From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from mail-pl1-f173.google.com ([209.85.214.173] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7154838 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:31:41 +0200 Received: by mail-pl1-f173.google.com with SMTP id b97-v6so8633372plb.0 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:42:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriszwar-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=c3BfIRsv2OblVu15lWNmzy/CVFfDcen6HUBCVLQspfM=; b=Oomu6F4gfwPt/VOGSTYhvjUz8krAyYl691WnqeOD8vongPB3C9jcdafQiyYTR+OeNr YJl9x+FEyLodJUA2SQsA+QPhhx+QH8rL3L1actAcaf1i4G4jraQ0K8OIjIRRbFJJWEuP 7SbEBSYRqSuevHXU+wohVJKgQbdgQzMUgU1qjD3OgmAY7SYFdT68SmrCIZFKBAtOS0yy knZaTdiWtRbSIzG9KGY1WdsO0A5BrKQxUD1yiGkqYNW0PklLY5QgcPWniLkxQaGzXYJU RlyC6nruqMVw7aQFvgIGuB6og0U3a9pnqvjXdNe+yuUS62E+OtL+vyzqn+jZHlsRYPkV eNPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=c3BfIRsv2OblVu15lWNmzy/CVFfDcen6HUBCVLQspfM=; b=pWs5CUG5bOuGtNQ0q2/DB5iYuFiXl18QJpJSe61fG2JqXlIMD9AZGiWYcU2XgeG8I0 ZwUUOOrB5lOnhC65QDWsa2P99lPCYbcPqSprZBVSdKMs5Mu8KGtkQQIIRE+pq3Mb9r8b d/ktspWWseIz42Mfr/nP3fmWpe949LuX7UFZOiU8qyaT1yx/zMK0tcxi9dfJWlhzxxEq T+e43F5cY0B90UPmhka1MouFV+5BGC5qP0u8hg1HwFzEHXItdB+KTrw376F/QtdEgilB kXo0+iRDDp1bBFgRrGjAZSsL3DI/6bxf9FepahDR7etXT9sRXxTaWQci8qsYIyTeCZ9k YRWA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogVEie4hKFDXR5wyd4/ibdQlXvG0MvBS+m12fvudMZ4V5tG7mg6 QByLJPV987xAZoVxMypFZekoEbPgpA4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62+7H6m2diyLPaa85vFyZIDUCy9JpAHMP/+c+46fOhpC6lHKXGZTYIDms1l/8kGfeqhCxNy/g== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:aa8f:: with SMTP id d15-v6mr8993046plr.64.1537767759335; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.4] ([101.164.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 71-v6sm45714224pfx.182.2018.09.23.22.42.37 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AEE252B5-B42F-49F6-B926-6CB0640F090C" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Organising cameras Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:42:35 +1000 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <93CA0CEA-ABFC-4ACC-A993-D410FB926204@chriszwar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) --Apple-Mail=_AEE252B5-B42F-49F6-B926-6CB0640F090C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Yes, if I was starting fresh I=E2=80=99d do it that way, I might go = through the whole project and replace the cameras with ones that have = linked properties, just to tidy it up a bit. I=E2=80=99m really just thinking out lout, but basically if I have 10 = comps with the same camera in them, and I want to duplicate them all but = then swap the camera, then I=E2=80=99m still manually copying & pasting = 10 times. I keep wanting to do something like an alt-drag / replace = footage but with a camera. I=E2=80=99m only thinking about it now = because many of my comps have nulls and location markers parented to the = camera, so even pasting a new camera into the composition means I=E2=80=99= m having to manually re-parent. > On 24 Sep 2018, at 1:34 pm, Phil Spitler = wrote: >=20 > Seems like the you could just copy the camera with linked properties = into each comp. >=20 > Seems really clean and efficient workflow to me. >=20 > Phil >=20 >=20 > > Phil Spitler Creative Technologist > t 415.394.8200 c 415.571.3139 = = = = >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Chris Zwar > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi all, >>=20 >> Just wanting to pick the collective brains on how everyone is keeping = track of multiple cameras in large projects. I like to think my = projects are well organised but this is one thing that I haven=E2=80=99t = cracked yet. >>=20 >> Currently I=E2=80=99m working on a sequence that has over 20 shots in = it, compositing multipass-renders from 3D. I get a camera for each = shot, which I=E2=80=99m then using to roll out multiple FX that are = being generated in After Effects for the composites. I would guess that = each camera is used in 10 - 15 additional precomps for each shot. >>=20 >> The problem is that as the animation progresses, the cameras are = often changed and updated. Swapping out 3D renders is simple, but so = far I=E2=80=99m importing each new camera and manually pasting it into = each composition. This means I can miss comps because the process is = manual. And as the new cameras have new names, this can also break = expressions and parenting. >>=20 >> In previous projects I=E2=80=99ve had a =E2=80=9Cmaster=E2=80=9D = camera that I=E2=80=99ve then linked to with expressions to create a = version that I can roll out in precomps, and always use that one = instead. If I planned ahead a bit better I would have done that here, = but it=E2=80=99s not something I=E2=80=99ve done with 20+ shots, each = with individual cameras. >>=20 >> Does anyone have a better & cleaner method than making a master = camera comp that is always linked to via expressions? >>=20 >>=20 >> -Chris >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to > >=20 --Apple-Mail=_AEE252B5-B42F-49F6-B926-6CB0640F090C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Yes, = if I was starting fresh I=E2=80=99d do it that way, I might go through = the whole project and replace the cameras with ones that have linked = properties, just to tidy it up a bit.

I=E2=80=99m really just thinking out = lout, but basically if I have 10 comps with the same camera in them, and = I want to duplicate them all but then swap the camera, then I=E2=80=99m = still manually copying & pasting 10 times.  I keep wanting to = do something like an alt-drag / replace footage but with a camera. =  I=E2=80=99m only thinking about it now because many of my comps = have nulls and location markers parented to the camera, so even pasting = a new camera into the composition means I=E2=80=99m having to manually = re-parent.

On 24 Sep 2018, at 1:34 pm, = Phil Spitler <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Seems like the you = could just copy the camera with linked properties into each comp.

Seems really clean and = efficient workflow to me.

Phil


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On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi = all,

Just wanting to pick the collective = brains on how everyone is keeping track of multiple cameras in large = projects.  I like to think my projects are well organised but this = is one thing that I haven=E2=80=99t cracked yet.

Currently I=E2=80=99m working on a sequence that has over 20 = shots in it, compositing multipass-renders from 3D.  I get a camera = for each shot, which I=E2=80=99m then using to roll out multiple FX that = are being generated in After Effects for the composites.  I would = guess that each camera is used in 10 - 15 additional precomps for each = shot.

The problem is that as the animation = progresses, the cameras are often changed and updated.  Swapping = out 3D renders is simple, but so far I=E2=80=99m importing each new = camera and manually pasting it into each composition.  This means I = can miss comps because the process is manual.  And as the new = cameras have new names, this can also break expressions and = parenting.

In previous projects I=E2=80=99ve = had a =E2=80=9Cmaster=E2=80=9D camera that I=E2=80=99ve then linked to = with expressions to create a version that I can roll out in precomps, = and always use that one instead.  If I planned ahead a bit better I = would have done that here, but it=E2=80=99s not something I=E2=80=99ve = done with 20+ shots, each with individual cameras.

Does anyone have a better & cleaner method than making a = master camera comp that is always linked to via expressions?


-Chris
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