. I added a logo to the long flat = combined image, but when viewed in the 3D viewer there were some problems. =

1. The image is squished horizontally so everything is tall and narrow. Obv= iously a no go where client logos are concerned. The settings in the dialog= box to view the pano seem to have no relevance here as changing them made = no difference to the results.

2. The ends of the pano do not blend like the middle shots do, creating a d= istinct seam at one point of the 360 pano. I shot ten images, left to right= , overlapping 30-40% each side. Files are named 1-10 and added to the Photo= merge panel in that order. Photomerge then sets image 5 as the first layer = and blends all the others in sequence, even wrapping around from 10 back to= 1 in my shots. It does not wrap the =E2=80=98ends=E2=80=99 of the image cr= eating a seamless 360, which turns out to be images 5 and 6.

3. In the Adobe help page for Photomerge it suggests having a top/bottom or= ceiling/floor images to create 360 x 180 pano, but never gives the steps t= o do this. Also, the menu item in the help page does not correspond to the = version of Photoshop I have (19.4.1 if I recall). It=E2=80=99s CC2018 and I= =E2=80=99m sure the latest update

I also downloaded some free pano shots from wpanorama.com to test with Photo= shop 3D viewer, and while the 360 wrap was seamless the horizontal squish w= as still present. So, why are my photos not wrapping properly, how can I fi= x or ensure better shots? And is the Adobe 3D viewer just bunk and I should= try something more reliable?

Any ideas of where to look or what other app to use to pull off this job ma= ssively welcome. My first foray into anything VR so it=E2=80=99s a bit of a= learning curve, which is fine, but every how-to page I=E2=80=99ve found ju= st makes it sound bing-bang-boom easy as pie you=E2=80=99re done.

I can supply files if anyone=E2=80=99s that interested

Thx
Adam

Sent from my iPad

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