From: "Nathan Shipley" Received: from mail-pf1-f180.google.com ([209.85.210.180] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7175423 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 05:43:15 +0200 Received: by mail-pf1-f180.google.com with SMTP id j23-v6so14220200pfi.4 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:55:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hKIM37u907BRtuFYj3yZqWTdkV0BDpQ/z733vkHYK7Q=; b=DM2VUW6iKcH8GbxAqPvoOTtMPhHpBSVe/oz/6LFRBuxXG50yJwKR4UqYKBnT/lols1 UTs8AITRsJ3ikiR5TtlpzLv+vmSuglVpsVdzzvVXqaLOWbaNVgLKvJ0yd7VkFwsYBWwV QJ+WIKEWM6wfNugqmUy3zlcdfUhTk5X5kueoLY4X12D7oc65mLIohvpTGnZAX6MsG6P7 wjo3dwOsWGPKaRwLHeJzf229VN82gt0KiUAf7AwouTqiG0GkCLZyI+De5zTxx1o+2OOe PyGYmf9tEQiX2g+OAlMeoEkkMxjmWGGplZEpPZY6UySz0kyGFs5aXBi0/d4p12MZZfQE Mrdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hKIM37u907BRtuFYj3yZqWTdkV0BDpQ/z733vkHYK7Q=; b=baMNdWVletJb5QysGYVL7zvY+/slW02L1/pWw/fxnWEPVOteRkLBEx5pRCCF0kx8gR 2OiqAsefTD487RXgkBs4pkpkXJJRwooZoYQJQM2JmdMJNeG9x8I8pNNPSM99IKl3M55C 8YazXrk/aZLZT5en5lyJpb1OQSCYE0Kn81hsz+Su0SHidsLAxp0xMpQbNIW62iPo2PW+ X74edbM8u59LHzHIqxK7VWlyvyfQDhD6RMIC27vMTaNvGvO+bDmI34plL7rtfZ/aQSdK cjHVJIyWwb6JZ6JBiCcHw5EeAQJ/utzhbJRreIk1MokrAOgf0qAxDCdzpEbdBuEYPDhK jtcw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoiTAe1lRHc1c3KuvMFyW5yB8bQWfr6ZMy2x4DBz6C/CmJt0bXUF PNcKBO8lZfKwg/wp0vYIoqXmeieJdiTE2eJqx6GN0A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62HaEu8lAVhWxYkQMLrFxnTIlVSEis1ZyLdJ5dBKkGPpi8Cu67f4EA1yWs38L1VYzxPshRqX08f3QcPRmq+Ygg= X-Received: by 2002:a62:1a16:: with SMTP id a22-v6mr29005397pfa.237.1539834903155; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:55:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:54:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. Mutli-Threaded Support To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006a596a057878c0f9" --0000000000006a596a057878c0f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 for Render Garden. It's been fantastic for me. Sure, doesn't help with RAM previews but it makes such a big difference at render time for most things that I do. Especially with multiple render machines to throw to. Well worth the money. On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:31 PM Stephen van Vuuren wrote: > I found RenderGarden to provide minimal to no benefit on big projects vs > 2014. It really only seem to help on short and simple stuff. The kind of > projects that scream for MP are the 8 to 12 GB per core, all cores slammi= ng > at 100%. I=E2=80=99ve not seen RenderGarden get anywhere close to that. > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:28 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. > Mutli-Threaded Support > > > > For $100 I can say this is a great workaround! > > > > https://www.mekajiki.com/rendergarden/ > > > > I=E2=80=99m a happy purchaser. > > > > > > > On Oct 17, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > > Yeah. This statement worried me back when CC first happened and it seems > like it may have come true for this topic. There was a lot of voices sayi= ng > "why would they do a ton more features and improvements if they're alread= y > getting our money monthly." > > > > On the RenderGarden front, has anyone tried using that alongside > AfterCodecs? Has anyone tried or have recommendation for RenderBoss? > (another multi-thread multi-computer renderer piece of software) > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 8:06 PM Adam Mercado > wrote: > > Plus, what incentive do they have to give users what they actually want, > as opposed to what looks impressive in a bullet point features list. I > mean, they already have our money regardless of what they do > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Oct 17, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: > > Greg, > > > > Be interesting to see if you get a response. The awesome Todd was the las= t > Adobe person ever to officially comment on this. It=E2=80=99s shocking re= ally that > it will soon be 5 years without this. GPU accelerated curves effect is no= t > exactly the same thing as full-out multi-processing. > > > My own speculation is the last time they did a full code rewrite and > announced it was the 32-bit to 64-bit. So there was long period of no new > features. That was pre-CC. In the market, I would be pleasantly shocked t= o > see them actually do that because announcing full multi-threading support > in 2018/19/20 would be embarrassing not exciting as it was in when it fir= st > arrived. > > > > My guess is the engineers would love to do it but Adobe business is =E2= =80=9Cno > way in hell=E2=80=9D as AE needs new features each release cycle. Adobe= =E2=80=99s business > model is great for sales, terrible for new architecture. Other software > companies are creating the same problem. You see less and less substantia= l > changes and overhauls in development due to subscriptions, annual release= s > etc. > > > > Stephen > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:23 AM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. > Mutli-Threaded Support > > > > Hey guys, > > > > I know this seems to come up at least once a year, and normally whenever > there are larger updates, but I wanted to see if maybe we could get any > progress reports or statements. > > > > So I went over to the Adobe Uservoice website and voted on some feature > requests and ideas a while back. One post that consistently gets comments > and votes and is currently the top feature request on there is for full > program multiple-thread support. A lot of people want to see the app use > all of their hardware as it used to do back in 2014 days. > > > > > https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911311-after-effects/suggestions= /33836305-full-program-multi-threaded-support > > > > Even though I understand that same style of multiprocessing would probabl= y > not be as feasible as previously because of the new code architecture use= d, > etc, I feel like this has been such a hot button issue for users and Adob= e > has remained relatively silent on it. > > > > I wish we could get some form of official response from Adobe After > Effects team on this. If it can't be done anymore or isn't being looked > into anymore, it would be nice if we could at least be informed of this s= o > people can stop pleading for it. They should definitely close the topic > over there on the uservoice forums with official response if it's not goi= ng > to progress in that direction. Don't give people hope if it isn't in the > cards. > > > > I don't mean to be someone to single anyone out on here, and I'm not > trying to start any heated discussions or arguments, but is there any > chance someone from the AE team could chime in on this in a more official > capacity? Victoria, could you comment on this? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 9:26 AM Mathias M=C3=B6hl > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I am looking for some beta testers for the upcoming V6 of MochaImport+. > > It adds full compatibility with the mocha plugin version of CC2019 and > also adds some exciting new features. > > https://mamoworld.com/blog/mochaimport-v6-beta-testers-wanted > > > > If you want to join the beta, please send me an email to > info@mamoworld.com > > > > Thanks! > > Mathias > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *mamoworld.com * > * simplify your cgi* > > Dr. Mathias M=C3=B6hl > Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany > Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61 > info@mamoworld.com > > > > --0000000000006a596a057878c0f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1 for Render Garden.=C2=A0 It's been fantastic for me= .=C2=A0 Sure, doesn't help with RAM previews but it makes such a big di= fference at render time for most things that I do.=C2=A0 Especially with mu= ltiple render machines to throw to.=C2=A0 Well worth the money.

