From: "Teddy Gage" Received: from mail-oi1-f181.google.com ([209.85.167.181] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7178237 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 23:20:23 +0200 Received: by mail-oi1-f181.google.com with SMTP id k64-v6so33471797oia.13 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=58ZDucv8OheH8DKKE2l/20RI23aQX+4OIg+9tUYORio=; b=teGkjgd1QZMSpCC/OHfg/kmoZHC2wQuoJIabKAFUxdsrf8LX87CwsBszDp4IE9wF1W d3Kf+7M1yx/aBQ/IYgi6l2E2xiDmeLPzPUKxb+dzBD7MndyBvHsdGXITW6A9yLuw99Tu HByafBEchD5LpTw3HD3F50O1hpBJu5xoV4112HwG3O7aMdRzIEIoonGi2J3WD58X/kO9 EEDLB1g91QO6bZJsOYIMFhNRYos/eCGxEgj73Oi3ho4P4X4sTK2yYqte6aJ8rkbW9+jv JJG2ovWrd1pXp+aF8qiWf327Xt3mBZ/Z0AbgMX31GJYwrzOo7unWw6a+8vv0EMWRqEkl de3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=58ZDucv8OheH8DKKE2l/20RI23aQX+4OIg+9tUYORio=; b=Ofgw866jGVKOXBDQKUEvoDcEs5d3Rr1ZbuMC7Q6deyvAiBFtEnt9Pgo35Y2c+2ooOQ ZYq67kj4v5aLISjj6MYDchcBQhChsgJpC7VUGRcY5JMA7SGygdTm5tSB7O2t8Hr+JU/6 AmMV3A6pPNp9ptStCYmdXPNMhfiielxC01JeEVewn9X4JZfkf46dyMjh1d9GAcjZBiRz aJtllhQcxXIk5BBH6Jg0GqeMWRMXPziH8lHAOAZVCPKwvE2ZjfSFHUA32U2sQ7dL+tpD YcAztGJ12KHdJmNMNzWzvvmr5AHQB2+NCT7VRhekn3h4gwWe4pKGC5Jm2wkkVd9XsYAe h+9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogwnFtt2e3hljbvjNgLD1fraKQP+//JaEKDmTWZVVX8ZhCvImk9 jsU+WXhFCCJTWR3uoqAEyzfkVVnXqdusqJcxZiFtog== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63HB5LG/IS1OCg7Zo6uePe2RI3/x5qUJ/7hZ+15hYLGKLtmRu1K1ckD88Uby2QugQ5+Eo8cpu+5wJrkHa6OxR0= X-Received: by 2002:aca:ea57:: with SMTP id i84-v6mr23666826oih.133.1540243941173; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:32:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:32:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] PC->Mac Video Format Option To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fb2e480578d7fc37" --000000000000fb2e480578d7fc37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually I=E2=80=99d avoid DNxHR 4444 if you can, there are color space iss= ues reading it in in premiere. Black levels can be interpreted incorrectly, especially with Resolve exports. I=E2=80=99ve found exporting HQX 10 bit in= stead solves these issues. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:59 PM Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > Robert, > > Ok, so I was right the first time. :) I should just start rendering usin= g > DNxHR. > > I am usually rendering from either AE or Premiere. > > Funny thing is, as many times as people say AE is not an editor (which it > is not), I often find myself doing anything 2 minutes or less or so right > in AE anyway. > > Eric > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:54 PM Robert Kjettrup > wrote: > >> DNxHD should probably be considered a legacy codec by now. >> if you work with Avid facilities it might be an issue if they are on an >> older Avid MC that doesnt support DNxHR yet, and some Avids are kept at >> very old versions for very long. >> But it should normally be a non-issue and just use DNxHR, its also way >> easier to figure out what setting to use since Avid reduce it as Prores = to >> a few flavors and not keep the framerate and dimensions. >> most of the flavour are 8bit though (another Avid legacy issue) so make >> sure to use the HQX or 444 versions that are 10 or 12bit >> >> >> Den man. 22. okt. 2018 kl. 21.41 skrev Steve Oakley < >> AE-List@media-motion.tv>: >> >>> if you need to deliver non-HD res images, yes. also better alpha ch on >>> some versions of it >>> >>> S >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Guess I simply haven't rendered using it. Will use it now. I presume >>> this should be used over DNxHD? >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:33 PM Steve Oakley >>> wrote: >>> >>>> DNxHR is built into adobe apps, resolve / fusion. QT32 is dead. >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Do you have a download link for this DNxHR? I have been using DNxHD >>>> for several years. >>>> >>>> I found this link: >>>> http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/download/Avid-QuickTime-Codec= s-LE >>>> >>>> This version: Codecs LE_2.7.3_Win >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:33 PM Steve Oakley >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> DNxHD is limited to fixed HD res size images. feed it non HD size >>>>> frames and they are scaled to fit the full raster. really ugly and st= upid >>>>> but that happens because it was a hardware based codec.=E2=80=99 >>>>> >>>>> DNxHR works with any res. >>>>> >>>>> they work fine on win, OS X. no playback problems, its basically avid= s >>>>> ver of prores with similar data rates and generational performance. >>>>> >>>>> I=E2=80=99ve used it also as a record format on atomos products with = excellent >>>>> results and moved media between PP / AE / Resolve with out concern or >>>>> thought. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 7:08 AM Anders Sundstedt < >>>>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>>>> > Hi, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I work entirely on PC. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > If I received QuickTime ProRes 4444 mov files, since Adobe Media >>>>>>> Encoder does not export to ProRes 4444 at least not in Windows/PC, = what is >>>>>>> a format of equal quality and smaller that uncompressed, that (any)= Mac >>>>>>> person/editor would be able to accept as a delivery format? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I tried for example GoPro CineForm but doesn't open in QuickTime >>>>>>> on their Mac. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I asked them what they can accept but in the meantime, if you are >>>>>>> a Mac editor what would be acceptable? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > (uncompressed MOV QuickTime are huge so not good) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Cheers >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Anders >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _____________________________ >>>>>> Teddy Gage >>>>>> President >>>>>> Shotgun Inc. >>>>>> 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX >>>>>> SHOTGUNPOST.COM >>>>>> BKLYN NY 11215 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >>>> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirke= ric >>>> IMDB: >>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk >>> Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirker= ic >>> IMDB: >>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * >>> >>> >>> >>> > > -- > > > *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk ProductionsVFX for Kirk > Productions443.206.1347www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirkeric > IMDB: > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ = * > > --=20 _____________________________ Teddy Gage President Shotgun Inc. 360 VR | MOGRAPH | VFX SHOTGUNPOST.COM BKLYN NY 11215 --000000000000fb2e480578d7fc37 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Actually I=E2=80=99d avoid DNxHR 4444 if you can, th= ere are color space issues reading it in in premiere. Black levels can be i= nterpreted incorrectly, especially with Resolve exports. I=E2=80=99ve found= exporting HQX 10 bit instead solves these issues.=C2=A0
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:59 = PM Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@= media-motion.tv> wrote:
Robert,

