From: "Richard Green" Received: from n1nlsmtp02.shr.prod.ams1.secureserver.net ([188.121.43.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7177840 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:39:54 +0200 Received: from n1plcpnl0050.prod.ams1.secureserver.net ([46.252.205.176]) by : HOSTING RELAY : with ESMTP id EcTkg06Td5QKlEcTkg7tEv; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:50:52 -0700 Received: from [85.255.236.28] (port=62867 helo=[10.152.23.85]) by n1plcpnl0050.prod.ams1.secureserver.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gEcTk-00365q-8w for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:50:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: X-Referenced-Uid: 48325 Thread-Topic: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option User-Agent: Android X-Is-Generated-Message-Id: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----G2RILF9G9MCJYQUA87MCUIGF4K0K46" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:21:57 +0100 To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - n1plcpnl0050.prod.ams1.secureserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - loopcorp.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: n1plcpnl0050.prod.ams1.secureserver.net: authenticated_id: rich@loopcorp.com X-Authenticated-Sender: n1plcpnl0050.prod.ams1.secureserver.net: rich@loopcorp.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfN0GZSfp5BmpFinODk0PDFuatX5JzaZjU/DtTsFmv28cwOGNE6jMzcUZVCe4gKjTSn/z7p00DvZ81rIk4/999F+vdWarNEIRuA53FNT+o/eVpB7i2hZS sfruvyK9wQ62AiGDm3DIvtQFj7EUDho9C8XoM30zMzC0sn9FDlCOIbt56NNEEG6oep8vCgw49qdIyncMp+s8yrp8HbhfMz1M6/E= ------G2RILF9G9MCJYQUA87MCUIGF4K0K46 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Ah, I bought the full version pretty promptly after trying it=2E Sorry, I h= adn't realised the free version couldn't do ProRes=2E Interesting about sp= eed of premiere encoding, I've never heard that=2E =E2=81=A3--- Cheers Ri= ch www=2Eloopcorp=2Ecom Sent from BlueMail =E2=80=8B On 22 Oct 2018, 15:= 18, at 15:18, Teddy Gage wrote: >Couple points = here: > >- I would not buy Aftercodecs for AME, I'd buy it for premiere or = AME >instead=2E The thing is, you might be able to keep working theoretical= ly, >however I've seen Aftercodecs usually pegs the CPU at 100% - meaning >= you're >likely going to crash the system or at a minimum it'll be very very= >slow=2E >Also, if you buy it for Premiere, you can export a lossless >int= ermediate >from AE and then transcode in Premiere in the BG=2E This is my p= referred >workflow anyway, since the premiere export is the fastest (I've t= ested >them >all) >- Fusion is fantastic, and I use it a lot, however there= are a few >things >to consider >- Fusion's export is not meant for batchin= g shots really, it can be a >headache with more than a few shots at a time= =2E >- Fusion ProRes export is restricted to Fusion pro studio standalone >= which >is still $300=2E I think it's 100% worth it, however might not be if= all >you >need is prores=2E Check out Scratch pro Player instead >- the au= dio workflow in Fusion is likewise annoying - need to manually >add >audio = tracks per shot, shots do not come in with audio=2E this alone >makes it >n= ot great as a transcoder=2E If only Resolve exported prores!! it has the >b= est transcoding workflow of any app > >On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:39 AM Rich= ard Green >wrote: > >> If it=E2=80=99s a one of= f and you don=E2=80=99t want to spend, download blackmagic >fusion >> (now = part of Resolve)=2E That exports to ProRes even on PC=2E >> >> =E2=80=94 >>= Cheers >> Rich >> >> http://www=2Eloopcorp=2Ecom >> >> > On 22 Oct 2018, a= t 10:19, Anders Sundstedt > >> wrote: >> > >> > = Thank you guys for the info about AfterCodec and ProRes etc=2E >> > >> > A = question, so I can continue working in AE, would it not be best >to get >> = the AME flavor of AfterCodec instead of the AE one? >> > >> > Buying all se= ems very overkill=2E I wish they came included both AME >and >> AE version= =2E >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Anders >> > >> > >> > From: After Effects Ma= il List on behalf >of >> Robert Kjettrup >> > Sent: 21 October 2018 16:18 >> > To: After Effec= ts Mail List >> > Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option >> > >> > I= also use AfterCodec all the time for client deliveries that want >> Prores= =2E >> > Just remember to only use the Prores444 flavor since the lower >qu= ality >> 422 versions (HQ, Normal, Proxy) can't be guaranteed to keep color= >> consistent in other apps than Adobe=2E >> > >> > With Prores4444 you wi= ll also get a good "proxy" format to use for >> intermediate renders that a= ccept an alpha, any arbitrary dimensions >and a >> reasonable compression= =2E >> > >> > Another reason to get AfterCodec is that you will get direct = mp4 >output >> via the Render Queue in AE for easier quick client review fi= les, and >it's >> x264 based so you get a Constant Quality mode that is mis= sing in the >Main >> Concept h264 codec used by Adobe in AME and Premiere= =2E >> > >> > Robert >> > >> > s=C3=B8n=2E 21=2E okt=2E 2018 15=2E55 skrev = Anders Sundstedt >> >: >> > Hi, >> > >> > And h= ow do I know they will be able to read the ProRes 4444 files >> created by = AfterCodecs? >> > >> > I mean this is one small project from a single clien= t, so $88 for a >> single delivery is a bit harsh, as I don't expect any mo= re uses for >it=2E >> > >> > (I don't usually do work that is for a deliver= y format as I tend to >> complete all projects myself) >> > >> > Basically = it's because it's not for animation is for film for once=2E >> > >> > If I = knew for sure there would be no issues with the AfterCodecs on >> their sid= e on delivery back, I would be tempted for sure to still buy >it=2E >> > >>= > Thanks, >> > >> > Anders >> > >> > >> > From: After Effects Mail List on behalf >of >> Greg Balint >> > Sent: 21 October 2018 14:30 >> > To: After Effects Mail List >= > > Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option >> > >> > Just give them = ProRes 4444 back, with AfterCodecs=2E >> > >> > I've been a huge fan of it = and use it daily=2E Probably the most >value >> I've ever gotten out of a 3= rd party purchase=2E >> > >> > https://aescripts=2Ecom/aftercodecs/ >> > >>= > >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 7:08 AM Anders Sundstedt > >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I work entirely on PC=2E >> > >>= > If I received QuickTime ProRes 4444 mov files, since Adobe Media >Encode= r >> does not export to ProRes 4444 at least not in Windows/PC, what is a >= format >> of equal quality and smaller that uncompressed, that (any) Mac >>= person/editor would be able to accept as a delivery format? >> > >> > I tr= ied for example GoPro CineForm but doesn't open in QuickTime on >> their Ma= c=2E >> > >> > I asked them what they can accept but in the meantime, if yo= u are a >Mac >> editor what would be acceptable? >> > >> > (uncompressed MO= V QuickTime are huge so not good) >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Anders >> >> >= > +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > >-- >_____________________________ >Teddy Gage = >President >Shotgun Inc=2E >360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX >SHOTGUNPOST=2ECOM >BKLY= N NY 11215 ------G2RILF9G9MCJYQUA87MCUIGF4K0K46 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah, I bought the full version pr= etty promptly after trying it=2E Sorry, I hadn't realised the free version = couldn't do ProRes=2E

