From: "Warren Heaton" Received: from pv38p41im-ztdg02061201.me.com ([17.133.179.23] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7177181 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:15:52 +0200 Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.pv38p41im-ztdg02061201.me.com by pv38p41im-ztdg02061201.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.2.20180531 64bit (built May 31 2018)) id <0PGY00A00AHSPK00@pv38p41im-ztdg02061201.me.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:27:47 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=04042017; t=1540128467; bh=719h/tkcl7s6CmTo/q95oDkWKhX9gdBTNLxKFHbdb/M=; h=From:Content-type:MIME-version:Date:Subject:Message-id:To; b=SE24aoqoVrzdI+9AZbDqMtiOQYeyGtta21dkINwaGfUH3Cp5vyuaeLGyIQloi2sra FILdYUzpKhh6eibPfPV3GzFPD0JYx8mGZefVNnk+yX9TtgV5qbcV2SwQOPmZwV6o7L npGKMfFwWVyLfjhvZQ5AX1Hiv7dQ1DUBjzZW5G8tI9LbdWwKZ7uKwZHE1peKIPJC6M DchdpIRspCT/kfBQ3J0jYiqpdUqzzewmhMjrG8V41jdmL5o5N/ON11/pFJgS0zHvLC 3Ma9HcvmkqqgKYEtC1IKNuCb3jpnppsS1RxfkZHhrmJGDV6uU8LAJ9wjCs6Eg2VoWU aBNDeMpV64j0w== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by pv38p41im-ztdg02061201.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.2.20180531 64bit (built May 31 2018)) with ESMTPSA id <0PGY00GBYAQ9I130@pv38p41im-ztdg02061201.me.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:27:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1810210127 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2018-10-20_08:,, signatures=0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BE359487-D8BB-4C01-8B6A-3B0FE49E9DDD Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 06:27:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option Message-id: <8796834B-141F-4068-B445-D37828B8FEB6@me.com> References: In-reply-to: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16A404) --Apple-Mail-BE359487-D8BB-4C01-8B6A-3B0FE49E9DDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Take a look AfterCodecs for rendering to ProRes on Windows: https://aescript= s.com/aftercodecs/ Cineform should open inside the Adobe video and audio applications, but requ= ire conversion at the OS level. Your next CODEC to try would be DNxHD, but I am pretty sure that it=E2=80=99= s going to present the same playback issues as Cineform under macOS. With the Apple=E2=80=99s switch from QuickTime as the system driver for time= based media to AV Foundation Frameworks, we=E2=80=99re left with just Apple= ProRes and h264/h265.=20 If you=E2=80=99re interested in learning more details, the PDF from session 6= 06 of the 2013 Apple Developers conference is certainly worth reviewing: htt= p://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2013/606xdx2xbp31zp28fdov8p0b6d/606/6= 06.pdf Page 29 and 30 pertain directly to your question, but you should be able to f= ind the video recording of the session which has more explanation.=20 This Adobe support page covers which CODECs are now supported at the applica= tion level: https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/quicktime7-support-dro= pped.html (The HAP CODEC was just added with CC2019.) -Warren=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 21, 2018, at 4:07 AM, Anders Sundstedt wr= ote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I work entirely on PC. >=20 > If I received QuickTime ProRes 4444 mov files, since Adobe Media Encoder d= oes not export to ProRes 4444 at least not in Windows/PC, what is a format o= f equal quality and smaller that uncompressed, that (any) Mac person/editor w= ould be able to accept as a delivery format? >=20 > I tried for example GoPro CineForm but doesn't open in QuickTime on their M= ac. >=20 > I asked them what they can accept but in the meantime, if you are a Mac ed= itor what would be acceptable? >=20 > (uncompressed MOV QuickTime are huge so not good) >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Anders --Apple-Mail-BE359487-D8BB-4C01-8B6A-3B0FE49E9DDD Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Take a look AfterCodecs for rendering to ProRes on Windo= ws: https://aescripts.co= m/aftercodecs/

Cineform should open inside th= e Adobe video and audio applications, but require conversion at the OS level= .

Your next CODEC to try would be DNxHD, but I am pretty s= ure that it=E2=80=99s going to present the same playback issues as Cineform u= nder macOS.

With the Apple=E2=80=99s switch from Quic= kTime as the system driver for time based media to AV Foundation Frameworks,= we=E2=80=99re left with just Apple ProRes and h264/h265. 
If you=E2=80=99re interested in learning more details, the PDF f= rom session 606 of the 2013 Apple Developers conference is certainly worth r= eviewing: http://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/ww= dc/2013/606xdx2xbp31zp28fdov8p0b6d/606/606.pdf

= Page 29 and 30 pertain directly to your question, but you should be able to find the video rec= ording of the session which has more explanation. 
This Adobe support page covers which CODECs are now supported at= the application level: https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/m= ulti/quicktime7-support-dropped.html

(The HAP C= ODEC was just added with CC2019.)




-Warren 


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Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2018, at 4= :07 AM, Anders Sundstedt <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi,


I work entirely on PC.


If I received QuickTime ProRes 444= 4 mov files, since Adobe Media Encoder does not export to ProRes 4444 at lea= st not in Windows/PC, what is a format of equal quality and smaller that unc= ompressed, that (any) Mac person/editor would be able to accept as a delivery format?


I tried for example GoPro CineForm= but doesn't open in QuickTime on their Mac.


I asked them what they can accept b= ut in the meantime, if you are a Mac editor what would be acceptable?


(uncompressed MOV QuickTime are hu= ge so not good)


Cheers


Anders

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