From: "Steve Oakley" Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 7190790 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 21:54:45 +0100 Received: from [10.1.1.99] ([71.87.57.30]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus003 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MUFwy-1fxI4R31pS-00Qzxw for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 22:07:29 +0100 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_04CFEB37-155D-4533-9DF9-1AC5DA8AA5EE" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Constant hangs when switching between apps Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:07:28 -0600 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <78DCF835-93B3-43B5-96F3-C5E476532FFC@practicalillusions.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YHepBdgi0dqfulpWnDObqG5ER2Vi1lNFMzxSrsR6fwOSussd3GH E0c6GUUuDzbQ5jVoI6ZMqWI5+veOL6K7CbM3uLUN324aFRbtYm0WPrULwd3rc223EaK2xn4 YZ1EuUzqUJugX/szDnLRf/udRdT2oA+gLV5GnSyLxMfm5CzbJxwtR+sMWrKfX9dU2/Ty4ZD jypr9U8xK8cZKxTELYIhg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:5zlwphlK3SU=:BFa5EeVtwERCdrZ/IyE7Cv r4NhV0syMubj1b635VbbxuuOYnKsTOEGt5B5YSKheUXw0/UIrFXHTcvoVPyYp3rm0yrghOytN ictbZKzfPsSiYXc7hJfKDDibgo2OIBGc7j4TVEX/dwVA4CImCmKULa+8dP+6MRD0J5YEmx5PH i6cjAA2zIaNoJo8MAPYC2Z/zwWROT+/h1xjR4hjT8IM1+SPPaAQjJ2ibIuSyMtdWlKQMsudMG OfFTzpJb6tpz4AMDauycd52QKHJ1bDcZFpYUijwXbNoWI/8bDPneU6S7hVb+feuSwQW4gljJo TVWBg5Wq84kIgrcIzXgYFlc6RKTdK5OGELz82XoaJoI4rInvcyUJHwpfYeqryDzrhHdQLzBLe rUAgXU8X8Mylc1WwcYbjhVaXorAosCImkF8FUOLeRKzhN+W4Q0AxLMp10BMKWyjNE88aWCSYs PqkJP4OockL99ZJzIePotdBNlYlR9QCi8LHJKK+XkYaZ/TQA40+Uq1g3EzMhKOvLTxD/rLEY1 HSfMgHpbJnCrV8hmaM5XN5iUaZrJ4lMh4cdOwi5cvXbDMQ8N/ycLApRwUKeliDP2GuBNry7VL jC4U97v2U548N7p6281I9hfxWTDmFjaYTEUvk/p2sFchOLa7qTp7qneFMjOFjVg66cCn+KEPA Lbz7c8huUhG3D3r3f9iVgG36SETu268kJqYgz+fnW1QZhSNWF/uslJ6vCzAUzEiDWfDRolqwT BrwwXTdEbjLiQt4ojKJ2044tJ1+42qAt+mpOerseRfENCG+08S5o8kC+AZTZz0B4vLedvzeTP czGyzhLd27y/fQYHI5nTTwXHE/Gctw1o5W210D1u0jSIF5ude4= --Apple-Mail=_04CFEB37-155D-4533-9DF9-1AC5DA8AA5EE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 apple has been working on bringing SMB up to speed literally. They are = officially killing off AFS :(. I have machines connecting via SMB and = didn=E2=80=99t even notice. 10.13+ shows a tendency to try to connect = via SMB first, then fall back to AFS if it must.=20 S > On Nov 14, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Brendan Bolles = wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Nov 14, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: >>=20 >> Yeah, on the biggest projects for the film (the ones that took 2 days = to open) we disable the prefs in AE to check any footage at all for = changes. Turn that off if you have files on network or much better yet, = get all that stuff local. >=20 >=20 > Making everything local is not always logical/practical. We're working = off a 77 TB server with 30 machines. Should we get each machine its own = 70 TB array? >=20 > While this AE hang thing is annoying and should be addressed, my guess = is trying to synch up local storage on a whole bunch of machines would = be even more annoying. >=20 > That said, with our NFS network setup the Macs cruise along but the = Windows machines are much slower to access files on the network. We = pretty much only use AE on Mac for this reason. Switching to SMB might = fix Windows, but then maybe the Macs will be slow? We're contemplating = it. >=20 >=20 > Brendan >=20 --Apple-Mail=_04CFEB37-155D-4533-9DF9-1AC5DA8AA5EE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 apple= has been working on bringing SMB up to speed literally. They are = officially killing off AFS :(. I have machines connecting via SMB and = didn=E2=80=99t even notice. 10.13+ shows a tendency to try to connect = via SMB first, then fall back to AFS if it must.

S

On Nov = 14, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Brendan Bolles <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

On Nov = 14, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Yeah, on the biggest projects for the = film (the ones that took 2 days to open) we disable the prefs in AE to = check any footage at all for changes. Turn that off if you have files on = network or much better yet, get all that stuff = local.

Making everything local is not always = logical/practical. We're working off a 77 TB server with 30 machines. = Should we get each machine its own 70 TB array?

While this AE hang thing is annoying = and should be addressed, my guess is trying to synch up local storage on = a whole bunch of machines would be even more annoying.

That said, with our NFS = network setup the Macs cruise along but the Windows machines are much = slower to access files on the network. We pretty much only use AE on Mac = for this reason. Switching to SMB might fix Windows, but then maybe the = Macs will be slow? We're contemplating it.

Brendan

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