From: "Greg Balint" Received: from mail-yw1-f48.google.com ([209.85.161.48] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7175942 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 23:16:06 +0200 Received: by mail-yw1-f48.google.com with SMTP id m127-v6so12413677ywb.0 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :user-agent; bh=IuPUNX8UQYcfy54D3CMJKGvJHn1eJAMEve4AX8ICHDI=; b=K0CuqAuukLlbXawg/6CffkKTtWFWLK74tCZke60Ro9xR0M0fdEAUSKebUYQ1vHwVfI ufFhQXlDhOIPtYHEKrFyWQH0YPpQ6GXxA53xXehjo3aPwnsGgpxBYI1vs3wKE6CrtYpA 4KskUBoT5X7wismssSymWT6c41mRZ0wm0gD95qUOxnkAR7aO0XkFv+fQwcnk+j3nDEwQ EWoD7Sh9rqaQR8ZNHPFyeEH1q6SgsIMUp1FSDTfOXAWIg7NwN1AAJDf32pFT0my4vyZZ NWdEjBsLdjXdOszlaaKLbF7nHAgGqEbmiY3NXmjnpxcmbRCb/v56ekvpMWz8CTe8X04r 8zzA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :in-reply-to:references:user-agent; bh=IuPUNX8UQYcfy54D3CMJKGvJHn1eJAMEve4AX8ICHDI=; b=Lj8TbdCKejjnXsV6P/X/1W03x6BsJjI401gj7dLRRrsdu0RpHXSHWuKkPuK+jO3/Bv AYYK7aFdo3/J50pf5ZAmdzJXy0RcQhV7+20ERE/wxaUfFMUl9xYLvdMRIYoYxunGyaJL JW05n4sB4ycqf8zOtxtFctPbcBx1jxdHGAH/kz4Qwkg+xjs+R9F4royAMWPZzPT0aHTB 1YGjz5m4Cv2ifH9xmbllIUVUVkmfMQkNijKcCY2DtbUCiovkCRYvVs1AfqqbFNYji+IV AmU0rSmgEQOfKssCV+KSIUVBzJjE55mAmMdwQ2t+mJytlDSFSffaXZ4++rEIMckWUNuG zhiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoiMzVOXPFTPgZYtQCa6xL/VF9J4QY02lzCjLiCrdtUCD8yPv9Z3 BVdwMmS86IeQC6zqoI0NjevnZgOo X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63WyXwLLeM6ktgUpsQ9PbSLNaC8Pl/Yb8NIt7jScxXl24MdW1BGW5D4mN/JHF6XUzx+tzG2KA== X-Received: by 2002:a81:9482:: with SMTP id l124-v6mr20441003ywg.136.1539898076141; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.9] (static-host-66-18-44-215.epbinternet.com. [66.18.44.215]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w201-v6sm5775361ywa.79.2018.10.18.14.27.55 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_34153382.867444383251" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:27:33 -0400 Message-ID: <09cefc5a-1e0c-4ca4-a5d7-18227a94dd51@getmailbird.com> Subject: Re: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. Mutli-Threaded Support To: "Stephen van Vuuren" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.20.0 X-Mailbird-ID: 09cefc5a-1e0c-4ca4-a5d7-18227a94dd51@getmailbird.com ------=_NextPart_34153382.867444383251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen,=C2=A0 Have you taken a look at Render Boss? https://www.kineticportal.com/renderboss/ This breaks apart the renders into different "chunks" and assigns those ren= ders to multiple threads/PCs... seems like it's a bit different than Render= Garden ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com [http://www.delrazor.com/]/ On 10/18/2018 5:23:00 PM, Stephen van Vuuren wrot= e: > Um . . . I don=E2=80=99t get it. If RenderGarden can do it =E2=80=93 and = I=E2=80=99m a devoted fan =E2=80=93 why can=E2=80=99t Adobe? =C2=A0 Render garden can=E2=80=99t do it =E2=80=93 I think people are quite confus= ed as to what it actually is and what it actually does. It can=E2=80=99t ma= ke AE render faster, just make kicking off multiple renders easier to manag= e. Those renders still run at the speed that version of AE runs. =C2=A0 Rendergarden does support AE2014 but if you go back in AELIST archives and = look at my back and forth with them when the product was announced, it does= not really gain anything except ease of management there either. Multi-threading AE would have huge speed benefit for every aspect of AE =E2= =80=93 including making Rendergarden faster. =C2=A0 Rendergarden is a workaround for the current problem that AE can=E2=80=99t = max out of machine right now but does not address this actual problem at al= l in any form or fashion and you can do the same thing some command line or= other AE engine renders. =C2=A0 Stephen From: After Effects Mail List Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:29 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Program. Mut= li-Threaded Support =C2=A0 Um . . . I don=E2=80=99t get it. If RenderGarden can do it =E2=80=93 and I= =E2=80=99m a devoted fan =E2=80=93 why can=E2=80=99t Adobe? So perhaps it= =E2=80=99s not integrated as well as one might like, but you don=E2=80=99t = have to leave AE to use it and the result is seamless. It runs in the backg= round, uses as many cores as you like, can work across machines, and can sa= ve huge amounts of time. =C2=A0 What am I missing? =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jonathan Penzner Sundance/Realtime =C2=A0 On Oct 18, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Gordon Mah wrote: =C2=A0 Part of the rationale for going to a subscription model was that it would l= oosen the rules publicly traded companies need to adhere to. =C2=A0You can= =E2=80=99t use that excuse any more, Adobe. =C2=A0 Break plugins? =C2=A0We can run a previous version in parallel, no? =C2=A0S= ure multi-threaded is tough, but I=E2=80=99d venture that 32-to-64 bit was = tougher. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99d gladly wait 2 yrs w/out new features if we knew = major core updates were coming. ------=_NextPart_34153382.867444383251 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stephen, 

