From: "Greg Balint" Received: from mail-wm1-f44.google.com ([209.85.128.44] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7175382 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 02:32:54 +0200 Received: by mail-wm1-f44.google.com with SMTP id 206-v6so3679954wmb.5 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:44:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=GrbnRjFxf3vgbBRp6dG+bC4VkRr8Ht6G/RLzPA5AiiY=; b=czlW3+jHRzCjOErUZ8UU6POL3DBXoaj8I64oMMrjh1+E/DbrkcqoY8cMjPLM1TMB9W rU9hVJNMVI6liQCc1081Tjw3EeUUL4/N+xIt6Fd1Qr73NdQtb1wZ4TVFVrBUcoDToayG Q2KyrQkC2un17RQ3nlfqcgZFxZIZj51aokpX/32MKgMyNSOez4O2HXg0JpBpAR+7+BhI HEHdhGX3OiEIsRIWOFZKixl4pDzglqfgDXDXFWlhvqvkAtOdqhtwaCbUczoqJCC8/I+n 8Es/AHTzEl2FqKchyUvc1sj/zSv2oujR7jEuJP1JH0Wwn1MY8FXfrEd2nF2DGFv2k5GK pKqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=GrbnRjFxf3vgbBRp6dG+bC4VkRr8Ht6G/RLzPA5AiiY=; b=s4etCs/XV2qgjCJ/oqAesIwx4kjf6w6uOYAtlgbjSKxkXYST+/NVCJP1ZIAUCHo+g7 K/8yDO7xOusMwjZNlqxvSxPzgldGhzop1hNZ0mhtWw7xAtfPbG5pGNCG3gOsXVSGDm6q H0ayljO6lCrwBeE6yg2SSftZTd+IeYvBQaQmO8/a0/oD8XC0GpzMLum0dv5xSJV7fNOD Eo5nQriSDxoxo9MLNYI83RcCUgKkmW/bAsmWvt5Hu56GVROGadzxdUY9biceWt9uJLL9 CfeXyBbBMrLrYik1daE2j6pRddtAnlETuFvLSq6/+EZdmT/uaRRhHYSi0FmVmghYzOtN l7Cg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog7Ck9ysK2yB9CfhGoyHflcmjQ/1YbPNlCAyPPza6oUmLtQGrfk sxXGcYAN/pA+0lDV6s8ZXhnqBSritM2G39Br7F+3uw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62wU2wXrHyAIKM4rI8jgjGip+hEJ/oIgIyts1UnZ3PptkLrixm42Pr+sZGCCbvoVEZN9GpnlLqHtfAR1ZvRLmw= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:6c09:: with SMTP id h9-v6mr4778780wmc.95.1539823482714; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:44:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. Mutli-Threaded Support To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b43ecf057876173c" --000000000000b43ecf057876173c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah. This statement worried me back when CC first happened and it seems like it may have come true for this topic. There was a lot of voices saying "why would they do a ton more features and improvements if they're already getting our money monthly." On the RenderGarden front, has anyone tried using that alongside AfterCodecs? Has anyone tried or have recommendation for RenderBoss? (another multi-thread multi-computer renderer piece of software) On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 8:06 PM Adam Mercado wrote: > Plus, what incentive do they have to give users what they actually want, > as opposed to what looks impressive in a bullet point features list. I > mean, they already have our money regardless of what they do > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 17, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: > > Greg, > > > > Be interesting to see if you get a response. The awesome Todd was the las= t > Adobe person ever to officially comment on this. It=E2=80=99s shocking re= ally that > it will soon be 5 years without this. GPU accelerated curves effect is no= t > exactly the same thing as full-out multi-processing. > > > My own speculation is the last time they did a full code rewrite and > announced it was the 32-bit to 64-bit. So there was long period of no new > features. That was pre-CC. In the market, I would be pleasantly shocked t= o > see them actually do that because announcing full multi-threading support > in 2018/19/20 would be embarrassing not exciting as it was in when it fir= st > arrived. > > > > My guess is the engineers would love to do it but Adobe business is =E2= =80=9Cno > way in hell=E2=80=9D as AE needs new features each release cycle. Adobe= =E2=80=99s business > model is great for sales, terrible for new architecture. Other software > companies are creating the same problem. You see less and less substantia= l > changes and overhauls in development due to subscriptions, annual release= s > etc. > > > > Stephen > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:23 AM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. > Mutli-Threaded Support > > > > Hey guys, > > > > I know this seems to come up at least once a year, and normally whenever > there are larger updates, but I wanted to see if maybe we could get any > progress reports or statements. > > > > So I went over to the Adobe Uservoice website and voted on some feature > requests and ideas a while back. One post that consistently gets comments > and votes and is currently the top feature request on there is for full > program multiple-thread support. A lot of people want to see the app use > all of their hardware as it used to do back in 2014 days. > > > > > https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911311-after-effects/suggestions= /33836305-full-program-multi-threaded-support > > > > Even though I understand that same style of multiprocessing would probabl= y > not be as feasible as previously because of the new code architecture use= d, > etc, I feel like this has been such a hot button issue for users and Adob= e > has remained relatively silent on it. > > > > I wish we could get some form of official response from Adobe After > Effects team on this. If it can't be done anymore or isn't being looked > into anymore, it would be nice if we could at least be informed of this s= o > people can stop pleading for it. They should definitely close the topic > over there on the uservoice forums with official response if it's not goi= ng > to progress in that direction. Don't give people hope if it isn't in the > cards. > > > > I don't mean to be someone to single anyone out on here, and I'm not > trying to start any heated discussions or arguments, but is there any > chance someone from the AE team could chime in on this in a more official > capacity? Victoria, could you comment on this? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 9:26 AM Mathias M=C3=B6hl > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I am looking for some beta testers for the upcoming V6 of MochaImport+. > > It adds full compatibility with the mocha plugin version of CC2019 and > also adds some exciting new features. > > https://mamoworld.com/blog/mochaimport-v6-beta-testers-wanted > > > > If you want to join the beta, please send me an email to > info@mamoworld.com > > > > Thanks! > > Mathias > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *mamoworld.com * > * simplify your cgi* > > Dr. Mathias M=C3=B6hl > Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany > Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61 > info@mamoworld.com > > > > --000000000000b43ecf057876173c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah. This statement worried me back when CC first happen= ed and it seems like it may have come true for this topic. There was a lot = of voices saying "why would they do a ton more features and improvemen= ts if they're already getting our money monthly."

