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Buying all seems very overkill. I wish they came included both AME and AE v= ersion. Thanks Anders ________________________________ From: After Effects Mail List on behalf of Robert= Kjettrup Sent: 21 October 2018 16:18 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option I also use AfterCodec all the time for client deliveries that want Prores. Just remember to only use the Prores444 flavor since the lower quality 422 = versions (HQ, Normal, Proxy) can't be guaranteed to keep color consistent i= n other apps than Adobe. With Prores4444 you will also get a good "proxy" format to use for intermed= iate renders that accept an alpha, any arbitrary dimensions and a reasonabl= e compression. Another reason to get AfterCodec is that you will get direct mp4 output via= the Render Queue in AE for easier quick client review files, and it's x264= based so you get a Constant Quality mode that is missing in the Main Conce= pt h264 codec used by Adobe in AME and Premiere. Robert s=F8n. 21. okt. 2018 15.55 skrev Anders Sundstedt >: Hi, And how do I know they will be able to read the ProRes 4444 files created b= y AfterCodecs? I mean this is one small project from a single client, so $88 for a single = delivery is a bit harsh, as I don't expect any more uses for it. (I don't usually do work that is for a delivery format as I tend to complet= e all projects myself) Basically it's because it's not for animation is for film for once. If I knew for sure there would be no issues with the AfterCodecs on their s= ide on delivery back, I would be tempted for sure to still buy it. Thanks, Anders ________________________________ From: After Effects Mail List > on behalf of Greg Balint > Sent: 21 October 2018 14:30 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option Just give them ProRes 4444 back, with AfterCodecs. I've been a huge fan of it and use it daily. Probably the most value I've e= ver gotten out of a 3rd party purchase. https://aescripts.com/aftercodecs/ On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 7:08 AM Anders Sundstedt > wrote: Hi, I work entirely on PC. If I received QuickTime ProRes 4444 mov files, since Adobe Media Encoder do= es not export to ProRes 4444 at least not in Windows/PC, what is a format o= f equal quality and smaller that uncompressed, that (any) Mac person/editor= would be able to accept as a delivery format? I tried for example GoPro CineForm but doesn't open in QuickTime on their M= ac. I asked them what they can accept but in the meantime, if you are a Mac edi= tor what would be acceptable? (uncompressed MOV QuickTime are huge so not good) Cheers Anders --_000_HE1P190MB0412C2044966FACE5B6A0E70A2F40HE1P190MB0412EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you guys for the info about= AfterCodec and ProRes etc.


A question, so I can continue wor= king in AE, would it not be best to get the AME flavor of AfterCodec instea= d of the AE one?


Buying all seems very overkill. I= wish they came included both AME and AE version.


Thanks


Anders



From: After Effects Mail = List <AE-List@media-motion.tv> on behalf of Robert Kjettrup <AE-Li= st@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 21 October 2018 16:18
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option
 
I also use AfterCodec all the time for client deliveries = that want Prores. 
Just remember to only use the Prores444 flavor since the = lower quality 422 versions (HQ, Normal, Proxy) can't be guaranteed to keep = color consistent in other apps than Adobe. 

With Prores4444 you will also get a good "proxy"= ; format to use for intermediate renders that accept an alpha, any arbitrar= y dimensions and a reasonable compression. 

Another reason to get AfterCodec is that you will get dir= ect mp4 output via the Render Queue in AE for easier quick client review fi= les, and it's x264 based so you get a Constant Quality mode that is missing= in the Main Concept h264 codec used by Adobe in AME and Premiere.

Robert 

s=F8n. 21. okt. 2018 15.55 skrev Anders Sundstedt <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:

Hi,


And how do I know they will be a= ble to read the ProRes 4444 files created by AfterCodecs?


I mean this is one small project= from a single client, so $88 for a single delivery is a bit harsh, as I do= n't expect any more uses for it.


(I don't usually do work that is= for a delivery format as I tend to complete all projects myself)


Basically it's because it's not = for animation is for film for once.


If I knew for sure there would b= e no issues with the AfterCodecs on their side on delivery back, I would be= tempted for sure to still buy it.


Thanks,


Anders



From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@medi= a-motion.tv> on behalf of Greg Balint <AE-List@media-motion.tv&= gt;
Sent: 21 October 2018 14:30
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option
 
Just give them ProRes 4444 back, with AfterCodecs. 

I've been a huge fan of it and use it daily. Probably the= most value I've ever gotten out of a 3rd party purchase. 




On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 7:08 AM Anders Sundstedt <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi,


I work entirely on PC.


If I received QuickTime ProRes 4= 444 mov files, since Adobe Media Encoder does not export to ProRes 4444 at = least not in Windows/PC, what is a format of equal quality and smaller that= uncompressed, that (any) Mac person/editor would be able to accept as a delivery format?


I tried for example GoPro CineFo= rm but doesn't open in QuickTime on their Mac.


I asked them what they can accep= t but in the meantime, if you are a Mac editor what would be acceptable?


(uncompressed MOV QuickTime are = huge so not good)


Cheers


Anders

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