H= ave you taken a look at Render Boss?

https://www.k= ineticportal.com/renderboss/

This breaks apart the= renders into different "chunks" and assigns those renders to multiple thre= ads/PCs... seems like it's a bit different than Render Garden


///Greg Balint//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/

On 1= 0/18/2018 5:23:00 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <ae-list@media-motion.tv> wr= ote:

> Um . . . I don=E2=80=99t get it. If RenderGarde= n can do it =E2=80=93 and I=E2=80=99m a devoted fan =E2=80=93 why can=E2=80= =99t Adobe?

 

Render garden can=E2=80=99t do it =E2=80=93 I think = people are quite confused as to what it actually is and what it actually do= es. It can=E2=80=99t make AE render faster, just make kicking off multiple = renders easier to manage. Those renders still run at the speed that version of AE runs.

 

Rendergarden does support AE2014 but if you go back = in AELIST archives and look at my back and forth with them when the product= was announced, it does not really gain anything except ease of management = there either.


Multi-threading AE would have huge speed benefit for every aspect of AE =E2= =80=93 including making Rendergarden faster.

 

Rendergarden is a workaround for the current problem= that AE can=E2=80=99t max out of machine right now but does not address th= is actual problem at all in any form or fashion and you can do the same thi= ng some command line or other AE engine renders.

 

Stephen

From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:29 PM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Uservoice feedback website - Top post - Full Progr= am. Mutli-Threaded Support

 

Um . . . I don=E2=80=99t get it. If RenderGarden can= do it =E2=80=93 and I=E2=80=99m a devoted fan =E2=80=93 why can=E2=80=99t = Adobe? So perhaps it=E2=80=99s not integrated as well as one might like, bu= t you don=E2=80=99t have to leave AE to use it and the result is seamless. = It runs in the background, uses as many cores as you like, can work across machines, and = can save huge amounts of time.

 

What am I missing?

 

 

Jonathan Penzner

Sundance/Realtime

 



On Oct 18, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Gordon Mah <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:<= o:p>

 

Part of the rationale for going to a subscriptio= n model was that it would loosen the rules publicly traded companies need t= o adhere to.  You can=E2=80=99t use that excuse any more, Adobe.

 

Break plugins?  We can run a previous versi= on in parallel, no?  Sure multi-threaded is tough, but I=E2=80=99d ven= ture that 32-to-64 bit was tougher.  I=E2=80=99d gladly wait 2 yrs w/o= ut new features if we knew major core updates were coming.

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