On the RenderGarden front, has anyone tried us= ing that alongside AfterCodecs? Has anyone tried or have recommendation for= RenderBoss? (another multi-thread multi-computer renderer piece of softwar= e)

On Wed, Oct 1= 7, 2018, 8:06 PM Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Plus, what incentive do they have to give users wha= t they actually want, as opposed to what looks impressive in a bullet point= features list. I mean, they already have our money regardless of what they= do

Sent from my= iPad

On Oct 17, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Greg,

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Be interesting to see if you get a response. The awe= some Todd was the last Adobe person ever to officially comment on this. It= =E2=80=99s shocking really that it will soon be 5 years without this. GPU a= ccelerated curves effect is not exactly the same thing as full-out multi-processing.


My own speculation is the last time they did a full code rewrite and announ= ced it was the 32-bit to 64-bit. So there was long period of no new feature= s. That was pre-CC. In the market, I would be pleasantly shocked to see the= m actually do that because announcing full multi-threading support in 2018/19/20 would be embarrassing not excit= ing as it was in when it first arrived.

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My guess is the engineers would love to do it but Ad= obe business is =E2=80=9Cno way in hell=E2=80=9D as AE needs new features e= ach release cycle. Adobe=E2=80=99s business model is great for sales, terri= ble for new architecture. Other software companies are creating the same problem. You see less and less substantial changes and overhauls = in development due to subscriptions, annual releases etc.

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Stephen

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From: After Effects Mail List <AE-Lis= t@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:23 AM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>=
Subject: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. = Mutli-Threaded Support

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Hey guys,

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I know this seems to come up at least once a year, a= nd normally whenever there are larger updates, but I wanted to see if maybe= we could get any progress reports or statements.=C2=A0

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So I went over to the Adobe Uservoice website and vo= ted on some feature requests and ideas a while back. One post that consiste= ntly gets comments and votes and is currently the top feature request on th= ere is for full program multiple-thread support. A lot of people want to see the app use all of their hardware as = it used to do back in 2014 days.=C2=A0

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Even though I understand that same style of multipro= cessing would probably not be as feasible as previously because of the new = code architecture used, etc, I feel like this has been such a hot button is= sue for users and Adobe has remained relatively silent on it.

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I wish we could get some form of official response f= rom Adobe After Effects team on this. If it can't be done anymore or is= n't being looked into anymore, it would be nice if we could at least be= informed of this so people can stop pleading for it.=C2=A0 They should definitely close the topic over there on the use= rvoice forums with official response if it's not going to progress in t= hat direction. Don't give people hope if it isn't in the cards.=C2= =A0

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I don't mean to be someone to single anyone out = on here, and I'm not trying to start any heated discussions or argument= s, but is there any chance someone from the AE team could chime in on this = in a more official capacity?=C2=A0 Victoria, could you comment on this?=C2=A0

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 9:26 AM Mathias M=C3=B6hl <= AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi everyone,

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I am looking for some beta testers for the upcoming = V6 of MochaImport+.

It adds full compatibility with the mocha plugin ver= sion of CC2019 and also adds some exciting new features.

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If you want to join the beta, please send me an emai= l to info@mamoworld.com

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Thanks!

Mathias

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mamoworld.com
simplify y= our cgi

Dr. Mathias M=C3=B6hl
Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany
Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61
= info@mamoworld.com

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