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| I'm not surprised network drive footage causes problems. Full disclosure, I spent 1991-2000 as an IT infrastructure engineer for media publishing company. Repeat after me: "Never work directly off a network drive, never work directly off a network drive, never work off network storage of any kind, never work off a network drive" It's simply physics - dollar for dollar, a network drive is going to have more latency than local, more risk of failure/traffic/connection loss. Yes, a 10G ethernet connection in theory is much faster than 5400RPM drive, but at 10X the cost. A RAID zero PCIx SSD will eat at 10G for lunch and cost the same or less per TB. The proper way to us a network is to mirror/sync/backup depending on workflow needs. e.g. a 5 person team is working individual projects based off shared footage. Shared footage is synced or mirrored to local storage, generally overnight although other scenarios are possible. As new footage is available or footage changes, local updates are fast (because network is NOT being use for direct access which bogs down a network with repeated, constant file access from users working directly), user experience is much faster and stable as dollar for dollar, the fastest storages is ALWAYS local. This is why we have iPhone SuperMAXUltraXXX soon to be with terabytes of local storage despite the massive capabilities of the "cloud" It's physics and the laws of physics don't change. Why would you not design your network using the same design as the modern internet has evolved? The dumb terminal has never, never, never, never worked. And semi-dumb terminals with apps local, data storage network are still slow (the slow cash register or slow customer service rep ("just wait, I'm still pulling up your account). If you have control of your network design, change it now. You're wasting time and money and increasing your business risk. If you don't, give your IT folks my name and number and I will dust off my IT infrastructure and set them on the path to righteousness. Stephen -----Original Message----- From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:22 AM To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv> Subject: Re: [AE] Constant hangs when switching between apps Yes, me too on Mac & Windows. This is a big part of the “hang” problem we all have - when After Effects hangs, it totally locks the interface to the foreground so you can’t do anything else. I’ve always found the interface/windows to be a bit iffy, and it’s a good example of something that frustrates me on a daily basis yet I’ve never done anything about. Some script windows pop up behind the main window, so you can’t see them unless you drag the whole panel down, other times the AE windows “hog” the foreground just as you describe. Often when I’m switching between apps, the entire system will freeze for a few seconds and then all of the various interfaces panels will flicker and flash like crazy for a second as everything comes back into focus. It’s just something I’ve put up with for years. We haven’t moved to CC 2019 yet, so I’m going to test that out and see if it’s any better. Once I’m working on the test release I’ll try to document the problems more. -Chris (BTW, the problems I’ve been having are to do with footage that’s on a network drive. Projects with all local assets are fine. This is both the reason why everyone just blames the server, and possibly why it’s not an issue for 100% of AE users. I don’t know how many AE users work off networked drives and shared storage but I’d guess the number is increasing) > On 13 Nov 2018, at 1:11 am, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: > > I don’t know if this is related on Mac, but I occasionally run into occurrences where I can’t switch to Pr from Ae (or vice versa) without hiding Ae, and then clicking on the Pr workspace. Since this behavior comes and goes, I chalk it up to some interaction with the OS. It’s happened on and off over years, so that includes various Adobe revs and OSX versions. > > And a thing I’m starting to HATE about Ae and Pr is how they switch themselves to the foreground app when they “want to.” A prime example is launching one of them, and then working on an email, and in the middle of writing something, the open screen appears on Ae and kills my creative writing mojo. Another is that I’ll be working in Pr and the Ae Auto-Save thermometer appears. Or, that I’ll be exporting in Pr, and I can’t get the progress bar to go to the background when I switch to a browser or email app. > > I use Render Garden. It gives us the option of having a Render Complete message take the foreground. Unless we choose it, it minds its own business. I like that. Be like that, Adobe. > > > >> On Nov 12, 2018, at 6:16 AM, Chris Zwar <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I’ve decided to be much more pro-active about reporting bugs and problems with AE. However when I have a problem, part of me is always wondering if it’s like that for everyone else too… >> >> The biggest problem in our office - this affects everyone using AE - is the way After Effects briefly hangs when we switch between apps and then back again. I’ve mentioned this before on here but I haven’t really followed it up. But it's always there, always a problem, and it affects me and everyone I work with. We are working on Windows machines (currently CC 2018) and just changing to another app and then back again always causes a brief hang. Always. Even something like using the calculator or checking emails is a problem. >> >> I had reported this with CC 2017 (it was much, much more severe) and deduced that it was caused by the Importer JPEG module, and I could “solve” the problem by manually specifying the older JPEG importer. The problem with Importer JPEGs seemed to be fixed in CC 2018, however now we have hangs for everything. MP4s are especially bad. >> >> It’s been like this for years, in some form or another, and generally everyone blames the server. But it isn’t the server, it’s something unique to After Effects and it’s slowly driving us all insane. >> >> FWIW we have tried all the preference options - turning off automatic footage reloading, missing frame warnings and verify files etc etc. It’s not those options. >> >> Is anyone else experiencing these constant mini-hangs every time you switch to another app and back again? >> >> >> -Chris >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to <ae-list-off@media-motion.tv> |
