From: "Jim Curtis" Received: from sonic302-28.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.137.68.154] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTP id 7199491 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 19:42:56 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s2048; t=1543604173; bh=IUmRMo6XT/YLgkQosllDZGijz87f4XUnyadS2d1xkLg=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:To:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=Cjex1X7xAogqLjKXUNtnB2bTdSuRehuApEBsr03UkL58aPHpnOXjL5ELi4rN5Uum9HxL3VUhdtSSkoyGLX/Hj6QuC2XL5YWBH7DotK6uA/jYCMeXdFjMSAzCJqfzqF/PtTo+82M5wiRJgkCoV/udHQORxZXCySSZgAoWs7/R2xhAhbtfBIOJFDHdLxaxQOCXA8Dic2u1Lacg9ml96QcL2KYuMIPZUUhV9t1DRUsPS4caa81YKDkxBzStfK/4mOrHfxzowSDK9lUMQ3Z3gdbeWjv+NLcDVyr+ws/RYX2cDZxnYzKLZL6rNCkF7O6cKMTgEPCMbIXR+P7DHAMoFgFoMw== X-YMail-OSG: z6aPU.sVM1l52g0tv_Dc7P2PXBe8XvVTAlr6fwlJf8IBIMp_uhfWwAabiTvIZo0 ik5MIp4f0HVSY8hYJ.kRXmE2fZTx.WCQgFalm2VvEj_wJJLTEcrkLVkfi3UvXmpZiiSkNFMEeEVf NIGxVGufn61jR6X9LD8BMLizJ1uAc0cWnqp5l2AxeDtNxUtp0N0xdH8ta4BPfDXcAASR9U2Z041z YWJsju5Wj9gEoE1Pego40syMVyfxHmkrURkKofoFGTWX2dZjA0znWDwbvxAz94Ub7ly1upK19UKx YFaZX6qtzZY34SYkXt8QqDE9UlJbcrMmcvT.AzFqNAaWPzsG0Kj0XuaHhrmXz8UtKOsLYC.n0QlW gknzFxrZkAZ128iB2H.moodgH2A0StaeWAw1DfbozECXSmCJWcNRVZLpO2pw1vh8hgGa0CzL3p2Z _aIb3eTDCjbU2SR.9bnae5bUpYcBgV0R5pM9E56jmLuaMVOIy45jMaZQkWEnX.OxZkTX90cUPiWe .NF5Nt3.CP_yhi69RhE0Q0.68ucAfnood73Jj7uXELElDRnmDJcsvgIvYVezZ6ttW4yi09Un7XUL gFtaMreUCpFJbiQ0o23K51gGyl.cTyor7vjKTQSdOaAyQ0.5ujTv1GUObl.nkX0zU8BiWSne_RRO 4DT0KvJDTVGx1koIthZsb7MaA49gPPxgTr.KT5IkTAKR3imANYDDLD45ymnxjM1tNW2W_wtVJ7qW BVM.datn2wHcG_HrlNSutijRKQKDFKSXrolsFlm_M2dGHHdBTaduYkLvfMHdJsjkcqnGbAP6UdbA 9Sh1HndZ70DgHM9MkcxWFC.nNXP39Tx.7wox0io_rs_LbFq4Wtui0Fn0.RrSDXGUBV8oSAZOGGt3 k6D2sYwhghozbrpXFm2ckIUcwx.AtrHwksVVl4fBqPQncPPGRR68X.nvCKc01XpweRSWz7bnChVG 5bLELXbgC4C23Lkjz7IcpM.9TJIp_.WdS4urpjMbmY3fpzUoAEB.PAixr9QLYMtGuYjm558Jy9zz DRaimgjpENqg8iQfjR86E.vp21lxFUV4uqxFumyXSIstWceh7oHPkkYonoI3rDW9hBDyXSalD2yh opC1je7Dk Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 18:56:13 +0000 Received: from 104-48-143-159.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net (EHLO mac-pro.attlocal.net) ([104.48.143.159]) by smtp403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 315d436237bed4b4e69584ecb2b6f49b for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 18:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_946F98CD-2C0C-426F-A9CA-D401952AD698" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [AE] reluctant to commit to CC 2019 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 12:56:09 -0600 References: To: After Effects List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) --Apple-Mail=_946F98CD-2C0C-426F-A9CA-D401952AD698 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks a bunch for that link, Danny. I do recall there was a way to open older Pr projects in an earlier = version back in the CS days by using a text editor to change some header = data, but then I heard it couldn=E2=80=99t be done after a while. I just tried it on a CC 19 project and most everything came into CC18 = fine. Just a few DL clips from Ae are off-line, but all my color work = and mask tracking was converted accurately. Even a third-party audio = plug with settings came over. Sweet!=20 > On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:38 AM, rendernyc = wrote: >=20 > theres a way to go in to the pr project file in a text editor and set = it so you can open it in an older version... BUT, id you dont mind = uploading your file this site will do ti for you >=20 > http://www.joshcluderay.com/downgrade-premiere-project-converter/ = >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:28 AM Jim Curtis > wrote: > Sorry for the long post. If you=E2=80=99re busy, just ignore this. = Part of it is griping. >=20 > I wonder how many others here are in the same boat. =20 >=20 > My favorite feature of Ae CC 2019, and the ONLY new feature that = interests me is the Mocha Plug-in. I=E2=80=99ve been using Ae 2019 just = for that one feature, but doing everything else in CC 2018. Pr has one = new feature only I=E2=80=99m interested in, and that=E2=80=99s the = enhanced Lumetri Color effect. The enhanced Puppet Tool may come in = handy at some point. Otherwise, meh. >=20 > I use Pr as much as Ae. If I want to use Dynamic Link, I have to use = the same versions. IOW, I can=E2=80=99t use Ae 2018 with Pr 2019, and = expect DL to work. I can=E2=80=99t even copy clips in Pr and paste them = in Ae if the versions don=E2=80=99t match. >=20 > I made a mistake by testing Pr 2019 for one =E2=80=9Csmall=E2=80=9D = project for one client for whom I=E2=80=99d done about ten videos in Pr = 2018. It worked OK, but there are still some bugs that make me = reluctant to commit to all of CC 2019. Honestly, I can=E2=80=99t = remember what they were other than Pr taking an extremely long time to = launch before getting to the Open dialog. >=20 > So, I got a new project that requires me to use footage from my = previous ten projects. I started it in Pr 2018. Everything was fine = except when I needed to access footage in that Pr 2019 project. Not a = show stopper. I just had to launch the Pr 2019 project, and do an XML = export of my master Sequence and b-roll and interview select Sequences, = and then import that into Pr 2018, losing all the animated masking I did = in Pr 2019 (quite a bit). I was pleased to see some of my Lumetri Color = effects were retained. =20 >=20 > I wish Adobe would figure out how to Save As... a previous version in = Pr as they have for Ae, or allow us to import Sequences from a later = version of Pr, or use Dynamic Link between different versions. Alas. >=20 > Anyway=E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99m posting to ask if anybody else has = committed to CC 2019 and having good success with both Pr and Ae. If = you=E2=80=99re experiencing issues, what are they? Are there = workarounds? =20 >=20 > My biggest fear is encountering a job-killing bug that will inhibit = timely delivery of a paying project (see link below).=20 >=20 > I=E2=80=99m on Mac High Sierra with a Nvidia Titan GPU. >=20 > Jim C. >=20 >=20 > Posts like this aren=E2=80=99t encouraging: >=20 > https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2556384 = >=20 >=20 > . >=20 >=20 > --=20 > danny princz >=20 > vimeo.com/rendernyc --Apple-Mail=_946F98CD-2C0C-426F-A9CA-D401952AD698 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks a bunch for that link, Danny.

