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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Then every VFX studio I've worked at, between 4 and 400 employees, is doi= ng it wrong apparently. Yeah, small shop IT is almost always done wrong (I quit film school in 1991= , worked as a small biz IT wonk until 96, then big company IT as infrastruc= ture guy full-time 96-2000 and part-time until 2005 as I got back into film= making). But worked on and/or designed hundreds of small shop setups and ha= lf a dozen big shop (200+) networks. Again, this is why phones will soon have 1TB+ of local storage despite 5G's= arrival - it's physic and economics. But most small shops don't have the e= xpertise, resources or time to get it right, so it's the expedient. The work directly off server model was designed when you had desktops often= saving word processing and spreadsheet files directly on floppy drives, so= moving to shared storage was about the same speed, sometimes faster. But t= he GUI world, images and now video has pushed the physics of it all to the = forefront. From: After Effects Mail List Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 2:26 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Constant hangs when switching between apps On Nov 14, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: Workstations working directly off network storage is slower, more expensive= , more prone to failure and a huge waste of time and money. Then every VFX studio I've worked at, between 4 and 400 employees, is doing= it wrong apparently. --_000_BYAPR06MB4469CF8453F2CC2791D8DC9990DC0BYAPR06MB4469namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Then every VFX studio I've worked at, between 4= and 400 employees, is doing it wrong apparently.

 

Yeah, small shop IT is almost always done wrong (I q= uit film school in 1991, worked as a small biz IT wonk until 96, then big c= ompany IT as infrastructure guy full-time 96-2000 and part-time until 2005 = as I got back into filmmaking). But worked on and/or designed hundreds of small shop setups and half a dozen b= ig shop (200+) networks.


Again, this is why phones will soon have 1TB+ of local storage despite = 5G’s arrival – it’s physic and economics. But most small = shops don’t have the expertise, resources or time to get it right, so= it’s the expedient.

 

The work directly off server model was designed when= you had desktops often saving word processing and spreadsheet files direct= ly on floppy drives, so moving to shared storage was about the same speed, = sometimes faster. But the GUI world, images and now video has pushed the physics of it all to the forefront.

 

 

From: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 2:26 AM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] Constant hangs when switching between apps

 

 

On Nov 14, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <= ;AE-List@media-motion.tv>= wrote:

 

Workstations working directly off network storage is= slower, more expensive, more prone to failure and a huge waste of time and= money.

 

 

Then every VFX studio I've worked at, between 4 and = 400 employees, is doing it wrong apparently.

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