Ok, so I was right the f= irst time. :)=C2=A0 I should just start rendering using DNxHR.
I am usually rendering from either AE or Premiere.
<= br>
Funny thing is, as many times as people say AE is not an edit= or (which it is not), I often find myself doing anything 2 minutes or less = or so right in AE anyway.

E= ric

On Mon, = Oct 22, 2018 at 3:54 PM Robert Kjettrup <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
DNxHD should probably be= considered a legacy codec by now.=C2=A0
if you work with Avid faciliti= es it might be an issue if they are on an older Avid MC that doesnt support= DNxHR yet, and some Avids are kept at very old versions for very long.=C2= =A0
But it should normally be a non-issue and just use DNxHR, its= also way easier to figure out what setting to use since Avid reduce it as = Prores to a few flavors and not keep the framerate and dimensions.
most of the flavour are 8bit though (another Avid legacy issue) so make s= ure to use the HQX or 444 versions that are 10 or 12bit


Den man. 22. okt. 20= 18 kl. 21.41 skrev Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
if you need to deliver non-HD res images, yes. also better alpha = ch on some versions of it

S

On Oct 22, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv<= /a>> wrote:

Thanks.

Guess I simply haven't rendered usin= g it.=C2=A0 Will use it now.=C2=A0 I presume this should be used over DNxHD= ?

Eric

DNxHR is built into adobe = apps, resolve / fusion. QT32 is dead.

S

On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk &= lt;AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv> wrote:

Do you have a download= link for this DNxHR?=C2=A0 I have been using DNxHD for several years.



Thanks
Eric

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:33 PM Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote= :
DNxHD is limited to fixed HD res size image= s. feed it non HD size frames and they are scaled to fit the full raster. r= eally ugly and stupid but that happens because it was a hardware based code= c.=E2=80=99

DNxHR works with any res.

they work fine on win, OS X. no playback problems, its basically avi= ds ver of prores with similar data rates and generational performance.=C2= =A0

I=E2=80=99ve used it also as a record format o= n atomos products with excellent results and moved media between PP / AE / = Resolve with out concern or thought.

S
<= br>

>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 7:08 AM Anders Sundstedt <AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:
> Hi,
>
> I work entirely on PC.
>
> If I received QuickTime ProRes 4444 mov files, since Adobe Media Encod= er does not export to ProRes 4444 at least not in Windows/PC, what is a for= mat of equal quality and smaller that uncompressed, that (any) Mac person/e= ditor would be able to accept as a delivery format?
>
> I tried for example GoPro CineForm but doesn't open in QuickTime o= n their Mac.
>
> I asked them what they can accept but in the meantime, if you are a Ma= c editor what would be acceptable?
>
> (uncompressed MOV QuickTime are huge so not good)
>
> Cheers
>
> Anders


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