From: "Greg Balint" Received: from mail-wm1-f54.google.com ([209.85.128.54] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7177805 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:11:08 +0200 Received: by mail-wm1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 193-v6so10540442wme.3 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:23:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xtKoqgqe5rEP0BtBzfj26DstjTARhx3PX480iKqsQDg=; b=fleKFXKAmPJ4Az98GdBDPBn9sXs9e2GifZmirLPp6V0trme1Ev5TgEGLRO/DWmqwVU wsjhhPzYQJJzv8aSJMQCMI3mylnSSzTtAvjuStppkuBs0l/38ivYoqlKGB80xcHvJ7jV 7gPlb2kE1HlMrd01HHdXDrIEaez1nYgnVdtUUAsZZqtUDCKrtk2pIFJREu2lzvZ4jZev vatLEGDQ2UA/NlPtpQWIJ9hcETe2u6cJCjWrp9IXQQIH/+KZux31Qj289AzCQIpHvohV P+Cvw5sBYp79PZhUfvqCXakLGdElPZfsfAGNO+BGLGmC9OcIjYjg7Twqh/bvp6RoKDmv bE5g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=xtKoqgqe5rEP0BtBzfj26DstjTARhx3PX480iKqsQDg=; b=mmPO5dM/1A7fweMcs8Lx6QAkQqwrYKacZ0gF1+sn5VbBllwd2j7Z1q+0SmfMKysMCZ gUTVU+Rxo4AlgTwGHP9RcGpWxYOJSJpSzrz8yr4df60e3uhbEKLfwk1WG0wo/ERobr4x jPIEeJC9f56OLWyvsK4zc2urwWdsm+d0Pgb2URNDfabF+pmLImYw37l0oZPkO9g7kz3p AU2nYgYxW7SCtOIs4HSKFZgFkJhwVxbOKSoYbhqv4dZR+komYpqlar+uhnU35krLc1gK w0UZ63t+x9iscnV0cpeVkgxS+9ZXqpZ8zzWMlUuBgMj0GuRXO7Jue1Wj52Gi5TebqH3V KtSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogpCQGDj4FY0gZGlkjA/NSONYsjytB3A+Gn1Wc6nMC6YzJ9rqCJ ke6+oYNdd8EFsHqtIGZXn2KV4V6D7DQZ8q24s9ABvg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61ZbYIKFsUIDGi0z5t3b/xMinY7z5qqxPDEJ853brZO6ugODrnVGu+FksR09bfy+Ir28KnXuUiZ6d8/6X8yWe4= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:b90c:: with SMTP id j12-v6mr16847902wmf.32.1540218186425; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:23:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:22:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e0e93e0578d1fd5b" --000000000000e0e93e0578d1fd5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's my take. It all really depends on your workflow and what you do in your day to day. Regarding buying a certain version, I guess it all depends on how much you care about AME or if you're using Premiere often. Personally I got the AE version because I try to avoid AME unless I'm just using it to batch convert stuff. I only tend to use Premiere as an intermediary tool to work with client provided sequences and bring them into AE eventually. In most cases I want to stay in AE and keep my render queue filled with render data for that project as well. If you feel you'll ever be exporting from premiere a lot, or batch converting clips to ProRes or something, AME might be the way to go, but the advantage of having it all directly in AE outweighs everything for me. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 5:20 AM Anders Sundstedt wrote: > Thank you guys for the info about AfterCodec and ProRes etc. > > > A question, so I can continue working in AE, would it not be best to get > the AME flavor of AfterCodec instead of the AE one? > > > Buying all seems very overkill. I wish they came included both AME and AE > version. > > > Thanks > > > Anders > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* After Effects Mail List on behalf of > Robert Kjettrup > *Sent:* 21 October 2018 16:18 > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option > > I also use AfterCodec all the time for client deliveries that want > Prores. > Just remember to only use the Prores444 flavor since the lower quality 42= 2 > versions (HQ, Normal, Proxy) can't be guaranteed to keep color consistent > in other apps than Adobe. > > With Prores4444 you will also get a good "proxy" format to use for > intermediate renders that accept an alpha, any arbitrary dimensions and a > reasonable compression. > > Another reason to get AfterCodec is that you will get direct mp4 output > via the Render Queue in AE for easier quick client review files, and it's > x264 based so you get a Constant Quality mode that is missing in the Main > Concept h264 codec used by Adobe in AME and Premiere. > > Robert > > s=C3=B8n. 21. okt. 2018 15.55 skrev Anders Sundstedt : > > Hi, > > > And how do I know they will be able to read the ProRes 4444 files created > by AfterCodecs? > > > I mean this is one small project from a single client, so $88 for a singl= e > delivery is a bit harsh, as I don't expect any more uses for it. > > > (I don't usually do work that is for a delivery format as I tend to > complete all projects myself) > > > Basically it's because it's not for animation is for film for once. > > > If I knew for sure there would be no issues with the AfterCodecs on their > side on delivery back, I would be tempted for sure to still buy it. > > > Thanks, > > > Anders > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* After Effects Mail List on behalf of > Greg Balint > *Sent:* 21 October 2018 14:30 > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option > > Just give them ProRes 4444 back, with AfterCodecs. > > I've been a huge fan of it and use it daily. Probably the most value I've > ever gotten out of a 3rd party purchase. > > https://aescripts.com/aftercodecs/ > > > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 7:08 AM Anders Sundstedt > wrote: > > Hi, > > > I work entirely on PC. > > > If I received QuickTime ProRes 4444 mov files, since Adobe Media Encoder > does not export to ProRes 4444 at least not in Windows/PC, what is a form= at > of equal quality and smaller that uncompressed, that (any) Mac > person/editor would be able to accept as a delivery format? > > > I tried for example GoPro CineForm but doesn't open in QuickTime on their > Mac. > > > I asked them what they can accept but in the meantime, if you are a Mac > editor what would be acceptable? > > > (uncompressed MOV QuickTime are huge so not good) > > > Cheers > > > Anders > > --000000000000e0e93e0578d1fd5b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's my take. It all really depends on your workflo= w and what you do in your day to day.=C2=A0