Interesting about spe= ed of premiere encoding, I've never heard that=2E

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Cheers
Rich
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On = 22 Oct 2018, at 15:18, Teddy Gage <ae-list@media-motion=2Etv> wrote:
Couple= points here: 

- I would not buy Aftercodecs for AM= E, I'd buy it for premiere or AME instead=2E The thing is, you might be abl= e to keep working theoretically, however I've seen Aftercodecs usually pegs= the CPU at 100% - meaning you're likely going to crash the system or at a = minimum it'll be very very slow=2E Also, if you buy it for Premiere, you ca= n export a lossless intermediate from AE and then transcode in Premiere in = the BG=2E This is my preferred workflow anyway, since the premiere export i= s the fastest (I've tested them all)
- Fusion is fantastic, and I= use it a lot, however there are a few things to consider
- Fusio= n's export is not meant for batching shots really, it can be a headache wit= h more than a few shots at a time=2E 
- Fusion ProRes export= is restricted to Fusion pro studio standalone which is still $300=2E I thi= nk it's 100% worth it, however might not be if all you need is prores=2E Ch= eck out Scratch pro Player instead
- the audio workflow in Fusion= is likewise annoying - need to manually add audio tracks per shot, shots d= o not come in with audio=2E this alone makes it not great as a transcoder= =2E If only Resolve exported prores!! it has the best transcoding workflow = of any app