I do recall there was a way to open = older Pr projects in an earlier version back in the CS days by using a = text editor to change some header data, but then I heard it couldn=E2=80=99= t be done after a while.

I just tried it on a CC 19 project and most everything came = into CC18 fine.  Just a few DL clips from Ae are off-line, but all = my color work and mask tracking was converted accurately.  Even a = third-party audio plug with settings came over.

Sweet! 




On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:38 AM, rendernyc = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

theres a way to go in to the pr = project file in a text editor and set it so you can open it in an older = version... BUT, id you dont mind uploading your file this site will do = ti for you

http://www.joshcluderay.com/downgrade-premiere-project-converte= r/



On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 = at 11:28 AM Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Sorry= for the long post.  If you=E2=80=99re busy, just ignore = this.  Part of it is griping.

I wonder = how many others here are in the same boat.  

My favorite feature of Ae CC 2019, = and the ONLY new feature that interests me is the Mocha Plug-in.  = I=E2=80=99ve been using Ae 2019 just for that one feature, but doing = everything else in CC 2018.  Pr has one new feature only I=E2=80=99m = interested in, and that=E2=80=99s the enhanced Lumetri Color = effect.  The enhanced Puppet Tool may come in handy at some = point.  Otherwise, meh.

I use Pr as much as Ae.  If I want to use Dynamic Link, = I have to use the same versions.  IOW, I can=E2=80=99t use Ae 2018 = with Pr 2019, and expect DL to work.  I can=E2=80=99t even copy = clips in Pr and paste them in Ae if the versions don=E2=80=99t = match.

I made = a mistake by testing Pr 2019 for one =E2=80=9Csmall=E2=80=9D project for = one client for whom I=E2=80=99d done about ten videos in Pr 2018.  = It worked OK, but there are still some bugs that make me reluctant to = commit to all of CC 2019.  Honestly, I can=E2=80=99t remember what = they were other than Pr taking an extremely long time to launch before = getting to the Open dialog.

So, I got a new project that requires me to use footage from = my previous ten projects.  I started it in Pr 2018.  = Everything was fine except when I needed to access footage in that Pr = 2019 project.  Not a show stopper.  I just had to launch the = Pr 2019 project, and do an XML export of my master Sequence and b-roll = and interview select Sequences, and then import that into Pr 2018, = losing all the animated masking I did in Pr 2019 (quite a bit).  I = was pleased to see some of my Lumetri Color effects were retained. =  

I wish = Adobe would figure out how to Save As... a previous version in Pr as = they have for Ae, or allow us to import Sequences from a later version = of Pr, or use Dynamic Link between different versions.  = Alas.

Anyway=E2=80= =A6 I=E2=80=99m posting to ask if anybody else has committed to CC 2019 = and having good success with both Pr and Ae.  If you=E2=80=99re = experiencing issues, what are they?  Are there workarounds? =  

My = biggest fear is encountering a job-killing bug that will inhibit timely = delivery of a paying project (see link below). 

I=E2=80=99m on Mac High = Sierra with a Nvidia Titan GPU.

Jim C.


Posts like = this aren=E2=80=99t encouraging:

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2556384


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