Regarding buying a certain version, I guess it all depends on= how much you care about AME or if you're using Premiere often.

Personally I got the AE version becau= se I try to avoid AME unless I'm just using it to batch convert stuff. = I only tend to use Premiere as an intermediary tool to work with client pro= vided sequences and bring them into AE eventually.=C2=A0 In most cases I wa= nt to stay in AE and keep my render queue filled with render data for that = project as well.

If you = feel you'll ever be exporting from premiere a lot, or batch converting = clips to ProRes or something, AME might be the way to go, but the advantage= of having it all directly in AE outweighs everything for me.=C2=A0

On Mon, Oct 22, 2= 018, 5:20 AM Anders Sundstedt <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrot= e:

Thank you guys for the info about= AfterCodec and ProRes etc.


A question, so I can continue wor= king in AE, would it not be best to get the AME flavor of AfterCodec instea= d of the AE one?


Buying all seems very overkill. I= wish they came included both AME and AE version.


Thanks


Anders



From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv> on behalf of Robert Kjettrup <AE-= List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: 21 October 2018 16:18
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option
=C2=A0
I also use AfterCodec all the time for client deliveries = that want Prores.=C2=A0
Just remember to only use the Prores444 flavor since the = lower quality 422 versions (HQ, Normal, Proxy) can't be guaranteed to k= eep color consistent in other apps than Adobe.=C2=A0

With Prores4444 you will also get a good "proxy"= ; format to use for intermediate renders that accept an alpha, any arbitrar= y dimensions and a reasonable compression.=C2=A0

Another reason to get AfterCodec is that you will get dir= ect mp4 output via the Render Queue in AE for easier quick client review fi= les, and it's x264 based so you get a Constant Quality mode that is mis= sing in the Main Concept h264 codec used by Adobe in AME and Premiere.

Robert=C2=A0

s=C3=B8n. 21. okt. 2018 15.55 skrev Anders Sundstedt <<= a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer nore= ferrer noreferrer" id=3D"m_6378504586504725611m_-1407083861963224415LPlnk70= 8626" class=3D"m_6378504586504725611m_-1407083861963224415OWAAutoLink" targ= et=3D"_blank">AE-List@media-motion.tv>:

Hi,


And how do I know they will be ab= le to read the ProRes 4444 files created by AfterCodecs?


I mean this is one small project = from a single client, so $88 for a single delivery is a bit harsh, as I don= 't expect any more uses for it.


(I don't usually do work that= is for a delivery format as I tend to complete all projects myself)


Basically it's because it'= ;s not for animation is for film for once.


If I knew for sure there would be= no issues with the AfterCodecs on their side on delivery back, I would be = tempted for sure to still buy it.


Thanks,


Anders



From: After Effects Mail List <AE-Li= st@media-motion.tv> on behalf of Greg Balint <AE-List@media-motio= n.tv>
Sent: 21 October 2018 14:30
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option
=C2=A0
Just give them ProRes 4444 back, with AfterCodecs.=C2=A0

I've been a huge fan of it and use it daily. Probably= the most value I've ever gotten out of a 3rd party purchase.=C2=A0




On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 7:08 AM Anders Sundstedt <AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv> wrote:

Hi,


I work entirely on PC.


If I received QuickTime ProRes 44= 44 mov files, since Adobe Media Encoder does not export to ProRes 4444 at l= east not in Windows/PC, what is a format of equal quality and smaller that = uncompressed, that (any) Mac person/editor would be able to accept as a delivery format?


I tried for example GoPro CineFor= m but doesn't open in QuickTime on their Mac.


I asked them what they can accept= but in the meantime, if you are a Mac editor what would be acceptable?


(uncompressed MOV QuickTime are h= uge so not good)


Cheers


Anders

--000000000000e0e93e0578d1fd5b--