On Mo= n, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:39 AM Richard Green <AE-List@media-motion=2Etv> wrote:
If it=E2=80=99s a one off and you don=E2=80=99t want= to spend, download blackmagic fusion (now part of Resolve)=2E That exports= to ProRes even on PC=2E

=E2=80=94
Cheers
Rich

= http://www=2Eloopcorp=2Ecom

> On 22 Oct 2018, at 10:19, And= ers Sundstedt <AE-List@media-motion=2Etv> wrote:
>
> Thank you= guys for the info about AfterCodec and ProRes etc=2E
>
> A = question, so I can continue working in AE, would it not be best to get the = AME flavor of AfterCodec instead of the AE one?
>
> Buying a= ll seems very overkill=2E I wish they came included both AME and AE version= =2E
>
> Thanks
>
> Anders
>
> =
> From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion=2Etv> on behalf= of Robert Kjettrup <AE-List@media-motion=2Etv>
> Sent: 21 October 201= 8 16:18
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] PC-= >Mac Video Format Option
> 
> I also use AfterCodec = all the time for client deliveries that want Prores=2E
> Just remem= ber to only use the Prores444 flavor since the lower quality 422 versions (= HQ, Normal, Proxy) can't be guaranteed to keep color consistent in other ap= ps than Adobe=2E
>
> With Prores4444 you will also get a go= od "proxy" format to use for intermediate renders that accept an alpha, any= arbitrary dimensions and a reasonable compression=2E
>
> A= nother reason to get AfterCodec is that you will get direct mp4 output via = the Render Queue in AE for easier quick client review files, and it's x264 = based so you get a Constant Quality mode that is missing in the Main Concep= t h264 codec used by Adobe in AME and Premiere=2E
>
> Robert=
>
> s=C3=B8n=2E 21=2E okt=2E 2018 15=2E55 skrev Anders Sun= dstedt <A= E-List@media-motion=2Etv>:
> Hi,
>
> And how d= o I know they will be able to read the ProRes 4444 files created by AfterCo= decs?
>
> I mean this is one small project from a single cli= ent, so $88 for a single delivery is a bit harsh, as I don't expect any mor= e uses for it=2E
>
> (I don't usually do work that is for a = delivery format as I tend to complete all projects myself)
>
&g= t; Basically it's because it's not for animation is for film for once=2E >
> If I knew for sure there would be no issues with the After= Codecs on their side on delivery back, I would be tempted for sure to still= buy it=2E
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anders
> >
> From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion=2Etv> o= n behalf of Greg Balint <AE-List@media-motion=2Etv>
> Sent: 21 October= 2018 14:30
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE]= PC->Mac Video Format Option
> 
> Just give them Pro= Res 4444 back, with AfterCodecs=2E
>
> I've been a huge fan= of it and use it daily=2E Probably the most value I've ever gotten out of = a 3rd party purchase=2E
>
> https://aescripts=2E= com/aftercodecs/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 21,= 2018, 7:08 AM Anders Sundstedt <AE-List@media-motion=2Etv> wrote:
> = Hi,
>
> I work entirely on PC=2E
>
> If I rec= eived QuickTime ProRes 4444 mov files, since Adobe Media Encoder does not e= xport to ProRes 4444 at least not in Windows/PC, what is a format of equal = quality and smaller that uncompressed, that (any) Mac person/editor would b= e able to accept as a delivery format?
>
> I tried for examp= le GoPro CineForm but doesn't open in QuickTime on their Mac=2E
> > I asked them what they can accept but in the meantime, if you are a= Mac editor what would be acceptable?
>
> (uncompressed MOV = QuickTime are huge so not good)
>
> Cheers
>
>= ; Anders


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