From: Received: from sonic302-22.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.137.68.148] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTP id 7134228 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:38:24 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1534358880; bh=YCa2buWhbGKcexKxtqi3D94dRMJfzJYI7kYKWIoul9Q=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=BJy7VyA7jSq+FsQRyJayj38XmFLeLm2JAmJXMjpm0nLmzCfQiNNUv6+tssfaGJBOJdLZ94hsZVh9pTrXIstpUbIGIOz/sk9dPR0Z3ok9n3V8ifHmNByXXStg1noAK986R0EErJazwMd2erMb4a8EGyNePyLtzOeXbXPNSfUVWCOIz6k5t1MGC04cQnuTmeKnCFeHlQoBc1KyrswV+AR+KmjV29kXSDTAMDXLOPdJl+LThQtCq1foNBWemYBPEql5Ug1I+i1bcQDm5MBUwlk29RnVERaxP6Q/CyoU8biDCmo17aC8GPaeszo7fmbWdZPUcnlJ73hdDhCqbeQAFLqkHw== X-YMail-OSG: jYD5gpQVM1k3h6LldPO3lUeHNRDZ8Y3oWxgYrid46vRYZl4E9A.Gl.e3d.m6MNq APoCyAriGd7.eykkfbRFBIlNws2RS7qBxLLbwWBX8GAmqjanXS9b8W7RgNpPpNLEhYCQX5CaqZBR WpWdw5ptTufsOc8F1Oyij6X7flxdmU4cl6MfF.983_uAlqPSbXxxmKwtRZIVR4VM_rBM0AB1QBmA Li.5kDGgrdMixmZB6xb7_2BXLYQ3o2GzasuOTbGXbXmYWCxJwRK2n9H5YmxlKkbgqIm3g_SQ0ZWi tCLHXWRghBfYN6ghNmi9p3RJLBZ3h6FD4B1ICGoP82SNo664xnHLucEfcwSL9qvAE2lZjJv.FMdH 7VVzNi2SLoSd0M8cUtiEBqOV6EwN50hSlkh6nwxODYMipqrvN62PzxfKIO9z0UXDknLdWACEQ9wP RQJR4IGiUqkpSG2nLO0k5jC.KvL13d3WHFWZCgfPGvIxYFL9RqHUGHtLvJ8OeawyYaHAYZ26bs7z 7g.tbpdL12qV.Fao10IzCE8qnP2dCiYY.0.w8OJfCkEVPk1HRCrcccbp63GlJwmZvvJ59mef0v0M YBjQUu4.dIJZEIYovlt.cLTCc_eLgTvCD8GC7Ut0nakcdIxncYVAVCoD3vSGQeT.gQz2_RRnHjHF 7Xf32T31aHy4zVcCdOK69mGX3V0JgDCBSH4nzrNQNTWqLhy7vXuvGqCTutg1Q3t2TyKVTOWSMbNL _JLX0pcJl2wWkC6Mt1b35yKDfwU6fy4_6KN3fqxoUU3M.Sj2HjTcRLukuwOMuqe4aARJjvl1g.px 0Tk_7WSqhyHIiMV4RBT4y825_JYozVEC0ahYwSKhfbs7j95Pr3AFP_TxSn7NSxhGHa_hCLrSBNcs jZ8ITffoXzZj7qG7UHasbzeS9QGnIBhXZEF.WYuDu_hRsfYcQGdpgSbatBEe0XN5yMjNppWgHJY6 oLxT9OEyl23o4jcyqH5Pc597SG98D01Ljd.4qWb_wqOfvPeGi4HcqwC9V9XcDGCnW Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 18:48:00 +0000 Received: from cpe-104-175-177-201.socal.res.rr.com (EHLO [192.168.0.108]) ([104.175.177.201]) by smtp401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 657c30a044f2f4f2398cbc371962edaa for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 18:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 11:47:42 -0700 To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: <82b01f93-32cf-499a-b0a3-f07df90af336@Spark> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [AE] Urgent Cineon export questions X-Readdle-Message-ID: 82b01f93-32cf-499a-b0a3-f07df90af336@Spark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="5b74755b_41a7c4c9_271" --5b74755b_41a7c4c9_271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Either should be fine. IMHO the render settings are way more confusing th= an the utility effect and have been forever. If you use render settings, = import the =46TG and do a log to Lin conversion to check it. On Aug 15, 2018, 11:44 AM -0700, Stephen van Vuuren , wrote: > > Yes, you should be going Lin to log. > > And just to be clear, you are saying doing this via adjustment layer an= d NOT logarithmic conversion in Export Render settings, correct=3F > > =46rom: After Effects Mail List > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:35 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: =5BAE=5D Urgent Cineon export questions > > Stephen, > > Gamma is meant to match your display target, so that the files look the= same on any display. > > Black point should be 95, and the 90% white point to taste - 685 is spe= c, but I usually went to 710 or so. Do you have over-whites you want to d= efine=3F > > Yes, you should be going Lin to