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:31 PM S= tephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I found RenderGarden to provide minimal to no benefi= t on big projects vs 2014. It really only seem to help on short and simple = stuff. The kind of projects that scream for MP are the 8 to 12 GB per core,= all cores slamming at 100%. I=E2=80=99ve not seen RenderGarden get anywhere close to that.

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From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:28 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Progr= am. Mutli-Threaded Support

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For $100 I can say this is a great workaround!

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I=E2=80=99m a happy purchaser. =C2=A0<= /p>

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On Oct 17, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Greg Balint <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Yeah. This statement worried me back when CC first h= appened and it seems like it may have come true for this topic. There was a= lot of voices saying "why would they do a ton more features and impro= vements if they're already getting our money monthly."

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On the RenderGarden front, has anyone tried using th= at alongside AfterCodecs? Has anyone tried or have recommendation for Rende= rBoss? (another multi-thread multi-computer renderer piece of software)<= /u>

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 8:06 PM Adam Mercado <AE-List@media-motio= n.tv> wrote:

Plus, what incentive = do they have to give users what they actually want, as opposed to what look= s impressive in a bullet point features list. I mean, they already have our= money regardless of what they do

Sent from my iPad


On Oct 17, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote= :

Greg,

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Be interesting to see if you get a response. The awe= some Todd was the last Adobe person ever to officially comment on this. It= =E2=80=99s shocking really that it will soon be 5 years without this. GPU accelerated curves effect is not exactly the same thing as full-= out multi-processing.


My own speculation is the last time they did a full code rewrite and announ= ced it was the 32-bit to 64-bit. So there was long period of no new feature= s. That was pre-CC. In the market, I would be pleasantly shocked to see the= m actually do that because announcing full multi-threading support in 2018/19/20 would be embarrassing not excit= ing as it was in when it first arrived.

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My guess is the engineers would love to do it but Ad= obe business is =E2=80=9Cno way in hell=E2=80=9D as AE needs new features e= ach release cycle. Adobe=E2=80=99s business model is great for sales, terri= ble for new architecture. Other software companies are creating the same probl= em. You see less and less substantial changes and overhauls in development = due to subscriptions, annual releases etc.

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Stephen

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From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:23 AM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. = Mutli-Threaded Support

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Hey guys,

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I know this seems to come up at least once a year, a= nd normally whenever there are larger updates, but I wanted to see if maybe= we could get any progress reports or statements.=C2=A0

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So I went over to the Adobe Uservoice website and vo= ted on some feature requests and ideas a while back. One post that consiste= ntly gets comments and votes and is currently the top feature request on there is for full program multiple-thread support. = A lot of people want to see the app use all of their hardware as it used to= do back in 2014 days.=C2=A0

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Even though I understand that same style of multipro= cessing would probably not be as feasible as previously because of the new = code architecture used, etc, I feel like this has been such a hot button issue for users and Adobe has remained relatively s= ilent on it.

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I wish we could get some form of official response f= rom Adobe After Effects team on this. If it can't be done anymore or is= n't being looked into anymore, it would be nice if we could at least be informed of this so people can stop pleading for it.=C2= =A0 They should definitely close the topic over there on the uservoice foru= ms with official response if it's not going to progress in that directi= on. Don't give people hope if it isn't in the cards.=C2=A0

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I don't mean to be someone to single anyone out = on here, and I'm not trying to start any heated discussions or argument= s, but is there any chance someone from the AE team could chime in on this in a more official capacity?=C2=A0 Victoria, could you co= mment on this?=C2=A0

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 9:26 AM Mathias M=C3=B6hl <= AE-List@media-= motion.tv> wrote:

Hi everyone,

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I am looking for some beta testers for the upcoming = V6 of MochaImport+.

It adds full compatibility with the mocha plugin ver= sion of CC2019 and also adds some exciting new features.

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If you want to join the beta, please send me an emai= l to info@mamoworld.com<= /a>

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Thanks!

Mathias

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