log. > > BTW, check your settings by adding another AL with Cineon set to a inte= rpret from log to Lin, display gamma whatever your display is set at, 95 = and 685, as a print predictor. > > Tim Sassoon > Sassoon =46ilm Design > 350 Sunset Avenue > Suite =231 > Venice, CA 90291 > > W 310.664.9115 > M 310.266.8630 > On Aug 15, 2018, 11:27 AM -0700, Stephen van Vuuren , wrote: > > > It's been years since I delivered log cineon file and sleep deprived = brain is not working. Client is asking for: > > > > =22 DPX (Cineon) format, 10 bit color, P3-D65 color space=22 > > > > I confirmed they want log not linear. My project is 16-bit, I've set = it to P3- D65 color space. Export will be CC 2014 (for speed). I assume C= ineon export still does conversion linear to log since there is checkbox = still for =22logarithmic conversion=22 which I've check and set unit to 1= 6-bit. > > > > However, unclear on if anything else from =22full range preset=22 nee= ds to be adjusted e.g. ' current gamma is 1=22 - should that not be 2.4 (= which was my calibration target)=3F > > > > Googling shows people doing all sorts of thing. > > > > Stephen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > =46rom: After Effects Mail List > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 12:56 PM > > To: After Effects Mail List > > Subject: Re: =5BAE=5D Major Ae project corruption - and how I fixed i= t. > > > > Importing troublesome projects has saved me many times. > > > > > > On 8/15/2018 12:25 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > > > > > After working on this project for a week, my iStat menus are report= ing that all 12 cores are at 100% when I just have Ae running and no comp= s even open. Computer is correspondingly very sluggish and beach-bally (O= SX). > > > > > > I deleted prefs and un- and re-installed Ae and it persisted. > > > > > > It only happens with one project that=E2=80=99s gotten pretty large= - lots of tracking and 3D camera solves. Keyframes galore. Each save tak= es around 30 seconds. > > > > > > I think I fixed it. It was laborious: > > > > > > > > > I have 10 comps in the corrupt Project. > > > Select Comp 01, Reduce Project, Save As =E2=80=9CComp 01-100=E2=80=9D= (100 is for my > > > CPUs pegging at 100%) Create New Project. > > > Import Comp 01-100 - CPU levels go back to normal: what I expect fo= r an idling Ae Project. > > > Save as =22Comp 01 only.=E2=80=9D > > > > > > Repeat process after opening original 10-com corrupt project for al= l 10 Comps. > > > > > > I might import all 10 Comps into a master Project again, but only a= fter I start feeling lucky again. > > > > > > Posting this in case anybody else runs into a similar issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > Epilog / PS. This didn=E2=80=99t work on one Comp. So, I opened the= Comp. Select all Layers. Copy. Create New Project and Comp. Paste. Relin= k footage. I got an error message telling my footage was tracked on a 360= x 180 layer (=3F=3F=3F - Not true), but my tracking data was fine. I jus= t deleted the Mocha Pro plug-in that created the data, and all is well. S= ave. > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to --5b74755b_41a7c4c9_271 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Either should be fine. IMHO the rend= er settings are way more confusing than the utility effect and have been = forever. If you use render settings, import the =46TG and do a log to Lin= conversion to check it.
On Aug 15, 2018, 11:44 AM -0700, St= ephen van Vuuren <AE-List=40media-motion.tv>, wrote:

> Yes, you should be going Lin to log.

&=23160;

And just to be clear, you are saying doing thi= s via adjustment layer and NOT logarithmic conversion in Export Render se= ttings, correct=3F

&=23160;

=46rom: After Effects Mail List <AE-= List=40media-motion.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:35 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List=40media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: =5BAE=5D Urgent Cineon export questions

&=23160;

Stephen,

Gamma is meant to match your display target, so that the files look the s= ame on any display.

Black point should be 95, and the 90% white point to taste - 685 is spec,= but I usually went to 710 or so. Do you have over-whites you want to def= ine=3F

Yes, you should be going Lin to log.

BTW, check your settings by adding another AL with Cineon set to a interp= ret from log to Lin, display gamma whatever your display is set at, 95 an= d 685, as a print predictor.


Tim Sassoon
Sassoon =46ilm Design
350 Sunset Avenue
Suite =231
Venice, CA 90291

W 310.664.9115
M 310.266.8630

On Aug 15, 2018, 11:27 AM -0700, Stephen van V= uuren <AE-List=40medi= a-motion.tv>, wrote:

It's been years since I delivered log cineon f= ile and sleep deprived brain is not working. Client is asking for:

=22 DPX (Cineon) format, 10 bit color, P3-D65 color space=22

I confirmed they want log not linear. My project is 16-bit, I've set it t= o P3- D65 color space. Export will be CC 2014 (for speed). I assume Cineo= n export still does conversion linear to log since there is checkbox stil= l for =22logarithmic conversion=22 which I've check and set unit to 16-bi= t.

However, unclear on if anything else from =22full range preset=22 needs t= o be adjusted e.g. ' current gamma is 1=22 - should that not be 2.4 (whic= h was my calibration target)=3F

Googling shows people doing all sorts of thing.

Stephen

-----Original Message-----
=46rom: After Effects Mail List <AE-List=40media-motion.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 12:56 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List=40media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: =5BAE=5D Major Ae project corruption - and how I fixed it.
Importing troublesome projects has saved me many times.


On 8/15/2018 12:25 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:

After working on this project for a week, my i= Stat menus are reporting that all 12 cores are at 100% when I just have A= e running and no comps even open. Computer is correspondingly very sluggi= sh and beach-bally (OSX).

I deleted prefs and un- and re-installed Ae and it persisted.

It only happens with one project that=E2=80=99s gotten pretty large - lot= s of tracking and 3D camera solves. Keyframes galore. Each save takes aro= und 30 seconds.

I think I fixed it. It was laborious:


I have 10 comps in the corrupt Project.
Select Comp 01, Reduce Project, Save As =E2=80=9CComp 01-100=E2=80=9D (10= 0 is for my
CPUs pegging at 100%) Create New Project.
Import Comp 01-100 - CPU levels go back to normal: what I expect for an i= dling Ae Project.
Save as =22Comp 01 only.=E2=80=9D

Repeat process after opening original 10-com corrupt project for all 10 C= omps.

I might import all 10 Comps into a master Project again, but only after I= start feeling lucky again.

Posting this in case anybody else runs into a similar issue.



Epilog / PS. This didn=E2=80=99t work on one Comp. So, I opened the Comp.= Select all Layers. Copy. Create New Project and Comp. Paste. Relink foot= age. I got an error message telling my footage was tracked on a 360 x 180= layer (=3F=3F=3F - Not true), but my tracking data was fine. I just dele= ted the Mocha Pro plug-in that created the data, and all is well. Save.


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